Team 13 Saigon

MACV Team 13 – Saigon

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31 thoughts on “Team 13 Saigon

  1. Hello I’m the son of a mac v vet .he was there in 1963 Maj Bliss Wilder he will be 91 in Aug. Any one rember him? Hit him up at ltcwilder@juno.com . And in 64.65 with the 101Ann.he is a WWll vet as well

    • My grandfather was MACV in 1965 and 1966. I would like to find someone who knew him. His name was Presley C. Pritt went by Jay and was GMCS.

  2. Saigon was my HQ I was on mat 42 Long Thanh Bein hoa dist. 1970 -71 would like to hear from other members of macv

  3. I was assigned to Team 21 in Pleiku from February-August 1967 but spent the first two months in Koelper Compound at MACV HQ where I had two buddies, Desmond from NY and Brian Patterson from NJ. If anyone else worked with them or knows of their whereabouts I would appreciate this info. My buddy just told me about this website that I looked up last night and placed a comment in Team 21’s site. Ken Kraft

    • Koelper Compound was an English language school in Saigon when I was there in 1969-70.
      There were a couple other schools in the area including Dong Kahn in the Cholon area where I taught.

  4. Hello out there! I’m looking Peter Stevens. I believe he worked in the MACV office in Saigon in 1967 and 68 as an editor/supervisor. My mom, worked as a translator and I’m trying to find Peter for her. Thanks so much!

  5. Steve and Paul, I also identify with your stories. I was a radio operator assigned to MACV Team 15 Quang Nam Province. HQ in Hoi An, just a little South of Da Nang. I went on conbat assaults with Lt May and the RF ‘s when Eagle flights were available, but like you said all and all fairly safe. I agree with your statement we were lucky to be on an advisory team. Working with the South Viets and creating relationships because relationships in business and personal life is what it is all about. I wrote song about my experience and one of the lines follows “In 73 we went home South Viets were on their own, We make a toast to Major Mieng and SGT Phoung they fought for right when we were gone. If you want I can send you a copy
    Michael.Murpny17@outlook.com
    dont forget the dot between Michael and Murphy

    • Our foreign service officer in Binh Dinh was in VN when we were all leaving and our Viet Namese counterparts said “you treated us as an orange, you squeezed the juice out of us and threw it away”. Like almost every other person working on an advisory team I feel we left so much unfinished. It is a terrible, hollow feeling when I think of the hell my Viet Namese friends had to go through.

      • Hello Steve I feel the same way. I had 2 good friends in Vietnam. I was a spec 4 radio operator and they were interpreters in the Vietnamese Army. One got killed in a fire fight (KIA). I heard about it from the other. He said “SGT Phoung got killed in Binh Din Province last week. Thanks for coming to my country and F@#king Up my life”. That hurt for awhile, but eventually the two of us were friends again but never the same. I can only imagine what it was like for them.

  6. I was assigned to a school on Tran Hung Dao street, Saigon, in ’69-’70. We had Air Force and Navy personnel. After the school was blown up, we were moved out to Tan Son Nhut airbase. I don’t know which unit I was with. Can anyone point me in the right direction.

    • Lee,
      I’m quite sure you were with Advisory Team 62 teaching English to Vietamese military personnel. I was Navy and taught at Royal Annex, JGS, Tan Son Nhut And Vung Tau 1970-1971. You will want to check out the ‘PalaceDog’ Yahoo group and the Team 62 area here. A reunion is being planned.

      • I extended my tour in 5/70, and was assigned to the Navy N-9 unit hg Saigon. Did anyone serve in that unit that I might know?

      • Hello Dean. I also was Navy and helped build and start the Royal Annex. Was there from April/May69 – Mar 70. Lt John Bailey was the CO. I was an instructor and School Admin guy with John. Any details about the reunion in Branson Sept 2016?

    • The school was Dong Khan in the Cholon area. I was in the building when it was blown up. We taught at ‘tent city’ until the school was repaired then we moved to a bunch of corrugated metal buildings near Tan Son Nhut which I knew as MACV-Annex but I understand it had another name.

    • Were you Navy or AF? I was an USAF instructor 9/69-9/70. The official name of our unit was 1131st USAF Special Activities Sqdn. Det. 11, Advisory Team 62, MACV also referred to as AFLS – Armed Forces Language School. The place you’re referring to was known as the Dong Khanh school as the street name @ the time was Dong Khanh. For most of my tour (1/70-9/70) I lived @ the St. George BEQ on DK a few klicks W of the school bldg. There is a yahoo group, actually 2 – AFLS & Palace Dog, which was the AF “code name” for our program.

  7. I have a friend who is looking for her biological father here is the info of him (Donald Ayers born 1945 Milwaukee WI who served for the U.S. Army in 1965-1966 stationed at MACV1 Saigon Vietnam ) If anyone has any info of him or remember him as your team mate please contact me at Antvin604@yahoo.com Thanks in advanced. Tony Nguyen

  8. Hello All. I was a 31J20-B3 at White Birch Saigon from Sep.72 to Dec. 72 ASA/NSA. I went from there to USASA Augsburg, GR Feb. 1973 to Sep. 1974. Left the Army and went to work for the Navy Weapons Systems in 74 and retired in 2006 as a Naval Facilities Planner in Mechanicsburg, PA. I can be reached via E-mail at: mjshaffer7@hotmail.com

  9. I went through the HQ (old) on Pasteur Street in July of 1968. I was a PFC 05B20.

    The orientation session lasted about two (2) weeks, as I recall. Myself and two other radio ops were the lowest ranking enlisted guys who attended them. It was a little disconcerting sitting next to Majors and Colonels at the sessions! The presentations were pretty good and gave us SOME IDEA of what to expect at the Teams which we were going to.

    I ended up in Two Corps at the Team 28 HQ “on the beach” and finally at Song Cau. The other two radio ops were assigned to a Team in Da Nang. I never saw either one again!

    I had a good tour of duty in Song Cau. There really was not much radio operating to do (one VHF Net, only) so I helped out the Major with his HES Reports, and our CORDS guy with some of his projects. I even “taught” English (actually only pronounced te English words) at the local Catholic High School in Song Cau on my days off from my military duties.

    Song Cau was a sleepy little village at first. After Tet in 1968 things got a little hotter and we had some minor run-ins with the local VC, but generally it was a pretty safe place to be. I enjoyed my tour of duty in Vietnam and felt that we had done some good there.

    I was a draftee and returned to college after Vietnam, went to Law School after that, and was a career Prosecutor in Los Angeles for many years until I retired in 2008.

    I currently live in Santa Ynez, CA where I fly my own plane, operate my Ham Radio (WA6RXM) and collect classic cars.

    • Paul, Your story sounds exactly like mine. Except I came home and went to pharmacy school and after 40 plus years as a phamacist I have retired. I also was a draftee and trained 11B infantry and when I went to VN I was changed to 05B20 radio operator. The orientation in Saigon was a little strange with all the officers doing the same thing as we were. We had just finshed training in Fort Lewis thinking that we couldn’t even talk to officers, and now they were side by side with us doing the same training.
      Our experience was vastly different than most VN veterans. Those of us lucky enough to be on an advisory team, working with the Viet Namese day to day understood how important it was that we were there. I was assigned to CORDS which was nothing like being in the army. I went out on combat assaults and did a few night ambushes with the RF and PF’s but all and all was fairly safe. I was on team 42 in Qui Nhon which was the headquarters for Binh Dinh province. Our compound was on the South China Sea and we had very little enemy activity at the compound while I was there.
      CORDS had a lot of activity and kept us busy with the grunt work. The HES and relocation was difficult to understand as was the Phoenix Program, but I pretty much did what I was asked. One of our foreign services officers, Bill Erdahl, was in SE Asia until 1985 and has done many more assignments since then. He currently is in Brazzaville, Congo working for the UN. At my age I don’t think I want to do that anymore.
      I wish I had a short wave, In high school a friend of mine and I used to use his dads, W0(zero)CYI.

      • Fine business, Steve.

        Yeah, being in those briefing sessions with all of the Officers was strange for elisted guys like us!

        We had a Phoenix guy assigned to our Team claiming to be a Army Warrant Officer. But I believe that he was actually CIA. That program (DOICC) was just getting started before my DEROS so didn’t have much to do with it.

        Yesm I agree with you that our (mutual) experiences were different than the average draftee’s and thankfully as we both made it back to the states I one piece.

        I actually operated some ham radio in VN. The Major got me a man-pack HF radio and I made up a phoney british call sign and worked a few stations on CW. I knew that it would have been illegal to operate in a war zone using my real all sign.

        I read some more of your posts in the Team 42 section here. Sounds like uou had a pretty good tour an as you said very similar to mine in many ways.

        If you like to read try the book “War of the Inocents” by Charles B. Flood. Good book. I was one of the people at the Song Cau Team that Mr. Flood interviewed for the book…

        PAUL POINDEXTER

    • I just re-read your post on Team 42. It is amazing what a Montagnard crossbow would buy. a visiting dignitary was in our TOC admiring mine so I gave to him.

  10. I was there in 67 & 68. we reported to the Saigon Office and we were assigned to a Popular Forces companies in two different villages. both were in proximity of 2/3 infantry companies that had camps in villages on the edge of the Delta near Saigon. There was another teams that was camped under a bridge near us. This was just prior to Tet and during Tet. We went on ambushes and patrols with the PFs. All teams were reported increased activity prior to Tet. listening to the radio chatter was like listening to a soap opera during that period. It seemed like HQ could care less what we were finding.

  11. Hello out there in the land of the unpopular war. My Name is Ken Strickland and I was assigned to Advisor Team 13 in 72/73. It was my last of three tours of duty In Vietnam my second tour of duty as a officer. I was a captain while with Team 13 and was assigned as Advisor to the ARVN 306th Floating Craft Maintenance Group. The position was a O-4, Command Equivalent Position. I had a crew of one WO, Three NCO’s and two Specialist.

    Our Mission was to provide Military Assistance to the only Watercraft Maintenance Group in the Army of Vietnam.

    Our headquarters was Transportation Assistance Directorate, Director of Logistics, HQ. MACV. Our office was located near the race track in Saigon.

    I hope to hear from any of you guys who can still remember back that far.

    Ken Strickland

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