Team 44 Gia Dinh

MACV Team 44 – Gia Dinh

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  1. I was there September 1971 to June 1972. Would enjoy hearing from anyone else there during that time.

    Returned to visit with my adult son in 2018. Sites much changed!

    • Duane, what job did you hold? i left Apr 71 and would like to know how things changed when to left in 72.

      where did you go on your return trip? what did your son think?

      Jerry Hughes
      Rurak Development Cade Advisor and AIK fund administrator May 69 to Apr 71

      • Duane,

        cannot spell Rural Development Cadre (also Chieu Hoi company advisor for a short time, may had been the last person in that slot).

        Jerry Hughes

      • Hi Jerry – not sure why this ended in my junk mail, but glad I found it. I was the S3 Advisor, doing short times in Binh Chanh District when Butch Boyette was on leave or R&R. Mr. Robert Walkinshaw was Senior Province Advisor. Maybe you remember him? How about Tom Newell? Sam (cant remember last name.
        Duane Myers (please reply there)

        • i was on a MAT in Binh Chanh in late ’68, early ’69. when i left Mr McKillop was PSA. John Forte was my boss, his boss was a retired US COL, a Filipino. Guest most peole i knew had left by the time you got there. I have terrible time with names. Bob Sibly was a TOC officer, Kurt (cannot recall lat name) in S2, Phil Hatcher with PSDF. i worked in a round 2-story building to the right as you came into the compound. actually move back to SaiGon in 1992 and lived there until 1996. married a Vietnamese and we have made many trips over. her family is in GoVap maybe 10 ninutes from old province HQ. great sharing info with you.

          • One clear memory I’ve had of Binh Chanh was of a tall gray tower along the road there. Maybe you remember it? I learned it was a container with dead fish – for ‘brewing’ nuc mam sauce (spelling?). You could smell it from a great distance. When I returned in 2018, looking for it, it was no longer there. However, the nuc mam plant/business was still there. The ‘brewing’ is now done by a more modern process, in metallic tanks. No aroma. Ha!

      • sorry, my return trip. Got great help from a VN travel agency based in Hanoi. Visited Saigon, Danang, My Lai, Duc Pho, Quang Ngai (from my first tour in 1967), Hoi An, Hanoi, Binh Chanh. Hardly recognized anything, any place. Tree and shrub growth, structural changes in buildings made me feel almost as if I was in a different country. Glad i took my son; good bonding experience.

      • Forgot to mention that when my son and I visited VN in 2018, during our last day or so we visited the compound that used to be the Province Headquarters for Gia Dinh Province, and as such, also the headquarters for Advisory Team 44. It was now some kind of government installation, heavily guarded, looked approximately the same as I recalled having last seen it in June 1972.

        • Seen your reply about returning is 2018 doesn’t sound like province Hqs change much if either of you got flight on Air American choppers from the roof at Prov Hqs in 69-70 my at team at the TOC set them up for you. Left OCT 70 and never look back!

          • did you handle the Vung Tau runs as well. did a couple flights to Rung Sat thing it was CanGioi? got to Provience HQ in May – Jun 1969, prior on MAT in Nha Be and Binh Chanh. do you recall Bob Shibley, he was in TOC starting in 1970 i believe.

      • Jerry:
        I remember you from my time at Team 44 from September 1969 to September 1970…I just found this blog adn a few names that I recall. You asked about Paul Schaberger. I know him from before I got in country and a few years thereafter…A good guy. I also remember Col. Herbert and Dave McKillop. I was Deputy Intel Advisor, aka Phoenix Program. I started at the Team House with the Pool, then went to the team house that was attacked on April 30, 1970. Got injured, went to Hospital in Saigon, near Ton San Nhut. Have stayed in touch with Steve Wilkerson who was in Hoc Man District; Steve is now in the Bay area.

        Would welcome any comments from folks who were on Team 44 where I was there. As others have mentioned, the memory fades and I remember faces better than names.

        • David, Thinking i mave had visited you at the 3rd Field Hospital. I was with Rural Development Cadre under John Forte and worked out of a “round” white building on the right as you came into the province compound. Live in Georgia. Went back to SaiGon in 1990, 1991 and move back in 1992 leaving in1996 with Bob Shibly who was int the TOC, same building as you.Great hearing from you and hope all is going well. You can contact me directly

        • I must have just missed you as I left the end of August 69. I was with S 5, 3rd Bde 82nd Abn at camp Red Ball in Go Vap. I remember the house with the pool. How could you forget the beautiful tiled pool.

          • did you work with Jerry Hore? he had a team that was close to S5 activities as the povince team had.

            that house and grounds was amazing to an infantryman who had spent the last year first as a platoon leader thn a MAT leader.
            then we hd to move out. not complaining about the house we moved into. sawit last time i was in SaiGon (2019) atleast half of it.

            • Jerry:
              Was the Team House that was bombed on April 30, 1970 still in existence (as of 2019)? It was so poorly constructed I didn’t think it would last beyond 2000!


  2. My name is Gary Opheim and I was an assistant team leader around Hoc Mon village from May 1970 until around March 1971

  3. Reported into Team 44 23 Sep 68. Caring my promotion orders to CPT. COL. Herbert pinned my bars on that afternoon. Was assigned to then Team S-4 office Maj Van(something) my memory is getting old. He was an infantry officer. I was the Sr. Advisor to the Administrative and Direct Support Logistic Company with additional duty as Assistant S-4. I work with the Maj in obtaining the Team for the HQ Team. Maj Van…. was replaced by Maj Rodrigues. He was my boss for the rest of my tour. We had the Helicopter pad right over the S-4 office. John Greenwood was one of my roommates in the Team House. He was from Denver and I tracked him down in ’73 on a visit there. He was out of the Army. I left country in August ’69 and headed to the Officer Advanced Course at Ft. Lee, VA. Col Herbert left a month or so before me but had a war trophy pistol that was not ready when he left so asked me to carry it out for him. We was going to the Pentagon. I carried it to Washington and met him at his home one weekend. Team 44 was my 2nd tour to Vietnam. I spent 12 years on active duty with assignments at Carson, Ft Lee, Hawaii (OIC Armed Forces Recreation Center Ft DeRussy and 25th S&T Bn), and Ft Gillum and Ft McPherson GA. In ’81 I took a job with the reserves in MT. Spent 23 years in Missoula. Spent 17 years in the reserves retiring as an LTC in ’94. I retired from the civilian side in ’04 and moved to Casa Grande, AZ.

    • I arrived to Advisory Team 44 on 24 Nov 68 and departed on 26 Nov 69. I was the NCOIC of the administrative section for our advisory team. I remember our helo pad on top of our building. MSG Fletcher was the senior enlisted officer at the time I arrived. My original OIC was Major Willis. COL Herbert was replaced by Charles Whitehouse (FSO). I remember John Paul Vann landing on our helo pad many times to visit Mr. Whitehouse. All of our landing on the helo pad were Air America helicopters.

  4. Advisory Team 44 Nha Be and Hoc Mon was my locations 1970 to 1971 . I was Radio operator. I was drafted, basic/+ Auxiliary training Fort Jackson to Camron Bey , to Nah Be to Hoc Mon.
    The only name of someone in country I remember was a Sgt. Reddic( military police) . We had a medic , light weapons team, a ” civilian team leader ” ( he never wore a uniform but was armed ) and 2 other uniformed personal ( they floated around interacting with the locals gathering Intel) . Both were ” pathfinders ” but one was Native American .
    I liked that we lived off the regular army base , had to do our own “scrounging ” for food , and lodging, living right in the villages. I would like to return those locatons to what became of those areas. A lot of personal had families there and in the states ( kids and wives ) . I was 19 / 20 years old never been outside the USA until then , seeing , smelling, tasting, feeling another world… it was great !

    • We had a sister unit in Hoc Mon and I had been there numerous times ’70-’72. Our team was located at Cau Xang/Chau Hiep about 13 klicks SE of Hoc Mon and was a 7-man Ground Surveillance Radar team attached to ARVN units. Yes, it was a decent assignment as we did have people messing with us. Hell most didn’t even know we existed. Lived off the local economy, met and became friends with the locals (I eventually married the Village Chief’s eldest daughter) and did most of my 3 tours there. Our unit was the 277th FA Det, part of 23rd Arty. Grp, II Field Force but we were OPCON to CMAC and our HQ was at Camp Le Van Duyen (CMD) near the Chi Hoa prison in Saigon. I don’t remember the name of the unit at Hoc Mon but it was about 4 klicks north of the market in Hoc Mon on TL15 just inside Gia Dinh Province boundary. It was 50 yards NE of the bridge that crossed over a substantial canal or river. We also had a sister unit (278th FA Det) at Cat Lai on the eastern side of Saigon. I’ve been back 4 times between 1989 – 2001 and hoping to go back with my grandsons this summer. Yes, it was a great experience for me also, the country life, the culture, the people, but then I wasn’t a grunt having to hump the paddies and mud days on end.

      • It was a little different in my time. We had a lot of activity during my tenure and the main thrust of the TET Offensive when right through our AO. I DON‘t regret my time there, I did spend a lot of time with the people and learned that you don‘t have to have a lot of money to be happy or giving. Eventhough I had to do so terrible things, I never hated the people. We were right down town Hoc Mon at the District Compound but live at the Black Dog Inn in the Arvn Engineer Compound off Hwy 1, in the direction of Cu Chi.

    • I was an advisor in Nha Be from July ,1970 to June 71. I was the assistant district advisor then MAT leader. Could it be possible that we served together? If so, I would be absolutely thrilled to hear from you. Please see my contact info below.

    • A fellow ex-MAT leader and OCS grad and I are returning to VN in June. This will be our first trip back since 1969. I was in various locations in Thu Duc district throughout that year; Paul Olsen’s team was in Song Be (NW of Saigon). He was wounded in a fight with an NVA main-force unit while I got out relatively unscathed. We’ll be in-country 10 days, starting off in Saigon and working our way up to Hue. Nha Be is on the itinerary, along with the port of Cat Lai which is close to one of my team locations (Phuoc Long). I know some of you have made the trip back and I assume you had the same mixed feeling we’re experiencing — looking forward to it though. My best to all you guys who served throughout Gia Dinh.

      • i was on MAT II-27 in Nha Be then Binh Chanh Oct 68 – Apr 69. followed by RD Cadre at Providence HQ.
        last time in Nha Be was 2012, all new world. Nha Be is now 2 district. northern end called District 7 and south Nha Be.

        have a great trip back. 10 day maybe a bit short on time.

        • Jerry : Thanks for the comment on my upcoming trip. We’re going to cover a lot of ground in 10 days, including a flight from Saigon to Hue and return. I might be pushing my luck if we were to stay in-country much longer than that as my health is not great. Anyway, looking forward to it and the memories (good and not so good) it will evoke. While in Saigon we’re going back to the roof bar at the Rex Hotel and drink a few toasts to all of us who served on Team 44. Last time there was 50 years ago.

        • Jerry, your name is familiar. I was the Assistant S-4 and Senior Advisor to the Administrative and Direct Support Logistic Company from Sep 68 to Aug 69. I was a CPT at the time. Worked with all 23 MAT and 7 Districts,

          • Kyle – not sure of date but i moves to TM 44 province team Mar – Apr 1969 first with the Chieu Hoi program then RD Cadre also handled AIK fund. Inf Cpt on Mat 27 prior in Nha Be and Binh Chanh. at HQ until Apr ’71. I recall a S4 Maj, a bit chubby, maybe Hispanic. I believe he was there the entire period i was. terrible with names.

            • The S-4 at the Province HQ was MAJ Rodrigues. He came in after MAJ Vanhorn. Did you live in the Officer Team House when assigned to the HQ? We had the swimming pool and had Saigon Golf Course near by. I hit country in 21 Sep 1968 and got to Team 44 on 23 Sep 68. I worked with MAJ Vanhorn in getting the lease for the Officer Team House. Enlisted had a hotel not to far from our house. Left in Late Aug 69 to go to Advanced Course.

              • yes, i lived in the team house with the great stairwell and magnificent bar. at the top pf the stairs on the right front. later we had to move relocating to Phu Nhuan (hopefully spelled correctly) not far down the road. my office was on the front of the compound on the right as you entered.lunched at the golf course on occasion.

                • Rough duty, guys: pools, big bars, etc. I had MAT III-60 in Thu Duc district from 2/69 to mid-October ’69. One of our locations was an old French villa with a swimming pool. Unfortunately, the water was so nasty that a dip in it would kill you. It was nice, however, to get into Saigon for a night of burgers and beer at the Rex now and then. Best to all you Team 44 alum. Guess we’re starting to thin out a bit.

                  • think some from ThuDuc made it into SaiGon more than one or two days! by chance do you recall Paul Sharberger DIOCC? was Maj. English there during your time?

                    • Col Herbert left about a month before me. I hand carried a pistol back for him which was not ready when he left. It had to be de-milled. He was going to Washington and I was going to Fort Lee, VA. Went up to DC with my wife one weekend and took the pistol to him. Had lunch with he and his wife at their home,

                    • Been watching the latest and saw Thu Duc (boy does that bring back memories). I was on Mat 60 (Asst Team Leader under Cpt Bruce Mallick) from June 1970 to late August 70. We were camped with a RF Battalian and advised the Battalian Commander and his companies. We were located a short distance from the Naval Base at Cat Lai.

                      Pat Maloney

                    • Jerry: I believe I replied to you personally rather than to all. I’m still trying to learn the name of the Thu Duc DSA who replaced MAJ Young. Was it English? There was also a very sharp CPT (S-3?) on the district senior staff during most of my tour in 1969 as MAT 60 team leader. There was also a 1LT S-2 who often had a small monkey on his shoulder. Anyone recall their names?

                      Jerry, Sharberger doesn’t sound familiar. What was his job? I don’t recognize the designation DIOCC . Is that Intelligence? Could he be the S-2 I described above?

                    • Steve

                      the only one i recall was Maj English, big man.

                      DIOCC was the district Phoenix office, intelligence garhering for all CORDS agencies. i moved from a MAT to province late May ’69. ________________________________

    • I was the TOC NCOIC for Gia Dinh 69-70. I had to baby sit 3 Capt assign as the TOC officers while their, Col Burley was the province SR Advisor, was also my Brigade Commander at Fort Dix, NJ before returning to Vietnam.

    • Greeting, again to the team 44 and others I trying to find out if Nha Be and Hoc Mon regions are where exposed to Agent Orange during my time In “Nam ” ” 70 to 71 ” . . Does anyone have knowledge to use during that time ?

      • I was the NCIC for the TOC for TM 44 at Province HQ from Aug 1969 until Sept 1970, If they was spraying of Orange in our AO we was not informed, but that don’t mean a lot of was going on then!! I might have met you or at least talk to you on the radio, might have sent you a copper from time to time we control two for our team one military and one Air America , gave a lot of our enlisted Team Members day trips to Vung Tau for a day on the beach, when I could.

  5. I just came across the Team 44 website while googling general info for MAT teams. Quit a nice surprise to see so many Gia Dinh alumni on one site. I served briefly as MAT III-60 XO under 1LT Ryan Moran in January ’69, then was designated team leader upon Moran’s assignment to West Point as an instructor. I remained with the team in Thu Duc district until medivaced to Japan in November ’69. My XO was Lt. Sam Miller, heavy weapons/light weapons NCOs Harris (a great scrounger) and Mills (nicknamed Pappy). Forgot my first medic’s name but his replacement was named Holiday – Doc Holiday. All good men, although Holiday didn’t have much use for me. DSAs while I was there were both majors, the second one always in civilian clothes with a big revolver on his hip. No one knew who he really worked for. Anyway, a very capable district HQ team that I didn’t interact with that often as my team was fairly remote. We did have a couple of team leader’s meetings in a local bordello near HQ, with food and drink only.

    BTW, my close friend from OCS, Paul Olsen, commanded a MAT north of Saigon at the same time I was in Thu Duc. Anybody from his team posting on this site? My best regards to all of you. Happy holidays.

    Steve Murray

    • Steve: I was Assistant Team leader in Thu Duc at Mat 60 from May 70 to August 70 under Captain Bruce Mallick. We were located with an RF Battalian Headquarters. We were about a mile from the Cat Lai Navy Base. After then I was all over the province.

      • Pat: Nice hearing from you. My memory is fuzzy but my last location with the team was with a RF battalion commanded by a somewhat overage major. Can’t recall where we were in relation to Cat Lai but we were involved in riverine ops with the navy out of a small nearby river port.

    • Do not recall that name. Ed Johnson S1 Team 44. Anthony if you read this e-mail me at: or any one else from Team 44, have some photographs of awards formation that some of you may have been present during the time period June 71-Dec 72. E-mailed them to Charlie Reed, but no responce

  6. Gary: Good to hear from you and hope you’re well. We did go through DSA’s pretty quickly, not so? I suspect you’re the guy who arranged for my dustoff when I developed a kidney stone.

    One of the things I didn’t take away from Binh Chanh was photographs – I had some, but they were stolen by our “allies.” Don’t know why they’d want something like that. If you have any you’d like to share, I’d be most grateful. Best wishes, Tony

  7. Charlie:

    I’m embarrassed to say I don’t remember this handover. I left Binh Chanh in the Fall of ’70 and went to Gia Dinh on Mr. McKillop’s staff, where I remained until DEROS in mid-May 1971.

    Any PIX you have would be very much appreciated.


  8. Jim,

    been some 5 years since i have been to the old team house; will be trying to find it again Jan 2017.

    last time i was there it was a HQ for some Vietnamese company.

    most of the street names have changed; today. go out Hai Ba Trung, name changes to Phan Ding Phung, go over railroad track, name becomes Nguyen Kiem and the house would be on the right hand side a little way pass the tracks.

    not sure it is still there as land in around the air port is very valuable.

    try google map, satellite view

    good luck

  9. Charlie,

    do not recall any US units in Binh Chanh, maybe some signal people up close to Cho Lon; MAT not far from there; thinking Highway 1 thru Cho Lon within a few miles out take a right and head toward Cambodia to edge of district.

    • I have vague recollections of the MACV Gia Dinh hq. A beautiful old building with a fabulous swimming pool. It was not far from Camp Red Ball the 3/82nd Abn forward base wher I was part of S 5. Can anyone fill me in on where it was, I’ll be in Saigon in March. Thanks

    • There was at least one US unit still out there there until Feb ’72. I was with the 277th Field Artillery Detachment at Cau Xang which was just north and west of Binh Chanh. We were a 7-man team running a Target Acquisition radar. We were located about 13 miles west of Cho Lon /Phu Lam on QL-10 just east of Duc Hoa.

    • Jerry….I shipped out may 71, was wounded in February 71 ambush, flew 274 combat hours on air mobiles and nighthawks. My mat was 38, turned hours to Gia Dinh hq never got air medal orders.

      • No,but English and I .played pro fb before, he was in Baltimore and me in chicago. We were in fire fight at the Arvin ocs school. The picture in the web sight is my hq at the old school near vc island.

            • Greg — first i have heard about this; i was at Gia Dinh from late ’68 until Apr ’71; save a lot of people pass thru, remember faces not many names! MAT 27 (Nha Be, Binh Chanh) for the first 6months are so.

          • My team was right outside the OCS facility. My Interpreter left me after a month to attend the school. I can’t remember team number.

  10. I have several on my hard drive and actually what used to be Picasa (Love these surprises when things change.). Most of the shots O have are from Rach Gia when they had the Sea Bee project there and thy repelled a VC overrun. How do you post pictures here?

  11. Wife of deceased SSG Charles (Charlie/Chuck/Super P.) Joseph. Prusik seeking any stories or leads or information about his service in Team 44. This would have been approximately 1969. According to the notes I found he was also in: MACV Delta; MATT Adv Team #55 at Rach Gia; then Military Advisory Team #87. During 1969 he told me he was a “STRAK Man” in 1969 (and taught quick fire with rifles), which I cannot locate on any abbreviation site. In 1970 he was on “recon” but did not get to tell me where, but that was when he was serving his second term 1970/1971 at Rach Gia again. I believe it was during this time that they were in Cambodia under heavy fire by a machine gun nest and lost many man until he lost it stepped out into the machine gunner’s range of fire and blasted them away. The Reg Forces/Rough Puffs called him “Crazy White Man from then on. If it helps he was also at Tet Offensive 2/19/68. There are some fuzzy areas between 1961-1966 I am trying to piece together. Any help appreciated. Thanks!

  12. Tony when did you depart BC? Do you remember the name of the NCO there when you left? We’re currently at Padre Island until March 4. Once I get home I’ll look for names and pictures or you. My first VN tour was as a Battion SA with team 57 in Tra Vinh in ’67 and I get names and times mixed up. If you have FaceBook you can see some of my VN photos – not many. I’m just wondering if I was your BC replacement? I got there in mid Jan ’72. I remember the house girl was Han(sp)? Good to meet you. Will have a couple of stories to share with you. Blessings Charlie

    • Charlie: I believe Sgt Henson was our Signal NCO and was from Florida. Was never able to contact him after I departed Vietnam. Sgt Green was Supply S4 and worked with a Major Ginsburg above Team 44 Hqs. LTC Dunlap went to Ft Hood. Keep him out of trouble a couple times when he had to much to drink down town. Was you there when they presented him with the Silver Star? That didn’t go over well with some of the officers from the Team..

      • Will reserve my comment at the time on the Silver Star winner, the one who was not willing to spend a night at BC. It’s so great to have made contact with you, have often searched for former advisors from both Gia Dinh, and my first assignment down in Tra Vinh, but never able to find anyone. Again, as soon as I get home I will take time to round up some information that will be familiar to you. Was so sorry to hear of LTC Chapman’s wife passing away from breast cancer. He was a class a gentleman and officer. My family lived at Clark AFB down the street from his family. Great people.

    • Charlie: I went thru some of my old military records and found a copy of Hqs Third Regional Assistance Command Organizational Chart that you may want a copy of. Any way it shows a LTC P. Reed as Sr Adv Team 49 Long Khanh, not sure if that is you. Also it shows LTC C. Chapman as Sr Adv Team 44? Have a photograph of Col Chapman, civilian and an officer and 2 photo’s of I believe of them boarding an Air America aircraft. I do not remember taking the photographs though. Plus a formation of some Team 44 personnel at Gia Dinh and some when I flew to Tay Ninh with Col King.Will send them to you if you would like to look at them. You mentioned a Major Meadows, I also remember him. He was an AGC branch retailed Infantry and was there for what he could get out of it. My memory goes back to Vietnam every now and then so will keep you posted..

      • Thanks Ed, yes I would love a copy of the picture. I was a Major at the time and not assigned as a PSA. Yes, my family and the Meadows’ family were long time friends. Ken made Colonel and retired in ’85 and moved to Gulfport, MS. They lost their home during the storm, only the foundation left; Inez died of a stroke a year later, and Ken passed from lung cancer a year after that. We visited them often in GP, and they came to Dallas in June 07 for our 50th wedding anniversary. I was assigned as DSA of Cang Long District while both Ken and LTC Chapman was there. Dunlap was the the APSA and Ken was a DSA. Both of their families lived at Clark AFB as did my family while we served in Gia Dinh Province. Do you remember a obese Major that died of a heart attach at the GD compound during his sleep? Have been trying to think of his name. Don’t know whether or not you were in country when my Binh Chanh District Chief lost his leg during an attack on the District compound in broad daylight. It was around July or August ’72. As you probably remember Binh Chanh was quite an unpopular location for the Province staff and I had very few visitors. I have one picture of LTC Chapman viewing the troops with myself and the DC I will send you if you can receive pictures at this email address. I have several other pictures that you might be interested in. I was a Battalion SA in Tra Vinh Province in 67-68 and at my age I get personnel and events confused at times, but always enjoy revisiting the pictures and hearing of the troops. Thanks, Charlie

      • Ed, didn’t you fill in for me at Binh Chan a couple of times that I went to Clark AFB to visit my family? Just thought of it. Just read where Dunlap won the Silver Star? What did he do to earn that. Never thought that he left the compound, except to visit the local watering hole:)) And, did you not play pro, or semi-pro football prior to the military? May be thinking of someone else. At 80 things have a way to get tangled up. Charlie

  13. I was E-5, Worked in TOC and Air Coordinator for team # 44 from 70-71. I flew mainly with Air America, doing various things. Very interesting job. Did a lot of coordinating with Army and Navy choppers from Nha Be point.

    • Don’t Martin I was stationed in Bing Chan from May 70 – May 71. I was the radio operator. Had three co’s while I was there. First was major Author he rotated shortly after I arrived. Next was Major Nelson he got his foot blown off and out he went . the next was major (Butch) Boyette. I coordinated dustoff and lightfire teams for a lot of fallen servicemen both american and Vietnamese. I will never forget the experience I had in that God forsaken place.I also remember Tony Ambrose we were together the whole time he was stationed in Binh Chan.also flew a few knighthawks with major Boiyette.

      • That must have been Maj. Warren Boyett. He will always be a hero in my book. In late Jan – early Feb 1972 the ARVN battalion we were attached to turn against our 7-man team, shooting up our compound and were planning to set our facility on fire after dark. Several hours after the incident started several officers headed by a Major from our HQ at CMD (CMAT) flew out to our camp. Once they realized the nature of the situation, the major turned to his Lt. and said, “Well Lt. I guess we best be getting on our way”. I asked the major, “What about us sir?”. He replied, “We’ll see what we can do when we get back to Saigon”. And the bastard got on his chopper and flew off.

        I got on the radio and contacted Binh Chanh to appraise them of the situation. Within several minutes Major Boyett was on the radio asking for the details of what had happened. When I told him that the Village Chief had come down to warn us that the ARVN were planning to torch us that night, the Maj. said that he’d be there within the hour. About an hour later Major Warren Boyett arrived in his jeep with his driver and his bodyguard. He tore the ARVN Bn. Commander a “new one”. Disarmed most of his men, and put several of the ARVN senior officers in our camp as hostages in case anything happened. Then Maj. Boyett hunkered down with us for the night. That gentlemen is LEADERSHIP.

        To this day I wonder what would have happened to us if he had not stepped in. We never heard from that chicken-shit major from CMD ever again. Does anyone have any contact info for Major Warren Boyyett? If so please contact me at:

  14. I was the RTO for Team 100 and later Team 44 in Hoc Mon and served there from August 1966 thru October 1968. Made it thru the Tet Offensive and Counter Offensive in 1968.

  15. Jerry, Edward:

    I think COL Missildine was a fine officer and enjoyed working for him. Before coming to Gia Dinh I’d been the District Operations Advisor at Binh Chanh (starting mid-May 1970). After returning from RVN I went to medical school and stayed on active duty as a doc until 1989, retiring as an O-6. I was an O-3 during my entire time at Gia Dinh.

    • i got you; if i am not mistaken you were going to a PA medical or from PA, maybe both.

      sometime it is the little things that opens the memories.

      Col. Burley was an exceptional officer and it is difficult to compare.

  16. You are correct, his brother was a UH-1 pilot in the Army, 03, and died at Ft. Rucker after his 2nd tour, in the shower.
    Any info on Retired General Hughes, what was his rank during this period and position?
    Thanks for all the reply’s.

  17. More on COL Burley: I found on the internet a resolution from the Senate of the State of Texas congratulating one Roy W. Burley on 70 years of marriage (last month), and referencing a distinguished Army career which started in WWII. I’d bet it’s the same gentleman. Great man to work for.

    • COL Roy Burley was on his second tour when he was the Gia Dinh Prov Sr Advisor. He was from Texas and had been the Professor of Military Science at Prairie View A&M before going back to Vietnam.

      • Like to correct you on Col Burley assignment before returning to Veitnam as SR Advisor of Gia Dinh , he was my Brigade Comdr of the 1st AIT Brigade at Fort Dix ,NJ and pin my E-7 stripes on me and we met again in Vietnam and he offered me a job which I accepted on advisory TM 44 1969-70

        • I stand by my statement: I was on ADV TM 44, Gia Dinh, from May 1969 until Apr 1971 and MR. David McKillop was the senior advisor, Col Burley was the deputy senior advisor but the senior military man on the team. Col may had taken over sometime later in 1971. I was the RD Cadre and administered the AIK fund.

  18. LTC/COL Missildine was Deputy Province Senior Advisor, replacing COL Roy Burley, under PSA Ambassador David McKillop (who had been ambassador to Rwanda). Interesting anecdote about Missildine: Anton Myrer’s book “Once an Eagle” was popular then and many of us read it. On an occasion or two Missildine remarked that he saw himself as akin to the Sam Damon (mustang) character. Consensus seemed to be that he may have resembled the Massengale character a bit more. Good commander, though. Enjoyed working with him. I was Team 44 Executive Officer, OCT 70 – MAY 71. Anyone have any photos from that era?

    • all of us have our own memories, as i recall Missildine had a younger brother that had a heart attack during this time and many of us were waiting for the older Missildine to follow as he was high strung; Tony, I served on Adv Tm 44 from late ’68 until Apr ’71 including a time on a MAT in Binh Chanh then as Rural Development Cadre adviser at province , you and i must had crossed paths; how about a quick description of Maj (assuming rank) Ambrose as i am trying to get my brain to operate.Thanks

  19. LTC Miseldine was the Deputy when I reported in at Team 44 and LTC Dunlap replaced him. Can’t recall the pistol though. Miseldine was a great officer to work for. Often wondered what happened to him.

    • From info I gathered in his obituary, he retired a Full COL. In ’92 it also stated he was the Army liaison to the white house during JFK’s short presidency.
      On the bring back documents his in country address is ADV TM 49. A retired Major General Patrick Hughes (retired) list in his bio as being a member of TM 49 during this same period around ’71, he was probably a CPT or Majj then.

    • Edward, I was the sr adv at Binh Chan from Jan 72 til Jan 73. Do you remember me? How about Riggs and Bopp? Where did Dunlap go from there? I retired in 76 and spent 24 years in banking. Before leaving VN I spent my last few months as a member of the Four Party Joint Military Commission. May be wrong but you may have spent some time for me at Binh Chan while I visited my family in PI.

  20. Looking for Team 44 members 1970-1972 , have a pistol engraved to LTC Missildine TM 49, presented by TM 44, would like to know the significance of the pistol and if TM 49 was a Phoenix Team.

    • ADV TM 44 was the province advisory team for Gia Dinh Province which surrounded
      Sai Gon. LTC Missildine title was Deputy Province Adviser. The piston would only have significance to him or his family. It was be fairly routine for a Deputy Province Adviser to receive such an item from his “team”.

    • Served with Team 44. Worked in S-4 for Sgt Art Crimble, Also with SFC Ed Shelton. My replacement was Sam Butler and Mike Carnes. Stayed in Louisiana BEQ

  21. Was a member of Team 44 from June 1972 until December 1973 as S1, promoted to E9 and reassigned to CORDS. Not sure if there are very many of us left. Remember a Sgt Green who visited me Fayetteville, AR some years later; CWO Waters; SFC Hinson, Sgt Pryor; LTC Dunlap Deputy SAA and FSO 1 Mr. Walkenshaw SAA.

    • I worked with Sgt Greene at the Airborne School at Benning in 62 – 63. Was Riggs and Bopp there while your were? And, can’t remember a heavy Major that died while there of unknow cause, may have been a heart attack?

    • Ed, do you remember Major Ken Meadows a DSA. He was promoted to Col and passed away last year, living in Gulfport, MS.

    • Ed, was Sgt Hinson at Binh Chanh? At almost 80 I can’t place names with faces as I once could. There was a CPT Johnson, believe a football player, there while I was at BC. Did not get to visit GD Hqs often but remember Riggs laying in the sun the keep his sun tan. LOL

    • I preceded MSGT (then)Johnson as S1 of Advisory Team 44, later became XO, under Mr. Walkenshaw. Still stay in touch with John Powley, DSA Hoc Mon. Team 44 was a GREAT Team …. !! NIGHTHAWK missions over VC island ‘memorable’. *MSGT Edwards, CWO4 Waters, SFC Pryor ‘top shelf’/ squared away….. David McKillop and Mr. Walkenshaw estimable Statesmen.*

      • I remember Lt. Bailey. He knew Sgt Crimble. I have a photo of the 2 together. Remember team parties at Team house. They let us EM come and get drunk. I talked with Capt. Valr the night he was shot down

    • Hello Ed… I remember You quite well . I was a Young ‘shavetail’ (well, 1Lt when we met). We worked together about 5-6 mos. at Team 44 before I rotated back to “The World”…. With Your considerable experience and easy-going nature, YOU made the rest of my tour as Team 44’s XO very positive, ( despite weekly ‘Nighthawk’ missions flying at 300′ with my ARVN counterpart falling asleep) .
      *I live in Baltimore Md. and would like to give You a shout … please give me Your contact info. and I will do so-
      Best, bob bailey ( frmr 1 Lt., FA, Adv. Tm. 44)

      • I am still around at age 87 believe it or not. You had something to do with me getting promoted to Sgt Major and after all these years I would like to thank you. Thought of you off and on after all these years wondering what ever happened to you. When I left Vietnam I was assigned as a Army Advisor to a Army Reserve Civil Affairs Group in Fayetteville, Arkansas until I retired on 31 August 1978 with 30 years active military service. I then went to work for the state of Arkansas as a Local Veterans Employment Representative assisting veterans getting jobs and special projects thru the Department of Labor. Worked for the state for 31 years until I retired in August 2011. My routine now is having coffee every morning with my veteran buddies at Susie’s Cafe between 900-1000am, work out from 1030-1200pm, have lunch some place, go to Walmart or Home Depot and come home and set around the swimming pool relaxing and thinking about old times. Then I volunteer at the VA Medical Center in Fayetteville on Friday. On Saturday I get by 1940 Chevrolet Club Coupe Special Deluxe Street rod out and cruze abound town or take in a Car Show.

        • Sgt Maj.Johnson, my name is Jimmy Stephanoff. I was e-4 and worked in s-4 for Sgt Crimble from march-September 1971. When I returned home, after a month at home you sent me A plaque and army commendation medal. I had no idea I was going to receive either. I’ve always said that was one of the nicest things anyone ever did for me. It’s been 46 years and remember it well. It’s a wonderful feeling to know you are doing well. I stayed at Louisiana beq. I got intoxicated one night, drove keep to MACV HQ. I drove thru the gate, and MPs called you and you came and saved me. I live in Indianapolis Indiana, and retired after 35 years in bar ownership. I am 67 now.Do you recall many guys from 44? Thanks again for helping a 20 year old kid.God bless you

  22. Looking for anyone MAT Team 44, member of security force for U.S. Navy Seabee Team 20 kilometers SW of Rach Gia, other than, Capt. Morgan, who may recall Charles Joseph Prusik. This was prior to the time of the overrun Dec. 1970–or after.

  23. Chuck Sankey here. Adv Tm 44 all of 1969. First four months in Rung Sat (Can Gio), was wounded (two months in the hospitals in Vung Tau and Japan) and then spent the last six months at Tm HQ, Gia Dinh. First worked in TOC as watch officer; and, finally as coordinator of PSDF (NYTV) forces in Gia Dinh. Was career US Army officer.
    I would love to here from Dan (can’t remember last name) whom I met while on 44 staff. I remember he is from Texas and a community S of Dallas-Fort Worth.

      • Jerry: It’s only taken me over a year to see your entry. Just happened t the website for ADV TM 44 site. Yes, I remember you, but not details of your background. And I do not remember too much about what you did.
        I became a lifer, spent time in RVN, Lebanon, Liberia, West Point, Fort Carson, Fort Bragg and elsewhere. Spent time flying in F16s, left my career in ruin at Fort Carson, but glad I stayed in. Tell me alittle yourself.
        Where are you? Did you have post-Army career?
        Mine was in Education and being a thorn in the side of Liberals, and am persona non grata from the local liberal rag in town. Live in Hutchinson, KS, can’t stand the lying and liberalism I am seeing; and, as may be surmised, don’t have many friends. Would love to hear from you.
        Chuck Sankey

    • Chuck… I worked in the Thu Duc TOC 69 70… I’ve been trying to locate Ron Schoemaker.. (Not sure of spelling)… He worked in the GD TOC at nights… Do you remember or have location info… Thanks in advance…

        • Bruce: Just discovered this site. Not sure if this will catch up to you. I was your assistant for a few months in early to mid summer 1970.

          Love to here from you. Pat Maloney

          • Pat. I worked the TOC in Thu Duc in your time frame…. Remember MAT – 60 my email is email me and I’ll send you mt tel #…… I do remember giving one of the MATs an antenna from the TOC and boy did I catch shit from other team members

      • I rotated in July 70… Don’t remember going with you, Bowles, Plath , Marechal, Kelly were some of the team members I worked with, but as they say I never left home with out my radio on an operation… remember one airmobile when the slick crew tried to steal one of the ARVAN’s motor bike… …. … I remember giving one of the teams an antenna from the TOC to improve their radio… but not sure of the team… Also I did contact Ron … after 40 years…

    • Chuck, were you from Arizona. The team leader in Can Gio was a good acquaintance. We were both from AZ. I had either Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner with the team in 1969. The RF commander in the area had us drinking a Japanese Whiskey and I flagged the chopper off in favor a boat ride the next morning with the Navy. I spent 12 years active and then 17 years in the Reserves in Montana. Worked for the reserves as a civilian. Went to Desert Storm in ’90-’91. Retired from uniform as an LTC in ’94. Retired in 2004 from the civilian side and moved back to AZ.

  24. I served at Province Team HQ from late ’70 until DEROS in May ’71, after being District Operations Advisor at Binh Chanh. Would like to hear from contemporaries, especially if you have photos, as most of mine were stolen. BTW, had the opportunity to speak with Mr. McKillop a couple of years later at a Foreign Policy Association event. Tony Ambrose

    • not good with names; Tony what job did you have at Gia Dinh? sorry no pictures; the one person who had loads as pasted and not sure where they went.

      • Jerry:

        Do you remember CPT Dan Gordon from Texas. He was liaison to Con Son Island (NVA prisoner of war settlement.

        Chuck Sankey

        • Chuck, not sure if i had replied to your question on Dan Gordon. i do not recall him but you and i shared an office when you advised PSDF and I RD Cadre. i thinl a couple months at the most.

    • Tony I was assigned as DSA of Binh Chanh in Jan 72 and served until Jan 73 before joining the Four Party Joint Military Commission. I’m approaching 80 YO now and memory not so sharp. The District Chief, Col ?, lost his foot during an attack on the compound and was replaced about 6 months after I arrived. Little short guy wore glasses. Have many pictures that I will send you if you’ll send your email address. Charlie

      • Charlie: I’m at As I recall, the District Chief when I was there used a nom de guerre, I think it meant “Victory” or “Conquer” or something like that. During the summer of 1970 there was a fire in the home of his deputy and his daughter perished. Some of us tried to get into the house to help her, but flames and smoke kept us from finding her. Shame. Part of the problem was that the DDC had a virtual arsenal of weapons and ammo hidden therein – when this started cooking off it was a real mess. Good to hear from you. Tony

        • Tony, after thinking of it I feel more certain that I met you at BC the day you left there? And, yes I’m sure that Sfc Henson was the NCO in the bunker to the South of the DSA trailer. After you left I installed a movie theater in the Mess Hall, but as you probably remember the generator had it’s own schedule when to run, and when not to. I can’t remember their names, but while I was assigned there, before converting over to the 4 Party JMC, ost both of them. The first, the one that was there when you were, was injured on an operation, and the second one lost his leg when the compound was attacked in broad d!ay light! The little house girl, Hawn(?) was there until I left, after the Peace Agreement was signed. I was reassigned, after the treaty was signed, to Vinh Long, working with the VC, NVA, and SVN units. A very different way of life. Anyway just wanted to bring back some memories. Oh, yes, we were still hauling water forer the water tower:))

        • Tony, a couple of questions. First, did you know Dunlap, and that I was informed that he was awarded the Silver Star. Never seen him leave the compound, and understand their was some feelings over the award; and second, do you remember a Captain Johnson assigned to Province Hq and was a college football star?

    • Tony, I was thinking that you DEROS back to the states when I replaced you at BC? Remember that you departed the District the day that I got there. Remember the house girl “Ha(sp)?” Lost two District Chiefs within the year that I was there from combat wounds. One when the compound was overrun. I have pictures of BC if you’d like; email:

  25. My dad Lt. Col David Cartes never spoke of Veitnam, he passed in Aug of 99, reading thru his old papers I found reference to Gia Dinh RDC/O and then in Long An. Does anyone remember him? Would like to hear back, Thanks Fred Cartes

  26. No… only remember ron… as we spoke nightly … this is my email… drop a private line and I’ll send you my cell # .. I go to the VA in Brooklyn to use the gym and have never ran into any MACV people.. ps I live in NY… would love to talk….

  27. I’m trying to locate any information regarding Major, HOWCOTT, Henry Grant. My name is Earl and he was my uncle and I’m trying to help his son gather information regarding his dad. So if you knew my Uncle please respond.

    Casualty Location: Province code 24. Country code VS.
    Gia Dinh Province, South Vietnam.


    • I knew then Cpt. Howcott at Fort Riley when I was there in the summer of 1963 for two months prior to going to Fort Benning for basic infantry officers training. I would be interested in knowing what happened to him, as he was a fine gentleman and a fine officer

  28. Does anyone know Mr. Vernon T. Metcalf? I recently purchased a French MAS 39, with capture papers that indicate that he captured this weapon as a member of MAVC, Advisory Team 44. I would really like to contact him and talk to him about this rifle, if possible. If anyone could help me with this, I would be very grateful.

  29. I was team 44 medic from jan. 69 to june 69. Our ao was west of Saigon with the pfs. Some of my friends while there, was sgt. Boyd, spec. White, Lt. Lindell, Lt. Fox, Capt. Blackwell was there sometimes, looking for something to eat. There are others that I cannot think of their names all of the time.

      • Got to the Infintray school in Aug 69… Was the RTO.. took Rankors place… Don’t remember the Doc’s name… we moved from school to Tean house in District HQ. in Sept 69… Some of the names, Bowles, Marcechal(?),Rich Wynn, Maj Michels was co… Send me your phone number to my email address and would love to talk.. OD

  30. I was with MAT 44 from June of 1968; temporary assigned from the 199th LIB and subsequently transferred to MACV command. Located just outside of Saigon at the confluence of the Ben Cat and Saigon River (Go Vap). Transferred to a “hotter spot” south of Saigon (Binh Chanch District) because of personality differences with the new District Advisor!! He was transferred out the next day!!! Rank has its privileges.

  31. I was a member of Advisory Team 44 from November 1968 until November 1969. Upon arrival Colonel Herbert was in charge and subsequently replaced by Foreign Service Officer Charles S. Whitehouse who later became the American Ambassador to Laos and Thailand. Team 44 was located in Gia Dinh Province, outside of Saigon. Team 44 had MATs located in Thu Duc, Nhe Be, Rung Sat Special Zone to name of few. I served with Major Willis, Master Sergeant Fletcher etc..

    • As a 1lt (John D. Stone, I assumed command of MATIII-55 in Thu Duc while you were with Team 44, but after more than a year in the field, Col. Herbert allowed me to come in from the cold in the fall of 1969. As a Captain I became the Senior RF/PF advisor in Gia Dinh, and lived at the Team 44 Team house near Tan Sun Nuht. Did we meet?

      • We probably did. You fine officers lived in a nice house which u believe was a house for some countries embassy personnel. Visited there a few times to enjoy the outdoor swimming pool. I was the NCOIC of the Administrative Section for our Advisory Team.

    • Col Herbert was replaced by David Holmes McKillop who was a Foreign Services Officer 1, not sure when his tour ended as i left in April 1971. He went on to become an adviser for Senator Pell of RI.

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