Team 33 ARVN 23rd Division

MACV Team 33 – ARVN 23rd Division.

This Page is intended for the discussion of the Military Assistance Command Vietnam Team 33 located with the ARVN 23rd Division.

149 thoughts on “Team 33 ARVN 23rd Division

  1. Was at BMT 69-70 with the Air Force. Lived in a hut near the Bungalow. Worked in Intelligence in a bunker there and also on the little shack for the FAC’s on the air strip. Had some great and bad times there – the Bungalow was a great building.

    • Renovating/restoring/improving the Grand Bungalow, a former official hunting lodge for French and Vietnamese and others, was a on going issue from the day I got there, May 20, 1963, under the direction of Colonel Madden and Major Bible…Movie theater created,officers club, new mess hall, new barbque pit, new tennis court and new security improvements, fences, gates, lighting and etc….There was only 20 men in our MAAG Advisory Team #33, from a full bird colonel to a PFC, all working with our Vietnamese Infantry counterparts…………..Great memories

  2. My dad’s MACV info info lists him as being an advisor to 2nd Bat., 44th Inf, 23rd Inf. Div of ARVN. Would he have been in the MACV facility or HQ in Ban Me Thout or would he have been in some other outpost? Wondering how that might have worked.

    • If your Dad was an advisor to the 23 Arvn div, 44th inf, he would have been billeted at the Grand Bungalow. I was there fm Nov 65 to Sept 66 as an NCO. While the name Lt Ferguson is kind of familiar, I really do not recall him.

  3. Trying to see if I’m asking the right crowd about my dad. His first tour was June ’65-May ’66 as 1st Lt. William E. Ferguson. Don’t have much info on where he was, only that he was an advisor to 2nd. Bat., 44th Inf. Regiment, 23 Inf. Div. Any help or direction is appreciated.

    • I’m afraid I won’t be of much help. I was senior advisor to 2d Bn 44th Regt in 69 and 70 – several years later. The name sounds familiar, but don’t know why.

  4. With Team 33 from August 68 to August 69. Came to RVN as Spec 5, promoted to SSG while there. Worked as a order of battle analyst in the G2 section. Left the army after my tour.

  5. I remember the Strategic Hamlet programs, in Darlac Province, took a while to get all on board, but worked out good, increased our relations with the local populace, especially the Montagnards

  6. Hello all,
    I am only a local Vietnamese boy that grew up in the city of BMT, my father is Lt. Colonel Lu Phung, he was in charge of G2 for 23rd ARVN Army division from 1967 to 1974. I used to travel with my father to MACV bungalow. If anybody recognizes the name or can please give me some information I would love to see all the pictures of 23rd HD or anything related to BMT, I can contacted by emailing me to

    • Sgt. Davis signing in; served Jan 1967 to Feb 1968. Radio operator for Col. Silver, reported to Cpt. and DTOC we never thought Bungalow complex would be attacked as Green Beret Team adjacent to compound had intel we were Ok. Then 1st Tet intel advised and forecast big time problems coming in 1968. Started sand bagging roofs of compound, layoff of all house keeping workers, knocked down wall of soccer field across street. It was a major blow out. During 1967 General Westmoreland visited compound, James Garner, numerous USO troupe’s and movies every night. When Tet hit everything changed. Total under estimate made of VC enemy living within our vicinity. We had 5500 Arvn tropes in our command, 110 MACV Military advisors.
      Any other radio operators, or anyone else serving at that time, would be happy to hear from.
      Don Davis
      Arrived in Country rank E2, left as Sgt. E-5, went to Fort Campbell Kentucky discharged Aug 1968

      • I was the M P on the Bungalow gate the night That our people ran out of the compound and started knocking down the wall with vehicles that were parked in front of it. I had to stop one guy that was backing a jeep into the wall. I was trying to tell him that if that jeep went through that wall that he was going to be hurt or killed. Before I could make him understand what I was talking about some one said the Col. said to stop knocking down the wall. There were several big holes in the wall by then.

    • I remember your dad, he reported to DTOC, Col. Davidson was one of the Officers in charge at that time, he in turn reported to Col. Silver, who I believe was promoted to General after serving his tour at BMT. It will be hard to trace very many people who served at that time, we are all 70 plus years old now.

    • In 1955 my father was appointed Deputy Province Chief Of Ban Me Thuot, replacing his French counterpart Mr.Noblot (spl?) when the French were leaving South VietNam. We lived in one of the two bungalows. When I returned to Ban Me Thuot in 1971, the bungalows disappeared- it was reported that they burned down. I spent 2+ years with the ARVN 23rd Inf Div and knew its headquarter staff including the G2 chief.
      I was able to find the old pictures of the bungalow which was later used as MAAG then MACV team 33 headquarter

      • Did you happen to remember, or hear your father mention, a MAAG office there in the 1950s with the last name Knecht per chance? That was a fairly small contingent in the 50s working with the French.

  7. I was on the MACV team number 33 in BMT 1967 to 1968. Tet I. There with Mike Benge from “USAID”, who was taken POW during Tet I.Worked in provincial hospital, also with 5th SF group Buon Ho & Lac Thien. Cannot find ANYONE who was there or even in Darlac or with 23rd ARVN or the 155. Lt. Willis was the MSC officer. Travis, Yancy, PJ, Y-Jan, H-Djot and the rest. Will someone please contact me ?

    • Radio operator: Running Batman 49er call sign 1967-68 BMT. Barnes in Nha Trang, had hundreds of calls with sub stations on single side band. Our tower was 135 ft tall in BMT, I climbed it once, swayed in the breeze, 23 sub stations, was not easy on the guys in the boonies, easily over run at night without Spookie and Gunship help from us.
      Equipment destroyed, not ever replaced. We were not kept up to make the real fight. Sorry to all who we could not cover due to lack of equipt.

      • I am doing a newspaper story on a young man John Douglas Ward Jr. who was on team 33 and was a radion operator to the senoir advisor of 2nd battalion 23 ARVN. If anyone has any information I would appreciate it.

        • Michael, I knew Doug well, I talked to him a few hours before he was killed, he was involved in some serious combat, the entire province was over run by Nva. He was a nice guy, spent a lot time with him.

  8. I was with TM 33 serving with the 53rd regiment, 23rd division from Dec 69 till July 71. Served at various times in all 4 battalions (Duc Trong, Dalat, Ze Lin Gia Nihia, Dak To and was in Bam Me Thuot several times for operational meetings. Greetings to all fellow teal 33 members

      • Ron, what year was this?. We built the tennis courts in 1965/66. We buffaloed a VN ChumWei into giving us sacks of concrete in exchange for deuce and a half batteries. Later, we went back at night and bribed the Rhade guard to look the other way and stole the batteries back. We used “borrowed” grenade fences for the fencing.

          • Colonel Madden, Sr Adv, got upset with our alcohol consumption, told me to go to Special Services, in Saigon, on a milk run, and pickup plans/specs for a tennis court…This was mid summer 1963, we actually had everyone on our Advisory Tm#33, playing tennis…Special Services, Saigon, saw me a lot…I laid out the barbque pit over by the messhall…I had a buddy in the commissary, Saigon, would radio me that my pallet of steaks had arrived, packed in dry ice..Great barbques and nickel beer(3.2 military) Lucky Lager and Olympia brands..I arrived in May 1963, rotated back in May 1964

  9. I will keep in contact. You also are the only person I have been in contact in all these years (Over 50 years ago – WOW!!!!!) Email me in my personal email address so we can keep in contact. Later……….

    • Flores, I remember you, you always had a easy going attitude and happy about life personality. I was in the radio room. Don Davis

  10. I remember you well. Until you were assigned I was the only one in S1 except for two Vietnamese secretaries that spoke, understood little English. There was a driver Cya (CUAI) WHO was our driver who spoke relatively good English that was later arrested by the QC for being a VC. I will never forget my time in BMT. We were lucky as I understand that things really hot bad after I left. Please stay in contact. You are the only one that I have been able to contact in all these years.

  11. You are right. I remember you now. Sgt Vilt right? If I remember correct we went several times to the city market there in Ban Me Thuot. There was also another fellow by last name of Stevens.

    • I still have a lot of mementos from my time in Vietnam . At that time I had no idea that I would stay in the military for 32 years. A big thrill was to get my commission as a Warrant Officer. And also work for DOD for an additional 20 years.

  12. Looking for MAAG Team 33 members who may have been there in 1962 when Sec.of Defense Robert S. McNamara was briefed (on his first fact finding mission to Vietnam) and who may have known Capt. Darrell Herrington? I’d like to hear from you if so.

    • Wish I could help you, but I arrived at Bungalow Banmethuot on May 20, 1963, Capt Herrington would have been before my tour..Ya know, upon my arrival, Corp of Engineers was drilling water well, related plumbing, officers quarters between Bungalow and new mess hall, were built, new row of enlisted buildings, and the BBQ grill and tennis court were added, all within one year,,,Mars unit was set up at dirt airfield east of town establishing communications…Because, all we had initially was field phones to Pleiku hq and Saigon

      • Thanks for the comeback Ron. Capt. Herrington was a close family friend, did another tour with MACV in 1967, passed away two years ago. I’ve been working on a book about Vietnam and he passed along some photographs, and some show them involved in doing some Engineering work in a river, lots of interactions with Montagnards. I can make out a Captain Beauchamp, and name tapes that look like Lt. Drinkwater, Lt. Tallant, Lt. Eidson, there’s a black Sgt whose name tape I can’t make out. The Grand Bungalow looks like it has some very fresh brown paint on it, with an archway sign in front of it that reads “MAAG-Vietnam US advisory Detachment 23rd Infantry Division.” Another sign on a hut identifies “Advisory Team 33 1st Bn 44 Inf Regiment” with the MAAG Insignia. If anyone is willing to answer a few questions from those early years please contact me.

  13. I am thinking the elderly lady referred to as Sheba is the Lady that lived in the Bungalow and did sewing for us. She had her own room and I remember the sewing machine she had in it. She sewed some patches on for me. While serving as a Military Policeman on the Bungalow gate in 1968 I had several occasions to talk with her when she would pass through after returning from her trips to town. She was well respected by every one, and a very nice lady. Also, Do any one remember a First Sargent in the compound by the name of Witherspoon? (1968)

    • Yes, Sheba was hired as supervisor of civilian personnel..We established a co-op mess association, wherein all the guys paid dues, we built the mess hall, barbque pit and hired locals to work in mess hall, houseboys and also hired Ms Gloria, local Vietnamese/Cambodian young lady who worked for Detachment Commander, Major Bible, who was in charge of all these activities..Tennis court construction was thru Special Services, Saigon, thru our Senior Advisor, Colonel Madden, and it came down to Captain Dominic Pasquariello, Engr Corps, for actual hands-on with local Vietnamese workers….My first Sergeants were Sgt Major Edwards, first, then Sgt Major Cassell, both made E9, while I was there – May 1963 thru May 1964

  14. I don’t know exactly what the buildings were, but my Father took several photos of structures under construction. Seems they were intent on improving the camp and spent a good deal of time at it.

  15. Looking for anyone who knew CPT Joe Weatherall who was an advisor to the 23rd Division in 1968 and 69.

  16. I was arty liaison officer to 47th Reg in mid 71 at Phu Nhon. Was replaced and sent back to my battery next door (C/7/15FA-heavy) when we became short of LTs. Wa there for the rocket attack in June. Is this the right team for the 47th at that time? I only remember “Fast Eddei” and “Capt Flap” for names, which isn’t helpful!

      • Maybe I’m confused. I was also with the 45th Rgt in Apr 71 at Dak To. Perhaps I’m reversing regiments? Rgt Cmdr was Col Minh, XO, LTC Trung and S-2 was Maj Cau. Don’t remember the names from Phu Nhon.

  17. 5/22 was out at the Ban Me Thuot airport. Had two 8 inchers and 2 175s.
    Had a couple of TIAs few years and sorry but the memory is hazy about some things.
    Dont remember your dad

  18. My Pops was with the 5/22 on a 175 crew. His name was Gerald Humble. May have went by Jerry. Hoping to gain as much info as possible.

  19. I was there from april 70 to april 72. Worked in senior advisors office and admin office. Worked with Travis, Charlie Norman, Lt. Link and others. Made a lot of trips to airport picking up new arrivals and taking people leaving country.

    • Hi George,

      We are still remember you. How are you? I am retired from Defense Finance & Accounting service two years ago and Co Chi retired from Homeland Security about three years ago. It is very nice being retired. How about you? What are you doing?

      • Hi Mike. Been retired for a few years on disability. I wonder what happened to a lot of the Vietnamese nationals that worked for us when the country fell. I felt so sorry for them.

        • George, I agree with you about the Vietnamese we worked with. I’ve spent the last 46 years looking at every video and news report showing Vietnamese faces looking for a familiar face. I’ve also spoken in Vietnamese to those I have run into and to my Vietnamese college students only to find out that I still speak more and better Vietnamese than these second and third generation Vietnamese Americans. Never have been able to find anyone who knows anyone I do. As a battalion senior advisor with the 44th regiment, I spent most of my tour out in the woods with about 500 Vietnamese soldiers. We put everything on the line for each other every day, and now I don’t know what happened to any of them or what I could do to help any of them that are still alive.

          I can relate to disability retirement. I’m headed back to the VA Hospital tomorrow afternoon to get scheduled for surgery to replace both knees and fix (wish they could replace) my lower back. Over the years, I’ve progressed (more likely regressed) from 10 to 30 to 40 and finally 100% service connected disability. The money is nice, but I’d give it all back with interest if they could give me back a functional body.
          Mike Dacus

    • I worked in Senior Advisor, Colonel Francis J Madden, office at Bungalow Banmethuot from May 20, 1963 until rotation May 20, 1964…Advisors to local based Vietnamese 23rd Infantry Division….Built the mess hall, texas size barbque pit and our beautiful tennis court, plus lotsa improvements to the bungalow – good duty

  20. I was the 05B20 at Song Cau from July ’67 t August ’68. I remember Colonel BA who was the CO of the 23rd Division at the time. I believe that they were quartered in Tuy Hoa then. Later I know that they were moved all around the Country.

    I reall one specific incident in which some squads of the 23rd Division were flown into the LZ at Song Cau along with Colonel Ba. I had abount a week left on my tour and had managed to stay out of trouble until then. An NVA Squad had had inhabited a Hamlet out on the very tip of the Peninsula of Xuan Dai Bay.

    We staged a night helicopter assault (RFs, and PFs from Song Cau plus the 23rd Arvin guys). Unfortunately by the time we got out there they had already shot the Hamlet Chief and his wife (they had disemboweled her).

    I vividly remember jumping out of the Huey AFTER about 10-15 of the Vietnamese had done so! Naturally the chopper had gained altitude so when I finally jumped out I fell about 15 feet though the air. Luckily I landed in a big bush which helped to break my fall.

    The NVA Squad was never caught – they had apparently swam back to the mainland and thus escaped. Most of the guys who participated in the action got “paper” certificates of commendation. Of course it was written entirely in Vietnamese and they had misspelled my name on it, as well. These were presented to us at a farewell luncheon for the Major (Frank Underwood) and I by Di-We Troung the District Chief of Song Cau at the time.

    The next day Major Underwood took at C-130 to Saigon enroute to the States. He got a flight back almost immediaty (due to his rank, I guess). I had to wait about a WEEK to get a plane. I really didn’t mind as I just got a motel room on Tu Do Street and played “tourist” in Saigon, visiting the big PX there, the Public Library, Le Circle Sportif, and a bunch of very good restuarants on Tu Do Street and elsewhere.

  21. Virgil – apparently we did overlap during that time but I really only knew the folks around the G2 shop as well as the ARVN’s we worked with. Obviously as an E5 I did not make the daily Div briefings but I have good memories about BMT and our duties as advisors. Was saddened when BMT became the first major city to fall to the bad guys at the end. I retired in ’87 as an E8 (P) and still live in the Ft. Huachuca, AZ area. Army Strong!

  22. Bob, our time may have overlapped since i was with Tm 33 from Aug 70 to Jul 71. I was the Senior Adviser to the Division Logistics Battalion. Maj Sonsini (?) was the Senior G4 Adviser. i remember quite well the morning briefings at Division Hq.. The SF compound, being next door, was often a good change of pace. We lived in those one room BOQs on the perimeter behind the wire. You may remember that the Division SGM was ‘Yard.

  23. I was a Team 33 E5 G2 advisor from Jun 70-May 71. A MAJ Turborg (sp?) was the G2 advisor, and I worked with E5 Darrel (Dusty) Baugess and Mickey (?). As noted, the Bungalow was gone and we lived in metal notches that were pretty comfy. I remember the ‘Yard village we passed on the way to Div HQ and the B23 compound where we could get fresh-made pizzas from the SF guys. Would love to hear from anyone that was there around the same time.

    • I have heard about The Bungalow being gone but never heard how or when. I was Team 33 in 68 and 69. Col Henry Barber was CO then

      • It burned down in 70′ a sgt. was heating some coffee in his room and knocked over the sterno and the place went up quick & hot. I was there when it happened.

        • Hi,,,

          The Bungalow burned down December, 1969.

          I remember because Dick Works and I were forming Task Force 21 at Camp Swampy.
          My job was to fend off Colonels who wanted us to do jobs other than our mission.

          I was having lunch with the MACV Commander when the fire started.
          The rest is not for publication.

          Jim Hampshire’s platoon did the cleanup and built the steel huts that replaced the quarters.
          Jim was one of the Corp. of Engineer Platoon Leaders, ever!
          He should have had my job, if it had been just engineering, not fending…

          The destruction of The Bungalow was very sad and could have been avoided.

          David McConville
          Deputy Commander Task Force 21, ’69 & ’70.

          • I was in my hooch which was about 20 ft. away from the hooch that the E-5 knocked over the sterno can in …we heard some one hollering and when we looked out from our rooms the smoke was pouring out of his room; myself and a couple of the other guys from the security platoon tried to put it out but there was no way as I stated in my other post it burned and spread super fast & within minutes it jumped over to the main bungalow and the rest is history.

          • I’m so sorry to hear how that fire started and how it destroyed the Bungalow. Have lots of fond memories in that place. One of the funniest was when the MPs decided they were going to convert a conex into a small holding cell. Guess they never thought about how hot it would get in there or what would happen if a prisoner was claustrophobic Man, one night we thought we were getting mortared again because of all this noise in the middle of the compound. It was a drunk 11b from 4th division who decided staying in BMT was much better than marching out of town with his unit I dont think anybody got any sleep that night

            • I was a M P at the Bungalow from Mar. 68 to Sept. 68. That conex was placed near the supply room door and was not used to often. A mortor hit near it before I arrived at Banmethout and filled my room with holes. Also prior to my arrival a mortor struck the roof of the Bungalow and killed a captian in his room. I think his name was Davis. The Supply Sgt. was Sgt. Grice and his assistant was a guy named Dupre Lot of memories of the Bungalow and Banmethout. I spent a lot of time on the front gate . I remember opening it to let Gen. Westmoreland in an out of the compound. Fess Parker, Col Sage and Westmoreland all came riding in in that Ol Black 64 ford sedan with U S Navy stenciled on the side of it at different times. and no telling who else

              • The man killed was Douglas D. Crowe, CPT MI. He was the S2 advisor with the Darlac Province advisory team. His room was at the southwest corner of the south wing of the Bungalow. My room was at the northeast corner of the south wing. I vividly recall the explosion and later hearing of Doug’s death. I don’t recall if I’d made it out of my room when the mortar hit. Hopefully I’d made it to the 30 cal. machine gun nest outside my room. It was sandbag protected. I fondly think of Doug and recall him as being a very disorganized “organization” man. At times he was a “hardass” about efficiency. A few weeks before the Tet offensive I moved from reporting to Doug at the provincial team to the 23rd Division G2 shop where I opened the first G2 Order of Battle Target Center.

                Charles Casner
                1LT MI

        • I was there as well the morning it burned down. Was an Air Force ground radio operator who worked night before and just hit the sack when I heard the commotion. Was a very windy day and fire spread within minutes.

        • Hi Mike
          I was there as well that day. Was a ground radio operator with the Air Force FAC unit. I had worked the night before and was in my bunk when I heard the commotion. What I recall is fire trucks pulling up but weren’t able to get any water on the blaze. It was a windy day and it spread in a matter of minutes. I also heard it started from someone using a stereo. I was in Ban Me Thout from April of 69 to April of 70. Would love to hear from or if anyone has any info regarding the Air Force guys who were there at that time

          • Bill … it started with the sterno can, not a stereo as I said I was there almost immediately and seen the guy who started it & was trying to put it out which is how he was burned.

            • I know it was a sterno Mike. I can thank spellcheck for turning it into a stereo. Lol.
              So long ago but still a vivid memory!

      • Also the sgt. was burned pretty badly on his hands & arms when he was trying to put out the fire. I never seen him again after they took him to the hospital (he never came back to the compound) I was re-assigned to Song Mao.I had photos of the fire while it was going on; but a few years ago all my VN photos where lost due to a broken water line. The guy had put gasoline into a used sterno can to heat some coffee and knocked it over and the rest is history …. that creosote soaked teak burned fast & hot.

      • Hell-o Col Barber, as I remember you replaced Col. Silver when he rotated out? You were either coming in or had just arrived as I was on my way out in Feb. 68.
        My question is, were the Bungalows gone when you got there? My parents saw them burning from a bombing raid, but I never understood what really happened. My radio room was under Col. Silvers room.
        I really enjoyed the people of BMT, such an unfortunate war.
        Thanks for any response,
        Sgt. Davis

      • Sorry Todd, I do not. I do remember one of our medics as he as the baaad guy that had to administer our GG (gamma globulin) shots in the butt which were very uncomfortable! Unfortunately I do not remember his name.

        • when I was there in 68 we had a young doctor, he was a captain. No medic that I remember
          strange duck
          one day after guard duty all of us sleeping in the guard shack between rotations got the crabs. Some genius must have been rolling around on those mattresses. That Dr shaved every single hair off his entire body! That is not comfortable in a Ban Me Thuot summer!

  24. I was a Radio Op. at BMT from January to March in 65 until I was sent to Tuy Hoa (Team 28). About all I remember was the red dirt and the heat, got to Tuy Hoa and it was beach and rice paddys.

  25. May 1963 to May 1964 personnel: Sr Advisor was Col Francis J Madden, Detachment Commander was Major Bible, Sgt Majors were Edwards and Cassell(2)- Supply Sgt was Kenneth Pettit – mail clerk was Jehrome Gohrick, radio operators were George Khria and Elmer Buard

  26. Early 1964, SP5 from Philadelphia, turned in a 1049 to transfer out of adv tm 33 and Vietnam, transfer turned down, he goes to his room, shoots himself thru chest, Supply Sgt Pettit and I found him,small black power entry wound in front of chest, little red spot on his back, I ran to Sgt Major Cassell and Detachment Commander Major Bible, was told to load him on chopper, go to 8th field hospital, stay w/him and if he lives, bring his butt back..He was lucky, lived and I took him back to BMT, he went on hunger strike, got air lifted out several months later

  27. I worked for MACV Adv Tm 33 from July 1964 to April 1972. I am looking or any staff and friends I worked with during this time.

    • I was the Team Leader to the Regt from the ARVN Inf 23rd Div in Ban Me Thuot from Summer of 68 until Feb of 69 when I was MEDIVACED out to 239th Hospital in Japan…..later Retired on 70% in ’70. Lived in Bungalow. Boss was Col. Skelton (sp). My Xo better known (Major John Taylor). We kept Hwy 14 open mostly and provided protection for BMT.

      • LTC Cox,
        Just few lines to say hello and hope you are in the best of health. While I was with MACV Tm 33, I worked at the Administrative Office. I went to the US in April 1972 and the compound closed in October 1972. I still remember Colonel Skelton

        I never had a chance to go back to see my homeland.

    • Co Chi, did you work in the orderly room at the bungalo? When I arrived there in May of 69′ I was temporarily assigned to the orderly room (I had absolutely no office skills as my mos was 11-c) I was 18yrs old & looked like I was 16 … I am sure I remember you trying to teach me how to type. I believe the Captain was named Rolff. If that was you and you remember me I have some questions about a Vietnamese girl who worked in the chow hall that maybe you can help me with … my email is ( ) I am happy to hear that you made it out and everything is well with you and your husband..

      • Mike

        The girl you are talking about worked in the orderly room at the bungalow her name is Kim Ly. I worked at the Administrative Office. In 1972 I married and went to the United States. The MACV Team 33 closed in October 1972. All Vietnamese national workers got severance pay.

        I never had a change to go back to see my homeland, because I was busy working and raising my children. When I came to the US I worked for Defense finance & Accounting Service and Homeland Security. My husband got out of the service after 13 years and worked as a civilian. We both now retired.

        Please tell me the name of Vietnamese girl who worked in the chow hall and
        send to me her picture if you have so I can try to remember who she is. Thank you

      • Sheba was in charge of all locals working at the Bungalow Banmethuot, while I was there from May 63 to May 64 – There was a little cambodian girl, named Gloria, who also worked there

        • Mr. Carlson
          Sheba was a seamstress at the Bungalow Compound until Dec 1969 when the compound caught fire and she quit. I never heard about Gloria.

    • Co Chi, it has been 40+ years; yes Kim Lee was her (the girl in the orderly room) name I remember now. I will send a picture of the girl who worked in the chow hall to you with her name. I put my email address in my other post & if you would email me I will get them to you as I would rather not post them on here. Do you know if Kim Lee got out? I work for DoD as a civilian in Florida …. will retire one day as I have the age & years so I can go when I feel like it ☺

    • I was at BMT from December 1964 to December 1965. I worked in the admin office and was the Mail Clerk and Custodian of Classified Documents. I don’t know if you are the person I am thinking of. The CO was Captain Soriano and we were in an upstairs bungalow by the then volley ball court.

      • I still remember you and Captain Soriano. He left BMT in 1966. He was very nice and helped me a lot. I left BMT in April 1972 for the US, and MACV Team 33 closed in October 1972. I bet you still remember Co Ba? She stayed and worked with Team 33 until it closed in October 1972. She was married to a Vietnamese man. She wrote to me only one time and I never heard anything from her after that. I don’t know if she left Vietnam or not.

        How about you? What you are doing now? Are you retired yet? We retired about three years ago. It was good to hear from you.

        Co Chi

        • Looking for any one that knew Cpt Jack Reeves He was in Viet-Nam (MACV) 1966-1967 and 1970-1971. He turn 80 this year.
          and I doing a this is your life book. He has a house fire that burn all his paper. I am his 2nd wife so I know very little. If you can help.

      • I too was at Team 33 Nov 64 to Nov 65 as team clerk. Was promoted to E6 while there. Captain Soriano was not Commander of Team 33 but was the S1. Commander at that was LTC Laurence Browne. I was also personal secretary for him as I was the only clerk typist in the unit. I continued my service over a period of years and retired as W3 with 32 years active duty and also worked for the Department of The Army for an additional 20 years.

        • Phil Crouch I was in security platoon with sgt Preston,Casey, Dunnigan,Deshazo,Davis. I played tennis with Col. brown a couple times,because I could return his serve sometimes.I rember captain Purdy,major Parsons.I rember DEROS would drink beer out of a can. Do you rember the one command revilie we had when the girl was screaming for sgt Alford to pay his putang and rice bill.? funiest thing ever. I rember Matha Raye coming and Jonny Unitas and Frank Gifford and the brothers 4

          • Hey, Phil Crouch, was my Texas size barbque pit still there by the mess hall….I used to go down on milk run and bring back steaks in dry icepack pallet for the team members, along with Nickel beer on Saturdays – Then we all went down to the tennis court, which I also supervised its building – Just wondering if they were still there, when you were there???

    • I was in BMT from December 1964 – December 1965. I remember someone brought in a bear (cub) and he used to roam all over the compound until he got bigger and had to be caged. The cage was by the enlisted club if I remember correctly. A contest was held to name the bear and the winning name was “DEROS” – Date Eligible to Return from Overseas. Very appropriate name because all of us looked forward to that magic date.

      • The poor bear got to be an alcoholic. The guys would feed him booze and beer and he would snarf it down. It was so funny to see it staggering around the compound. He was caged after he shit in the SgtMajors bunk. When he died, the medic Duffy and the Medic captain did an autopsy and declared he died of an enlarged liver. Remember the monkey Charlie??

    • I left Bungalow Banmethuot on May 20, 1964….Sheba, local Vietnamese lady, was boss of all our compound local work staff

  28. Can’t put a face with the name. Did you work with the regimental team, recon company, or with one of the four battalion teams?

  29. Arrived Banmethuot, May 20, 1963, Colonel Francis Madden, Sr Adv, I was company clerk for our Advisory Team #33, helped build the mess hall, Texas style barbque pitt and best build was tennis court….US Army, Sp4, left May 20, 1964

    • Did you know Wilfrid Bourgouis? He was in Ban Me Thuot from 62-64. He was undercover as an American business man. Don’t know if he used his real name. Most people called him Bill or Will. He died in there on Aug. 17th, 1964. I would really appreciate any information about my father. Thank-you!

    • We were advisors to the Vietnamese 23rd Infantry Div, headquartered in Banmehuot..Our Detachment Commander was Major Bible, his clerk and our mail clerk was Jehrome Gohrick, sp4, from north dakota, my roommie was sp4 samuel van scoyoc, cool dude, also our medical representative, sharp guy, sgt Kenneth Pettit was supply sergeant, we had officers club in main hall of the bungalow, behind it was our theater where we had movies on thursday nites….sgt majors I worked for: Edwards and Cassell, both great guys….radio operators were george khria and elmer buard…Colonel Madden was one of the first sr advisors to get a new Huey chopper, assigned to him…

  30. I served as an advisor for 1st Battalion, 45th Regiment 1970-71, including Cambodia journey. Went back to BMT in 2007. It is now a city of over 300,000. Guess most of city destroyed in 1975 attack. I only recognized the traffic circle downtown.


  31. the funniest helo story i was personally involved in was one night during monsoon season we were called upon to assist with perimeter guard duty on the helo compound.
    We left the Bungalow and ferried down the road in jeeps to cover for the crew.
    I was Sgt then so was assigned sergeant of the guard.
    Sloshing through the incessant rain I was soaked to the bone.
    About then I saw the side door of a Huey partially open.
    Being an apparent genius…tongue in cheeek…I slid the door open a bit more and hopped up and in backwards.
    Ahhh, out of the rain for a few minutes.
    Almost simultaneously I heard “grrrrrr”…and a voice said “Sgt, that’s my dog and we came in here to escape the rain too.”
    Great, I thought.
    Then he laid the real bombshell on me….”be careful, I dont have him on leash”
    My first thought was how ironic it would be to be killed by an American dog while being a darn dumbie.

  32. I remember driving Col. Sage to the 155th. at Camp Coryell a couple of times when he was leaving on a flight and his driver was not available. His assigned vehicle was a black 64 ford sedan with U S Navy stenciled on it. The power steering did not work on it and it was very hard to steer. Also, I remember seeing Gen. Westmoreland and Fess Parker riding out of the Bungalow compound in this same car. Col Rex R Sage was one of the best officers the Army had. He was well respected by everyone at the bungalow. I had several conversations with him in the front gate shack at the Bungalow at night when he said he wasn’t ready to call it a day. We had a lot of great soldiers in Ban Me Thuot and Those helicopters and crews aboard them did a good job of protecting us all. Thank you all for your service to our country. You were the best.

    • I remember that ugly old Ford well, Jimmy. Col. Skelton preferred a jeep for his rides to the VIP pad, even when he had some serious rank in tow. Lt. Gen. Peers was a frequent visitor during my time, and he was another who put toughness over spit&polish in his priorities. Col. Sage and Gen. An were both very find officers who had not forgotten that they were soldiers. During the unpleasantries at Duc Lap, we spent a lot of hours on C&C there. On several occasions they had us pick up some wounded when we were headed back to refuel. This was despite the fact that we got shot up pretty bad the first time we attempted it.

  33. I served with the 155th AHC from May ’68-May ’69, and commanded the aircraft assigned to Col Skelton for several months. I also served as copilot on numerous missions with Col. Sage and Gen. An. I was assigned a different mission on the day of their tragic crash, but was among the first on the scene. I remember both of those gentlemen fondly and admire their courage to this day. I am very curious as to whatever became of Col. Skelton and Col. Canh, and would appreciate any info. We have a group on Facebook entitled 155th Assault Helicopter Company and any of you who would like to join us there would be more than welcome.

  34. The only MP I remember was a guy named Ken from NYC
    I was in a room directly across from the Conex that was used for a jail.
    And I rode machine gun in the Jeep several times for the MPs.
    Guess I was an adrenaline junkie
    I was there April ’68 but don’t remember Fess Parker being there. Sorry I missed him as I was a big fan.

  35. This website is a great way to link things up, but I wish you could upload photos to it. Ive got camp photos, bungalow pics and whatnot, but no way to share,,,,,,

    • was there in 69 to feb 70 do you have any scanned that could be emailed of take a couple of pictures of them would be great and welcome home!

      • let me see if I can scan them for you. Theyre pretty old. send me an email address so i CAN UPLOAD THEM TO YOU IF IT WORKS Mark

  36. I was only at the division advisory team about three or four times during my tour – mostly as a stop between Song Mau and Plei Ku or en-route to somewhere else. I did not go through as I processed out to go home because someone in the division team was cooking in his room and the lodge caught fire and burned to the ground a couple of months before we invaded Cambodia.

  37. I was in Team 33 in both ’68 and ’69
    We were quartered in the Bungalow and were adjacent to 5th SF teams B23 and B50. Martha Raye was often with them and I think I remember her being shot in the ankle during Tet or soon after but my memory is like a sieve nowadays.
    We supported 5th of the 22nd artillery who employed two eight inchers and two 175mm.
    There was a small MP unit also in the bungalow. I can remember faces but names not so much (two minor strokes in ’02)
    I do remember Henry Barber as Lt Col or Col back then as we were often refered to as Barbers Bandits.
    I don’t ever remember being as wet as when I was Sgt of the guard during the monsoon season in the Bungalow.
    And that “hotel” someone refered to in Ban Me Thuot used to be a house of ill repute.

    • I served with the B Co. 504 m p det. at the Bungalow from Mar. 13 until late Aug. of 1968. We relieved the 218 M P Detachment on Mar.15, 1968. I remember Col Barber, Col Sage, LTC Reed and First Sgt. Witherspoon. I pined a M P arm band on Fess Parker at the front gate of the bungalow in April of 1968 while he was there on a USO tour. I have a great photo of this. Another M P and myself invited him to ride form there to East Field in a M P jeep. He accepted the invite and I am still thinking we were the 3 dumbest people in Viet Nam at the time for taking this trip. If only the V C knew we were on the way it might not have ended well. Any way, Fess enjoyed the ride and he was not captured. RIP FESS PARKER:

      • Does anyone remember me? I was SSGT Gene Roberts. My nickname is cowboy. If anyone out there served with me and can remember details of dates and times of any casualties or incidents that happened, please contact me. I am working on my VA claim and would be more than happy to assist anyone else with their claims as well with a buddy statement. I was on teams 7,12,and 33 during the years of 1965 -1969. I was a heavy transportation advisor.

  38. I was the 23rd ARVN Div Logistics Bn Advisor at Ban Me Thuot in ’70 & ’71. The Bungalow was no longer there and for a short period of time many of us were quartered in a Vietnamese Hotel in Ban Me Thuot. There was Special Forces Team across the fence from our Team where I remember seeing Martha Raye relaxing. Co-located with us was the MACV Provincial Advisor Team. There were some other folks co-located us who didn’t discuss their jobs. North ?? of us was a SOG base which of course we were not allowed entry. It’s difficult remembering other Team members’ names but I’d be glad to hear from anyone stationed during the same time frame or any other.

  39. We are trying to find my wife’s father, a Vietnamese national who was based at the phan thiet army base in 1974. I am hoping someone can possibly give us a helping hand to possible tracing services

    my wife’s father is a Vietnamese national who we believe served the Red cross during the Vietnam war (1973/1974 ), in Phan Thiet, Vietnam. We originally, believed
    he was based out of Phang Rang Air based, and we thought he worked for the American Red cross base, some 150km away from Phan Thiet. However, we think now that he may be have been working for Republic of Vietnam (Việt Nam Cộng Hòa),

    We originally thought his name was Tran Quang Thuc, however, it may be Tran Van Phuc or Tran Quang Phuc

    All my wife knows is that he was involved with carrying injured soldiers to helicopters. My wife’s mother said that he wore a light green 1 piece suit that you zip up from the groin. He also had hat that was light green hat that had a red cross on it – tall square type of hat. Black army type boots. The uniform had a red cross arm band (white color) possibly on the left arm. He is around 160cm tall and wavy hair

    • I was a battalion senior advisor with the 2d Battalion and later the 4th Battalion of the 44th ARVN regiment of the 23d Division in 1969 and 1970. We operated out of Song Mau (regimental Hq), Phan Rang, Phan Ri Cua, Phan Tiet, Hoa Da, Da Lat, and in Cambodia. I also got pulled for two weeks for a Tactical Emergency to take over the 47th regimental advisory team at Kon Tum, Dak To, Ben Het, & Tan Kanh when their entire advisory team was killed or wounded and evacuated.

      • Hey Mike,,, We worked together at Dak TO, Ben Het. I was Deputy Commander Task Force 21.
        We were your friendly engineers 17 klicks outside Ban Me Thout at Camp Swampy on QL21.
        We drained Dak To for you. You had your own swimming pool!

        I was there at MACV conferring with some Full Bull when the fire started.
        That is quite a story, not for general publication.

        A Platoon lead by Jim Hampshire did the clean up, and built the steal huts.

        Hope life is treating you well.

        David McConville

        • I spent less than a week at Tan Kanh. I was flown in from the field south of Song Mau and found that I was the regimental senior advisor because the entire advisory team had been wounded or killed. When I was there, there was an NVA sapper company holed up in the mess hall of the engineer compound at Ben Het. I assume that the good guys were able to take back their mess hall but never heard the outcome. I was busy trying to put in a CA on Rocket Ridge from Firebase 5. It was a mess – ended up with a platoon of Highland Scouts all by their lonesome, one dead pilot and a bunch of torn up hueys all chewed up by 12.7 mm machine gun fire. By the time we sorted this one out, a whole new advisory team showed up and I got to go back to my battalion in the 44th down in Song Mau.

          Retired from the Army, Retired from federal service with the Army as an operations research analyst and software engineer, Retired college professor, Teaching one course at a community college just to keep busy and keep my hand in. I’ll figure out this retirement thing one of these days.

          VA has said they are going to give me new knees, and I’m going in to the hospital tomorrow morning to find out what they’ve decided to do about my back and hips and when I’ll be more of a bionic man than I am now.

    • For Phan Tiet information, I suggest that you look for someone who was an advisor for the 1st or 3d Battalions of the 44th Regiment, or the Ninh Tuan province team during that period. I was in Viet Nam earlier than the requested time, and was in and out of Phan Tiet, but was never based there with either the 2d or 4th regiments.

  40. I have a photo of a sign, My dad was one of the “Founding Fathers” Ban Me Thout, MacV Adv Team 33. This was Probably around 1966. At the time he was Captain Robert L. Ament. Dad has since Passed on but as his Son, would be delighted to hear of anyone who remembers him.

      • Collette,

        See my comments to Michael below. Many photos, unfortunately dad was not too great at writing notes on the back,,,,,

      • Heck no. He was not shy about about telling a good war story, but nothing like that. My Dad was not a big guy, maybe 5-8 and 140-150 pounds at the time. He carried his own S&W .357 as a sidearm because he did not trust the .45 govt issue automatic. Sound like him?

    • It was originally MAAG Advisory Team #33, Banmethuot, Vietnam, Darlac Province, Pleiku, Vietnam, was Province Headquarters-Other MAAG advisory Teams were located at Dalat, Phan Thiet, Phan Rang, Gia Nghia…I was stationed there and we renovated the Bungalow, supervisor was Captain Dominic Pasquariella, Corp of Engineers…I worked with him, drilling water well, casing same, plumbing same, built mess hall, officer billets, each side of the mess hall, immediately north of the Grand Bungalow…Officers were Colonel Madden, Lt Col Sage, Majors Bible and Radosavich, Sgt Majors were Edwards and Cassell, Supply Sgt was Kenneth Pettit, Security Documents Custodian was SP4 Jerome Gohrick and mail clerk, I was company clerk, Radio operators were George Kria and Elmer Buard – There was only 20 of us on the original team,,,Dirt strip east of town was cut in but Captain Pasquariella on a D6 Cat and Grader, Air Vietnam, local civilian airline, flying DC3 operated out of their civilian airport farther east of town….

  41. I too, served with team 33, but I was there in 1967. Spent much time at “The Bungalow” and left for home on Christmas Eve for emergency leave. This was my second tour, having served with the 1st Infantry Division in Lai khe and Di An.

    • Hi Michael,

      Some of the Photographs of my Dad I have are dated 1967, so maybe you did meet? He commanded a Camp with American advisors and a Montagnard force ala the Green Berets. The photos show his camp (two 155’s) and Village. Unfortunately, he was not so great at marking up the backs of the photos with info. His driver was a Black guy named Burton, and another one of his guys was named Tanzola. There is another photo with him and another guy named Ray Vogel. He does have a couple photos of the Bungalow as well, but he must have spent most of his time in the field. It also looks like he was promoted to Major at some point during his tour.

      • I didn’t know your Dad but know exactly where that camp was.
        It was a Montagnard camp at Ban Me Thuot airport. We resurrected that old municipal airport for Air Viet Nam and our own military aircraft.
        There were two SF teams, 5/22 artillery with two eight inchers and two 175s.
        It was rocketed sometime in ’68 and I have Polaroids I took the next morning while it was still smoldering. The camp was totally destroyed.

    • Hi Michael, I too was at the Bungalow in 1967 from July to Sept I was the S-2 Sgt under Major Sidney T. Wienstien (LTG Deceased) I was transferred to TM 30 near Cam Rahn Bay in Sep of that year. I don’t remember to much (The Major had us working 12 to 14 hrs a day 7 days a week.

      • Rick, I was at the Bungalow from about april 67 until mar 68 I also served under Maj Weinstein, I was a sp 4 at the time, I was a 96b20 also drove for the Maj. Ban me thout was a good place to serve, Hated to hear that the Bungalow burned, It was called the best kept secret in Viet Nam,

        • I was a CI agent in the G2 with Maj. Weinstein, and went out with the Montagnards recondo company . I was there for tet . Also there when we got mortared that killed a guy. Also there was a Lt. Floyd and another Lt. . and 2-3 Spcs . Was only there a few months and left June 68

  42. In 69 and 70, I was a MACV team 33 battalion senior advisor for the 2d and 4th Battalions, 44th Regiment, 23d ARVN Division. I spent time in Ban Me Thout, and was pulled out of the field and sent to Tan Kanh in Kontum Provence when the entire advisory team of the 47th regiment (independent regiment) had been killed or wounded by mortar and rocket attacks until a new advisory team could be re-constituted, but the main stomping ground for the 44th was not either BMT or Kontum province. Our primary AO’s were Phan Rang, Song Mau, Phan Tiet, Dalat and even Cambodia.

    Care to expand your Scope?

    David M. Dacus, MAJ INF, retired

    • My Senior Advisory from May 1963 until I left May 20, 1964, was Colonel Francis J Madden, super officer, very athletic, authorized our building a tennis court, in effort to stop the excessive drinking…He authorized the mess hall building, my texas size barbque pit, both the officers club and the nco club….He was very directive in his efforts and his counterpart with the ARVN 23rd Infantry Division was great and effective

      • I just located and talked to Jerome Gohrick, member of advisory team #33, today….Talked quite a while and he told me that he and his wife went back to Banmethuot, Vietnam, 5 years ago, enjoyed the scenery, lots gone, lots new, stayed there 3 days, great trip….He and his wife liven in Las Cruces NM – He was our classified documents clerk and mail clerk while there

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