Team 16 Quang Tin

MACV Team 16 – Quang Tin

This Page is intended for the discussion of the Military Assistance Command Vietnam Team 16 located in Quang Tin.

63 thoughts on “Team 16 Quang Tin

  1. I was with MACV Team 15 at Hoi An. MACV Team 16 was at Tam Ky …I had a buddy there named Randy Asp during Fall 68 to Fall 69.

  2. Merry Christmas to all you former Team 16 members. I’m reminded of Christmas 1970. I was lucky enough not to be on an operation that day, so I was able to enjoy the conviviality in the little officers club at the Payne compound in Tam Ky. It was one of the few times that the door between the O club and the NCO club was opened so we could all mingle. But within a few days it was back to business and pretty soon I was back in the bush with the Ruff-Puffs. By the way, there seems to be some confusion about where Team 16 was located. Evidently whoever created the initial Team 16 entry on this site put down the location as Thang Binh. There was a District Team in Thang Binh, but Team 16 was the Province Team for Quang Tin Province and was headquartered in Tam Ky.

    • Hi Casey,
      Finished college and took commission in Navy. Spent 10 years in the SEAL Teams. Now I live in Florida with Peruvian beauty. I go to Chicago periodically if you are there. Otherwise, you’re always welcome here.
      Great to here from you.

      • No I dont live near Chicago anymore
        Finished college joined Federal government now retired rural Maryland with a 6ft blonde beauty from the south. If ever in DC let me know. Going to head to Florida soon to see you. My pal from grade school who is my attorney lives in Parish.

  3. Worked in S1 from Aug 69 to Aug 71. S1s were Stephen Morgan, Honeycut, Otis Ashley, George Ikeda and LT ? Sgts King, Mac…., Norris Claypool. Various clerks: Parker, Bass, and even Griemel before he/you went to S2.
    ..

        • By the way, Brian, I’ll be in the Cleveland area March 14-18. Busy schedule but maybe we can get together for breakfast sometime.

        • I just found this site. I worked as a fire support liaison and coordinated in Thang Binh quite a bit…and the entire Hiep Duc Valley, as well…but from LZ Baldy, Hoi An, down Hwy 1 and into Tam Ky…I visited with many of you off and on. Worked with Daffy Duc and RFs/PFs quite a bit. Was in country on attached duty in the area from Mother’s Day 1969 until 1 Mar 1971. I always appreciated the coordination I got from you all. Was known by Rusty, no rank worn.

          • I was attached to 196th Bde…and floated between 2/1, 3/21 and 4/31. When we moved from Baldy to Hawk Hill, replacing 1/1 Cav I took on even more responsibilities. I never got to know people personally…one of the problems I have with my service in VN…I was always attached. I’d walk with line companies, went on missions with RF/PFs on small patrols, no more than 6 men…walked in support of an ARVN engineer unit that was clearing and grading the road towards Hiep Duc Ville, through “Death Valley”…usually the only American with units. I did fly aerial observer in the 196th AO in a LOH with a very young warrant officer, although I wasn’t but two years older…I only visited Thang Binh on two occasions to coordinate combined force mission with RF/PFs…don’t remember who I visited with, don’t think we even had a beer. I do appreciate the intel and support I rec’d from you all…and the radio communications off and on. My memory is so bad, I can’t even remember specifics. I was contacted a few years ago by the Recon platoon leader who followed up with a letter, and his remembrance of the mission I supported in Kham Duc was different than mine…it did jog some thoughts, though…

            Again…I just wanted to reach out and thank you all for the support I rec’d even though you may not have thought much of it at the time.

            Rusty

      • I was on Hawk Hill a couple of times and made several trips up Highway 1, passing right by your place. Was your Senior District Advisor (the one with “problems”?) an LTC rather than a MAJ? I recall he and I being lunch guests with a local village when I was on Nui Loc Son. I made the mistake of eating a tiny red pepper in a bowl of rice – I huffed and puffed for quite a while, much to the amusement of the Vietnamese.

        • Oh yes! The LTC definitely had “problems”. It was resolved in a scene right out of M*A*S*H. I generally hung out with the locals who preferred eating rice and tuna fish. Nui Loc Son was a nice place when I was there. However, I heard it became quite hostile in ’72.

  4. I was 1LT with Team 16 in Quang Tin Province from August 70 to May 71. Started on MAT I-24 with Sergeants Pitts and Malotte and “Doc” Malave. We were initially stationed on Nui Loc Son, but a couple of weeks after my arrival our bunker burned down due to a malfunctioning propane freezer. We made it out with just the clothes on our backs. Had to go back to Saigon to get new rifles. After that I lived at the Payne compound in Tam Ky and went on operations all over the province with a variety of Ruff-Puff units and counterparts. The head of the MATs was Major Whitmeyer, one of the greatest burpers I’ve ever met. In February 1971 I was made Assistant S-3, working primarily in the TOC (our RTO was fellow Ohioan Spec 4 Moore, almost certainly the Jerry Moore who posts on this site.) The S-3 was MAJ Travis, who was replaced, I believe, by MAJ Sampson. There was also a CAPT McNulty, a nice guy who was a member of Mensa. I happened to be on the helicopter that picked up CAPT Kenney, a MAT leader who had been wounded by a booby trap. In the last couple of years I’ve been in communication with former 1LT George Ikeda, our Assistant S-1 and Casey Geasey, who also worked in S-1. I’ve also traded emails with Hal Meinheit, a State Department member of Team 16. He was there when I was, but we never met at the time. George, Casey and Hal have been kind enough to share a number of pictures and fill in blanks. Many more memories and faces, but a lot of the names have faded.

    • I was with the Phoenix Program with Team 16. Capt. John Poncina and then Major Markham were the Phoenix advisors. I remember Casey Gresey. We both got the Soldiers Medal while rescuing a bunch of Air Force guys that got screwed up in the ocean near our beach east of Tam Ky. Those were great times and Team 16 was a very cool place to visit Viet Nam. Craig Turner

  5. Stationed there in 1971 until march of 1972 assigned as a communication advisor ended up flying supplies to lz’s

  6. I was in Thang Binh, Quang Tin (now Quang Nam) Province in ’70-’71. Was originally slotted for Ly Tin District, but at the last moment was sent to Thang Binh.

    How do I say this nicely… the District Senior Advisor had “problems” (he was eventually removed), but the District Chief was pretty good!

    We were written up on the front page of the Washington Post in May 1971.

    I would be happy to communicate with you even if we never crossed paths.

    • I spent time on team16 November 70 -June 71 Tam Ky Then Phuoc Me(spelling)June till October 71.Mat team leader

  7. Wow. I just happened upon this site. I was assigned to MACV Advisory Team 16 and served with the Phoenix Advisor. What a hoot. Based in Tam Ky and operated around Quang Tin Province. I was there from January 1970 to March 1971. After college went back into the military as a Navy SEAL. Missed the buzz.

    • Craig…I was in Ly Tin as DIOCC coordinator and Team 16 team leader in 1970. Don’t remember our paths crossing. I rarely went to Tam Ky after serving in January 1970. If you told me the name of the Phoenix advisor in Tam Ky, I’d probably recognize it.

    • Arrived in Thang Binh in Oct 71 to serve as Maj Joe Arnold’s deputy district senior adviser. Joe was awarded the Silver Star for actions against the 31st NVA Regt prior to my arrival. The 5 man district team closed in Mar 72 and I took over from Maj Whitmeyer at Tam Ky as the province Sr RF/PF adviser and S-3 just in time for the NVA Easter offensive. We lost Hiep Duc and the western half of Thang Binh the first week but stopped them at Binh Dinh village west of Thang Binh on TL 534. LTC Wagner departed in July and was replaced by Howard Thomas (FSR). I left in Oct 72.

      • Glad to hear from you! Bing Dinh wasn’t that far away. There is a big memorial there now, commemorating something which I do not know. Nui Loc Son was quiet when I was there, but I heard it was bad afterwards. Whatever happened to MAJ Arnold and SVN LTC , the District Chief? LTC Wagner wrote a novel and became a Major General. Have you read the book: “Road of 10,000 Pains” It’s about the USMC along Route 534. Where are you and what are you up to?

        • Maj Arnold retired in 1982 as a LTC. Don’t know about the District Chief, he refused to go down the road with LTC Wagner and me to stop the NVA advance. Worked for MG Wagner again as the Professor of Military Science at Eastern Mich Univ from 88-93 before retiring from the Army. Moved to Acme Mich, just north of Traverse City, and taught chemistry and math at the local college for 19 years before really retiring. Haven’t read the book you referred to about the Marines.

          • Michael, We must have been in the same jeep when LTC Wagner had his conversation with the Province Chief. As I recall, he told LTC Wagner words to the effect “if you want to stop them then have at it. I’m out of here”. Not words a Province Senior Advisor (Wagner) wants to hear from his counterpart! My recollection is that we were parked on a rise on the road west of Tam Ky while LTC Wagner tried to convince the Province Chief to get off his hind-quarters. I was an FSR civilian advisor on Team 16, based in Tam Ky, from January to September 1972, and worked throughout Quang Tin Province on a variety of projects.

            • Since there were different Province Chiefs at different times, can anyone remember the name of the this Province Chief at the time of this incident?

                • Col. Tho was still the Province Chief in April 1972 when this happened. After LTC Wagner and I returned from halting the RFs and PFs just east of Binh Dinh , we met with him and asked that he counterattack the net day before they dug in. He listened but didn’t seem to be buying in. Much to our surprise, they ( the Ruff Puffs) executed the counterattack plan the next day flawlessly. They routed the NVA from Binh Dinh, who left 18 of their dead comrades bodies on the battlefield. He turned it into a huge success for the Provincial Forces.

            • Jack, good to hear from you. I thought I recognized your name. Looked at some old photos I have and found one of you with me and LTC Wagner at my birthday party/ Wagner’s farewell party at the Ranch House in Tam Ky in late June of 72.

  8. Jim, I worked for you in Korea. For the past 10+ years, I’ve been running Ops and your guidance has been implemented in many of my endeavors. Thank you for your leadership and service!
    V/R,
    Chris
    Always Out Front

  9. Request from James H. Cheatham, Jr.; formerly Captain with MACV team 16 Thang Binh District. PRU Advisor. Injured in mine explosion that damaged M113 track in late 1968 or
    early 1969. Trying to find records or determine the date. Operating with 1/1st Cavalry Regiment at the time.

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