Team 21 Pleiku

MACV Team 21 – Pleiku.

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  1. Rick
    I was a 20 year old 1st Lt with team 21 in 68-69. Strange times for all of us but grateful for those of us that made it home. I was in Pleiku in 2015, absolutely nothing was the same. Pleiku is a big city, all the way through Kontum to Dak To.
    Be safe
    Pete Lawrenson

    • Pete, thanks for your reply. I’m sure the earlier times were worse. thank you for your service. A Lt. In G2 was injured in Sept. 71 when MSG Malone was killed by the rocket. I think his name was Machette. I wasn’t in the office by then. God was watching over all of us who made it through.

      • Rick,
        Bill Crane here. MSG Malone ‘ s name was Felix’s. It was September 21, 1971 when he was killed. I don’t think my email will post in this comment. So, let’s try this and you will have it.
        crane1947@)gmail.com

        • Bill, that’s the e-mail I tried but I’ll resend. You’re correct on the date of the rocket attack. I think there were 3 hits that day. You’re right about Capt. Sovine being CO. I had several discussions with him.

      • Rick, I was the 1st Lt, who replaced the Lt who was injured in the rocket attack. I commend you for remembering names after all these years. MSG Malone was a good man,a veteran of 29 yrs and as he told me he was on his last tour to help put one of his daughters through college.I had just arrived in country and I asked him how things were and he told ,”Sir it’s going to be just like your tour in Germany”. A week later he was dead. I stil feel bad about it. I was lucky to have escaped injury because I had just left the quonset hut about 10 min earlier.
        I was still there for the Easter offensive and on duty the night John Paul Van was killed traveling to Kontum.

        • Paul, thanks for your reply. Do you remember names of the LTC and the Major in G2? I’m not too sure on names but I think Ralph Machette was the LT that you replaced. I stated before that a friend and I were on the walkway just past the G2 office when the rocket hit. We were knocked down by the blast just past a stepdown and the shrapnel went over us. One guy in the first barracks was hit but not seriously. We got a total of 3 rockets on the compound that day. I still think of MSG Malone. I guess I was blessed to be there when I was, kinda like the eye of the storm because I know it got bad in spring 72. Thank you for your service.

      • I was there in sept 71 when we were rocketed .we were up next to those big antennas.and our barracks were with some Green Berets . I wish i could remember the ones name , think he was Italian and a lawyer too. Great great guy !

        • The big antennas were part of a tropospheric scatter site which we used to directly with higher headquarters. In the G3Air Advisor section we used the site to convey Arc Light targets to not only the various B-52 bases in Okinawa and Thailand but also to MACV the Pentagon and the White House. The antennas projected your voice and message to the troposphere and scattered to be reassembled by other sites. We were told it could not be intercepted. You had to have a Top Secret Crypto clearance to use them.

    • Pete, I’d love to see Vietnam now. It is a beautiful place. I’ve seen docs on TV and I don’t think the people cared about politics as long as the war was over. I’ll never get back again but I hope the country stays peaceful from now on. I hope all my friends there are doing well.

      • Rick
        I don’t think the earlier or later times were easier, the manner of the war shifted. I was in Dak To in May 69 when the G5 LTC got killed by a rocket when his chopper landed. Don’t remember his name, I didn’t know him.
        In 1998 I met a former NVA soldier that actually fought against us in 69. Small world.
        Be safe.

  2. Thought I’d leave another post here. Most of you guys seem like officers or career NCO’s. I appreciate your service. I was a 20 year old PFC when I got to Pleiku in April 71. I was anti-war and anti-army but I volunteered for Vietnam just to see for myself. I value my time there. I worked in G2 and one day the LTC in my office had to go to Kontum for a meeting and asked me to come along. I thought it was for fun until he put me in the door gunner seat of the Huey and told me to stay alert! Thank God nothing happened. The landscape was amazing despite the pockmarks and scorching of war. Pleiku always reminded me of Tennessee with the rolling hills and all. We had a lot of great musicians in Team 21. We were jamming most every nite. I was in one of the chicken house barracks at the bottom of the hill from the HQ bldg. We sat out in the yard smoking dope most every evening watching gunships work out in the distance. Me and my friend Tim went to Hong Kong on R&R. We both bought guitars on arrival and took them with us wherever we went. They loved American music and all took good care of us. Like I said before I got caught up in the drugs over there. I’m not especially proud of my service but I tried to do the best I could. Thank you all for your service and welcome home.

  3. I was with team 21 HQ set nov 68-feb 69 then went to the ranger advisory team. Man Marvin Boroski was the Det CO, a great guy.
    Ssgt Gary Littrell came to the group sometime in the summer of ’69. If I recall correctly he was with the 23rd BDQ and I was with the 11th. His action for the Medal of Honor took place after I left in Nov 69. The senior advisor of the Ranger team was LTC Jack Daniel, a legend in the making.
    Was in Pleiku March 2015, a high city of 850,000. The MACC compound is an army base but no visitors allowed.

    • Mr. Lawrenson,
      Do you remember Maj. Washington. He was my father. Since his death i have obtained his Marine and Army service records and i am trying to make sense of his time in Vietnam. The records indicate he was in Phu my and Pleiku as a MACV advisor. If you have any memory of him i would appreciate you sharing them with me.
      Thank you, John Washington

    • Hi Pete
      Did you remember The Battle of Ngok Renang (Hill 882) Benhet -Kontum May 22-29, 1969?
      Where are Sgt Walker, Sgt Attaya and Colonel Jack Daniel now?
      I was a commander of The 1/11 ARVN Ranger Company that time.
      Long
      long82bdq@yahoo.com

    • Hi Pete
      Do you know where’s LTC Daniel now?
      I was a commander of the 1/11 ARVN Ranger Company that time.
      My friend Sgt. Gooddell with me for longtime (1969-1970), you know him?
      Long

  4. I was in Advisory Team 21, Nov 1965-Nov 1966. Does anyone remember our interpreter? Other people I served with were George Oliver and Hank Hosman. We were signal advisors.

      • Hi Art,

        My grandfather was there from 62-68 at Doi Duc Me. I believe he was in team 25? His last name have a “son” in it as I was told.

        Anyone comes to mind? I even process a DNA kit, ancestry link to the Crandall family, but I was told could be an “Alton Nicholson”; but I can’t confirm the name.

        Thanks,
        Annie

  5. Getting some posting from the Team 21 Brothers. Great, to say the least. We getting old Brother we need to leave our story for others. Will sit down soon try to remember more of tour there before leaving. Keep the Faith, be safe and may everyday be more fruitful with life than the the day before.

    • Hello,

      I hope this post finds everyone well. I am looking for information on my paternal grandfather whom was stationed in Pleiku from 1962-1968 when he passed on his last mission. He was a sergeant radio operator. When he passed, my Vietnamese grandmother was notified and his tags and military items were given to her. He was in his late 40s when he passed. She said he was stationed around Pleiku, but not at Camp Holloway. He was in Vietnam in 62 when she met him, got married in 64 which allowed him to leave base, and had my mom in 66. He was also injuried on his lower left knee in 66-67 which he was on medical leave for about 6 months or so. He spent two Christmas with my mom. Does anyone know who he is or his name? I have been researching about the war, stalking the Vietnam veteran wall, and browsing online for any lead, but am not closer to a name. Does anyone recall my grandfather? Or do you have any pix that you can personally share with me so I can show my grandmother?

      Thanks in advance for all your help. Please contact me at anniehoale@gmail.com

  6. Hello my Brothers,
    I was assigned to Team 21 and worked in the Security Platoon. I have read the post on this site and much comes to mind. I was there at the main compound in 71 – 72 year. I left and was reassigned to Team Can Tho. The Chinese Nungs was a force of 61 people assigned to do security for the compound. We did use the Montagnards firing range located out from Pleiku at their compound for weapon training. I recall often MSG Filex Malone who was killed during a 122 rocket attack on the compound and SFC Frederick Jones who was killed by a POW who had escaped from the POW Camp outside the main compound going toward Camp Holliway. The Nung was a solid group of CIDG Troops who for years had worked with many different type special op units in Nam. I seen this site and thought I see if I could reach some of the brothers.

    • I was assigned to Team 21 from August 72 – March 73; in the G2. I went each evening to the G3 operations bunker to collect reports from the field and prepared the daily INTSUM. Pulled radio watch occasionally overnight and remember well the strong coffee made by the Chinese Nungs. Also went to the Montagnards’ firing range once. While there, one of the security force fired his weapon afield of the target range and (consider the odds) wounded an ARVN across the lake. An ARVN jeep arrived and they took him into custody. Never did learn his fate.

    • Hey brother, I also served on team 21 with the security team in 69-70. Was that big deep whole in the ground on post no. 3 still there when you got there? I hated that post, it was scary as hell at night. I used to get up in that cement bunker to keep away from the snakes. Yes those were the good old days, you had to stay high 24 hours a day just to make it though the year. Oh well my friend, take it easy and remember to step light.

      • Hey Al, your name is familiar but can’t place the face. I was Team 21 Det XO 5/69 to 5/70. LT Izzard ((Bill). II was best buddies w Top Sgt Scott and we maintained a relationship in the States for many year til his passing. I presented the flag at his funeral to his wife Tuyet. He was in NJ and I in Mass. Other names you may recall might be Mike Winfield and Floyd Joswick from the orderly room. We still stay in touch to this day. I remember SGT Tyson from the motor pool and SGT Fidelle from the mess hall. They were good days that I w cherish forever. I left the Team HQ after 7 mos to be advisor to the 68th RF/PF Batallion working w SGT Jackson. If anybody on this blog recalls me or my buddies please give a shout. So Al, be well and let me know if you remember me.

          • Hello. When I was with the 68th RF/PF Batallion I worked with SGT Jackson. He was a great guy and we worked well together. We were the only US assigned to them. Great memories. One in particular was when he and I were making a helicopter landing into some hostile fire. The chopper got about 10 feet off the ground and the pilot yelled jump now. Sgt Jackson said “after you sir”. Ha ha. When I rotated out in May 1970, SGT Jackson gave me a record album, Bridge Over Troubled Water, Simon and Garfunkel. Please tell me more about him. What was his home town. Is he still with us. And if so, how do I get in touch with him? Thanks for reaching out to me. Be well!!!!!!

      • Hey Al, I remember you for sure. I was the Det XO and security platoon leader from May 69 to about Nov 69. I worked closely with 1SGT George Scott and we remained best of friends back in the states for many years. I also remained friends back in the states with Floyd Joshwick and Mike Winfield from the orderly room. We visited often and are still in touch til this day. Later I became the advisor to the 68th RF/PF Battalion. I took the M 16 one night from one the security guards who had smoked dope from the breach of the rifle. He was passed out. Later the next day he came to me to say someone stole his weapon from the mess hall. Other names that you may recall Capt Dobbs, Maj Borowski, SGT Fidelle from the mess hall Good days and great memories. More later. Where do you live? I’m in Maine.

        Bill Izzard (1stLT back then)

    • Hey Bill we must have bumped shoulders. I served with Team 21 in G2 section after our unit 55th MI Detachment 1FFV in Nha Trang disbanded. I was there from Aug ’71 – Mar ’72. Yes I remember well of MSG Malone. He was a very good man. After the rocket attack, a group of us guys had to go in and clean up the destruction. I have a couple pictures to remind me.

      • Dan:

        I believe you are the guy that told me the soil in Pleiku was like 11 o’clock soil in Louisiana. I was in Nha Trang beginning in January 1971 – then we moved to Pleiku and I stayed there through January 1972.

        I live near and stay in touch with Marc Schulkin – if you remember him. Also, I have seen John Gilbert on a rare occasion, but not for a long time.

        I hope all has gone well for you during this past 46 years.

        Bill Jenson

        • Hi Bill,
          Sure nice to hear from you after all these years. And yes, we still have 11 o’clock soil. You still exercising with the weights. I have a picture of you working out. Still remember some of the gang. Tom Marsden, ? Washington, SGT Harris, LT Barr, Don Seifert, Bob ?, Gary ?. And there are a few more. My last month before I left Nam I was made SOG of the compound and that was every night. (sundown to sunup very exciting)
          I’m retired now and staying busy. Hope everything on your end going well. Nice hearing from you.
          Everyone still call me Dan

          • Dan:

            I haven’t lifted weights in a long time. I m now a fat old man (70) who should exercise more than I do. All is well with me and my family (wife, two children, five grandchildren). I will join you in the ranks of the retired soon – maybe the end of the year. Are you still in Plaqumines (pardon the spelling) Parish? I will ask Marc Schulkin if he keeps in touch with any of the people you mentioned. I certainly remember some of them.

            Bill Jenson

            • Hi Bill

              Nice hearing from you. No, I live in the city of Plaquemine. Plaquemine Parish is located at the southern tip of Louisiana on both sides of the Mississippi River. I live about 10 miles south Baton Rouge, La. My family (wife, two daughters and a grandson) is doing well and growing. My youngest daughter is due any day now with a little girl. Hey Bill, if you would like to send me your e-mail address I can e-mail you some photos when we served together. My e-mail is dweber20@cox.net. Glad to hear you are retiring soon. Sure that you will enjoy it.

              Dan Weber

        • Bill:
          I am so glad I found this site and thus reconnected with you. See my comments below in response to Bill Crane, whom I don’t remember. Are you retired…the last I knew you were a gub’mint lawyer in D. C. I am still practicing law in Little Rock. Email me and let’s talk some more:
          dmpwell44@gmail.com

        • Bill Jenson;
          My original reply apparently went to Bill Crane so I am resending.
          I am so glad I found this site and thus reconnected with you. See my comments below in response to Bill Crane, whom I don’t remember. Are you retired…the last I knew you were a gub’mint lawyer in D. C. I am still practicing law in Little Rock. Email me and let’s talk some more:
          dmpwell44@gmail.com

      • I was in Pleiku April-December 1971. I was a clerk-typist in the G-2 office. I started in the big house on top of the hill. A perfect target for rockets. Then we moved down the hill to the quonset hut. I wasn’t a model soldier. Went on rehab in September and was reassigned to Security Platoon. A friend and I were walking past G2 down the hill when that rocket hit, the blast knocked us down. MSG Malone was a wonderful man and just wanted to get his kids through school. Had I still been working in G2 I might not be here now. I don’t remember a lot of the names but I remember the times good and bad.

        • Rick,
          Glad you posted! Yep I too have a difficult time remembering names. But, the bond never goes away. MSG Malone was a true soldier and was well respected by all. Yep, the big house was a sitting target for the 122s to come in un-welcomed and causing that moment of silence before….you get it! It been 50+ years and we still relive our experiences daily. I remember as clear now when I stepped off the Pan Am bird in June 1966 in Saigon to start my first tour with 178TH Assault Support Helicopter Company. Chinook out fit. Stay 18 months and then several years later 1971, assigned to TM 21. When I left TM 21 I ended up briefly in Can Tho headed to TM 75 in Dong Tam ( I think was TM #). MACV decided to curtail us and home we come. Actually only spent 10 months of the 12 months. One name just hit me. Captain So vine I believe commanded the HQ Team 21. Well let me go and if you get a chance email me at crane1947@gmail.com. Welcome Home my Brother!

      • Hello Dan. I got on this site because you and Bill Crane remembered MSG Malone. If you came to G2 in a August you might have been my replacement. I was clerk from April 71 til I went on drug rehab in late August or early Sept. Tried to e-mail Bill Crane but no response. I worked daily with MSG Malone. He was a good man and it hurt when he was lost. Not especially proud of my service. I got caught up in the drugs like so many others but I tried to do my job as best as I could. Vietnam was an experience and I’m thankful we made it through.

        • Hey Rick. I think you are correct about me being your replacement. I was on leave in August ’71. When I got back our unit was already reassigned to Team 21. I took over as G2 clerk. I’ll never forget the bunker located in the adjacent room. Yes MSG Malone was a very good person. He was in Nam for only a short time, from Jun ’71 until the rocket attack of Sept 21, ’71. For such a short time, he made a lot of friends and was well respected. I have a lot of memories. Welcome home.

          • Dan, thanks for your reply. I remained in Team 21 til December 71, first in Security Platoon and later in the craft shop. After drug rehab I got caught in a random drug screen and second strike you’re out I got a general discharge. Later they upgraded it to Honorable for some legal reason but I was just glad to be home. Glad you made it back too.

    • I was an intelligence briefing officer at MR 2, first at Nha Trang and then at Pleiku from March -November 1971, working with Team 21.
      I too remember MSG Malone; I worked with him The rocket which killed him exploded on a path that I walked on daily to go to the secure intelligence briefing; I was on R&R then. I also recollect that a Major balked at accompanying Malone’s body to Saigon or Cam Ranh…and was told in no uncertain terms by his superior to do so.
      I have a more poignant memory of Jones. As a courts martial I was assigned to review and gather his personal effects for return to his family. There is more to the story, but I won’t put it here.
      My memory of the Nungs is not as upbeat. One night I had officer of the guard duty. When I climbed in one tower the guard was fast, fast asleep….not a comforting sight.

      • Hello David,
        Thanks for checking in. Yep MSG Malone was a first class man in many respects. Shame on someone who would not step up to the plate and render assistance escorting to Malone. Yes the Nungs played a vital role in security. We went and brought the Nungs Force of 61 back from Nhra Trang along with family members. One reason was the post security was awful and it did not suprise me you caught someone sleeping. I never experienced that with the Nungs. As for Jones, I understand. I only knew him as an Advisor to QC….I think! He was around the club from at times. If I remember correctly the Corp Advisor was BG Ware and later replaced by John Paul Vann. I think Vann died in a chopper crash later in Kontum. He was a quite a character with in his on respect I read the book “Bright Shining Star about him. He was in the Delta Region for some time. All the recent post to this site have been very interesting. Have actually been very informed about Team 21 ‘ s history. I left 21 and went Can Tho with instruction to leave there and go to Dong Tam in the Delta. But the good Lord seen was back to Saigon with 2 month curtailment. Well brother welcome hone, take care and be safe! Crane!

  7. I was with adv. team 21 assigned to security plt.. From Nov 67-Nov 68. I was responsible for maintains weapons in the bunkers and conex adjacent to barracks. Also ran the movies every night. Helped build the pool and filled about a million sandbags. My team rebuilt the bunkers, filled the open sewer ditches , cleared the perimeter and installed the lighting around the compound. I remember “Top” Scott well. I served as permenant captain for about my last five months. Tet 68 was a wake up for a lot of us as we rarely say “Charlie” just received his rockets. I left there as a sgt. e-5 and went back to Las Vegas, my wife and job at TWA and have had only one contact with a fellow team member, Sp-4 Shennamen. Sp-4 Sudlesky was Kia on a joint LP and another Sp-4 was wounded. Was part of the recovery team that assisted graves reg. To pull them out. Had to leave my crossbow behind as only got it night before I caught flight to Saigon for outprocessing. I am 73 now and have forgotten a lot of names. Col. Barnes ( promoted to brig. Gen) was II corps commander then. My nco roommate was Sgt. Ventura (Vinny) from St. Croix

    Sgt. Gordon Gray
    Adv. Tm. 21. 1967-68

    • Sgt. Gray,
      I was assigned to Team 21 from 52d Sig. Btn. in Nha Trang for signal support just after the pool was filled. If you ran the movies, I must have rubbed shoulders with you. I worked 8 pm to 8 am in the commo bunker doing secure teletype comms. My roomie was named Mike, but I cannot recall his last name. I was there from around Oct. ’67 to June ’68 I think. I remember hiking down that dirt road that ran straight out the gate over to the Pleiku AB for shows. Also recall being shot at by perimeter guys from that water tower down near the highway. Did you happen to know a SP4 Kim? One last thing – I remember a mongel dog we named Heidi, and a monkey chained to a tall pole back near the movie screen. Any of that ring a bell?

      SGT. Jack Carney

    • I was at the headquarters/city hall in Pleiku. July ’67-July’68. I was a radio operator until Colonel Gibbs found out I could type. Sp4 Ron Petrowski (Detroit) was the clerk that showed me the ropes of the job before he went home. We lived in a house that bordered Madam Nu’s summer home. There was a MP unit next door. Also a milsap group behind us. Sgt Gay was our mess Sargent and did a lot of bartering for some good meals prepared by our Vietnamese kitchen help. One of the help was Than who road his Honda to work. He later had to leave because he got drafted. (We tried to ‘fight’ it so we could keep him.) Sp4 Dan Paddock was one of my room mates. He was there around the same time +- a month, as you, Gordon. I also worked with Major Paul Led better, who smoked the cigars with the wooden tips. (I have other memories of him.). Then there is Captain Roberts – G2. I typed up his Purple Heart forms after he got hurt during TET. I worked with some civilians, too. I left as a Sargent E5. 366 days because of the leap year.
      Welcome home!

      • Hugh, I was assigned to Team 21 Jun 68 to Jun 69 as a clerk typist, working under SFC Mitsunori Domai & Lt Pearce. LTC Eugene R Bauer was CO, Maj Martin J Vanderwende was XO. Sgt Gay was the best mess sgt in VN. Sector compound was next door to Madam Nu’s summer home . Heyward Jeffers was a RTO, Glen Sucaw was the mail clerk. Had several sub-sectors, one of which was Plei Do Lim. Can anyone help me recall some memories from almost 50 years ago??

          • Art
            You arrived as I left Plié Do Lim now sure of extr date but was home by May of 67. When I left Maj Scott was in command I was Radio Operator

            • Bob
              My name is Tim I was in Plei Do Lim in sept 69 to oct 69 as a radio operator, I was transferred to Le Trung for the rest of my tour I don’t remember the guys who where out there, but I do remember they had a jeep with a machine gun mounted on it reminding me of the show The Rat patrol, Glad you made it Home , Tim Dufour

            • There were not many of us, a total of eleven but the patrols were constant. I have yet found anyone i was associated with then. I am now over seventy and for all i know they may all be gone. May the grace of god be with them. Thanks for your response.

              • I only know of two people who served at the Ranger Group when I did. Major Otis (Bain) Ashley and then Ssgt Gary Littrell. Ssgt Littrell was awarded the MOH for action with the 23rd Ranger Battalion in May 70. He stayed active and retired asa CSM. The senior advisor st the time I was there wasLTC Jack Daniel, a Ranger’s Ranger. He passed in June 2015.

    • Hello Gordon, just found this site and saw your post. I was advisor to the 37th Arty Bn (ARVN) 12/67 – 12/68 We were located at the Bn HQ west of Pleiku. Have been trying to find my Team members – Sgts Kinsey and Campbell and 2nd LT Brown. Wondering if you might recall Kinsey and/or Campbell. Kinsey had been there for over a year when I arrived and stayed on after I left. He was a rather imposing figure to say the least – by that I mean BIG.

      Bill Thomas

  8. James Willison: I was with team 21 from early June ’65 to late May ’66 and knew a guy named Willison pretty well. He was about 6 feet tall with red hair. He was from California. We were initially in the security platoon then I worked in the orderly room.
    In Nov ’65 he persuaded us to volunteer to help out the First Cav at the Ia Drang Valley battle…what a weird night that was!
    We went to Bangkok for R and R together in February or March ’66: I still have a few pictures of that trip and one of us launching that old wooden boat at Lake Bien Ho.
    If that was you, great to re-connect with you. You can reach me at mdashe@aol.com.

  9. We may have even seen each other on the Team 21 compound; I arrived July 1970.
    I heard about the currency exchange my first week in country. I was offered about a grand in MPC for my Nikon by a gentleman of the
    Asian Persuasion. Fortunately, a GI with very faded jungle fatigues (unlike my dark green FNG garb) chased the guy away and explained why the money offered me was worthless. He was also the first to share the legend (as in bogus tale) of the two grunts who memorialized C-Day by swiping Monopoly money from Special Services and “spending” lavishly at various recreational establishments downtown.
    Some of the guys I worked with included Eric Williams, Dave Koseruba, Hank Nevin, Ken MacNevin and Jack Howard, who worked at the
    AFVN Pleiku detachment.
    I keep asking forum guys if they know the story about the great water pipe scandal during construction of bases around Pleiku. Thus far,
    no one’s taken the bait.
    –jeff in Olympia

    • I worked at the Letrung MACV compound with 2 mat teams that work with the local mostly Montagnards people I new a couple of the radio operators at the MACV compound in Pleiku, my first station was out in plei do lim small unit with just one mat team, but I was transferred to Letrung after 1 month. So long ago I don’t rememlber the names at the pleiku unit. Our mat team leaders were Lt. Vogel and Capt Pearson.

      • Tim. What year did you serve in Pli Do Lim I was there 66 67 took over from the 5th at that time was lead by Maj Scott. Bob Galante

        • Bob I was there for a short time in sept. 1969, I was transferred to the Le trung and remained there until I left nov. 1970, I do not remember the guys there as I was only there for a short time, but I do recall there jeep set-up with a machine gun tri-pod, It was quiet when I was out there I think when we traveled to town we went by the 4 th Division. Tim Dufour

          • Tim
            I started in kontum and when MACV TOOK OVER the A camp frim the 5th.i was part of the team that was 66 and I extended and left in early 67.

            • Bob I was told that Pli Do Lim was a special force camp in the early years, and that Adam saddler was station out there (He wrote and sang The Ballet Of The Green Beret). Glad to know you made it Home. Tim

              • Hi Tim, I’m sorry to jump into your conversation but I was wondering if you happen to remember Major Ralph Walden. He was my father and he was an advisor for Team 21 from about November of 64 and returned home Apr 1966. He was tall thin dark hair and had a Bob Hope ski nose. He was there for the ambush of the convoy on 1 Jun 65 and raid on the compound. His CO, Maj. Dibbard was killed during the ambush. My father received the Bronze Star w/ V device for that day. I’m just trying to find anyone that might have known him. My name is Cheryl. Let me know if you do. Thanks! And welcome home!

                • Cheryl your father was over there during the early years, my time there was from sept 1969to nov.1970, I was a radio operator , I have notice other post on this site I hope some of the other guys might remember his time over there, Thank you for your Dads Service, sounds like they had a lot of action in that area. Wish you well Tim Dufour

        • WI rotated out of Plea do Lin in Feburary 67 radio operator maj. Scott was camp commander and Capt. Tate was Second in command.

        • Art I was in plei Do Lim around sept to oct of 1969 only there for about 1 month small unit out there I came in as a radio operator, they transferred me to the Letrung district where I spent the rest of my tour. My memory of the plei Do Lim was the jeep with the machine gun mounted on it. I don’t remember the guys out there, was such a short stay. Glad you made it home , best regards TimDufour

          • Thanks Tim, I remember the jeep. I had an 81mm mortar out side the entrance of my bunker. Rather odd place for it. As for the jeep i traded it for six cases of T bone steaks. The airforce mess sergeant thought it was a good deal it had a blown head gasket and the barrel on the machine-gun was a smooth bore no rifling at all. We acquired it from property disposal but we got a little use out of it anyway. If you remember when you came through our gate there was no buildings at all, we lived underground. The first bunker to the left was where we kept the prisoners but we had an interpreter named chuck that didn’t like prisoners. The one thing that i will never forget is the damn RED dirt, it was still coming out of my skin 3 months after i returned home. I also have to say that the Montangards we lived with were good people and kept us up to speed on NVA in the area. I was also a PRC25 operator and an impress fund agent. We had a sand bag machine that came from the 4th Div.camp Enarie and i used the montagnards kids to fill the sand bags. I would have to go to camp Enarie to get the piasters to pay the kids. One day i received a box through the mail and it had cool-aid in it and once the kids tasted it they wanted the cool-aid instead of the money. I gave them the cool-aid anyway . There were times that i would have given a months pay just for a glass of ice tea. I’m over seventy now and 90% disable but i still remember the things that brought joy to me when i thought i would never see home again.

      • Tim, do you recall the year you were there? I was at plei do lim and i remember the names Lt. Vogel and capt pearson this is stunning as when i read your comment the names hit me. I was there jun67 thru july 68. Regards, Art Pic 25 operator.

  10. I was told by a Christian missionary (American) that the montagnards came down either from North Viet Nam or China several hundred years ago. If you notice their physical features, they appear more aboriginal than asian.
    As to interaction between Vietnamese and Montagnards, I was not aware of any interaction between ARVN veitnamese and montagnards, although there was plenty of interaction between US troops especially Special Forces, and the Montagnards.
    The Vietnamese civilians and Montagnards did not get along and discrimination by Vietnamese against Montagnards was obvious. One day while walking through the Pleiku Central outdoor Market I witnessed Vietnamese throwing garbage and trash on two Montagnard women, one of whom was carrying her infant in a sling, and yelling at them. When the Vietnamese saw us nearby, they stopped. The Montagnards seldom went into Pleiku.
    There seemed to be little interaction between the Montagnard workers in our compound and the Vietnamese workers, although interaction between Americans and Montagnards was frequent and pleasant.

    • I don’t believe the missionary was correct. He may have confused the Hmong, who were more oriental-Chinese looking, and were more in Cambodia and Laos. The two theories I had heard were the Montagnards were descended from (1) India, travelled by foot over the years to Vietnam. and (2) from Polynesia. travelled by water. Both are plausible, certainly looked more so than Chinese. They were called “nomadic”, but really were pushed to the mountainous regions as a last hope. I’d like to see some DNA research on it. There were 9 tribes in VN, we (MAT 37, out of Letrung, 1970-71) worked with 3 of the tribes, the Bahnaar, Jarai, and Rhade. Great people.
      One of my neighbors here in Maine ‘sponsored’ a young Montagnard refugee here after the war. He wound up getting his doctorate in Physics. Amazing, after coming out of a society one step from the stone age. Just goes to show…..
      Today, the Montagnards are grouped under the name “Degar”, meaning mountain people. The Vietnamese are slowly killing them off and stealing more of their lands. They can, at least in part, blame the Jane Fondas and Tom Haydens of the U.S., for our not supporting them and leaving them stranded and screwed. Monty Vogel

  11. Thanks. The Vietnamese guys I talked to didn’t know about the spiritual center. But, few of them had visited the village.
    I knew that Montagnards hated VC, but In your experience, were there Montagnard villages or military units that worked effectively with the ARVN? I liked the Montenards and thought their village may have offered some protection to our compound.
    I caveat my remarks with the knowledge that most of what I thought I knew came from imperfect sources: tall tales by GIs and
    my very poor grasp of the Vietnamese language.
    One thing I found quite interesting. The Vietnamese I “interviewed” offered great stories about the country’s history and heroes.
    But when I asked where these remarkable people came from, I was consistently told “they come from the north part.” I didn’t see
    that as particularly auspicious for us.
    I promise not to ask the 10,000 questions that have lingered with me over the years…but you’ve certainly prompted me to begin
    some long-overdue research.
    I’d tell you some folklore about water pipes on the compound, but then you’d think that I prefer a good story to actual facts.
    –jeff young

  12. We had a USMC ANGLICO detachment working with us in the II Corps TOC until early 1967, (I think ANGLICO stands for Army Navy Gum Liaison Company.) We assigned them targets along the coast. The VC figured out the naval guns were flat trajectory and dug in on the reverse slopes where they could not be hit by direct fire. The Marines tried high trajectory fire but the shells tumbled and were wasted so they left. No Marine infantry units in the area when I was there from 11/66 to 11/67.

    We had low ranking Montagnards working in the TOC and also in the compound. If memory serves me correctly the PleiKu province Chief was a Montagnard.

  13. Thank you James L Willison, I was told a story over the thanksgiving weekend about my Uncle and the Montagnards , do you know if any marines were in the area?

  14. Michael Adkins thank you for the information, I was told a story over thanksgiving about my Uncle and some Montagnards, do you know if any marines where in this area?

    • There were no marines in the area while I was there in 1972 and 1973. The only American combat unit left in the entire military region was the 17th Aviation Group. They redeployed stateside and were deactivated at Oakland, CA in March 1973; same month I came home.

    • Not sure if Team 21 worked with Montagnards. During my first tour, we had a Mike Force set up a temporary camp just outside our base camp at Gia Lhe just west of QL 1, 9 km south of Hue City in MR 1 in the spring of 1968. MIKE Force was composed of the Bahnar, Hmong, Nung, Jarai, and Khmer Krom minorities, and other members of the Degar peoples, also known as Montagnards. MIKE Force was active under MACV, Army Special Forces, from 1964 to 1970 and under ARVN until 1974. MIKE Force waged special warfare against the Viet Minh, NLF (Viet Cong), and PAVN (North Vietnamese Army) liberation forces in various detachments, volunteering in support of MIKE Force missions.

      MIKE Force’s mission was to act as a country-wide quick reaction force for securing, reinforcing, and recapturing CIDG A Camps, as well as to conduct special reconnaissance patrols. Search and rescue and search and destroy missions were also assigned. The conventional unit alternative to Special Forces detachments like MIKE was Tiger Force, which was primarily tasked with counter-guerrilla warfare against enemies from behind their lines that emphasized body-count rather than force multiplication.

      • Just before joining this forum a couple weeks ago, I showed my wife some photos I shot at the Montengnard village close to Bien Ho lake in
        1971..
        First people I’d ever seen who had houses (huts) built atop rough-hewn beams, sorta like pilings. Although there was a serious
        language barrier, I thought I was told that some of the elevated huts were for the remains of deceased village members. May have
        been true, if only because I didn’t see any sort of “yard” cemeteries in the area.
        I was told there were MIC forces in the area, but didn’t see any U.S. advisors there.
        A couple culture shock events in the first few days.
        –I made a unit trash run with a couple guys in my unit. I was that when entering the dump, never stop the truck — that it would be
        mobbed by a horde of scavengers. We drove swiftly through the dump and pushed the garbage out the back. We were followed by
        scavengers, running as fast as they could, with some attempting to jump in the back. Pretty sobering sight for a guy who grew up in
        the suburbs and had never witnessed the sort of poverty so common in many other countries.
        –The morning after a rocket attack, a couple friends woke me up and hustled me down to the Team 21 compound club. A 122 was
        stuck like an arrow in the wall just a couple feet down from the top of the roof. I can’t recall if anyone was in the club when the
        rockets came in.
        –I also experienced a “C-Day” in which all military personnel on the compound were herded over to a couple finance officers.
        Simultaneously, all Vietnamese workers were temporarily barred from the compound.
        We surrendered all our Military Payment Certificates (MPC) and were issued an equal amount of MPC script that was
        either printed on a different color paper or perhaps had different images imprinted on them. MPC and (forbidden) U.S.
        currency was the backbone of Vietnam’s black market. In one swift act, all “old” MPC held by the Vietnamese became
        worthless. Something like our “Crash of 1929” occurred every few months.
        –When pulling guard duty, we always brought flashlight or whatever batteries were used to power the “clicker” in our
        Claymores. Not unusual for us to find the clickers empty. Two theories: (1) they were removed by VN working on the
        compound (2) they were filched by GIs to power their radios while on watch.
        Best wishes,
        Jeff in Olympia, WA

        • Elevated hut in center of the Montagnard village near lake Bien Ho, according to our Montagnard laborer Rochom Sot, was the political/religious center of village, and the spirits of the village lived there. That’s where we drank rice win from large urns. They called it the Happy House.

        • My name is Tim DuFour I was a radio operator at MACV Letrung and I remember the currency change I was in Driving back from pleiku to Letrung when that took place and yes many Vietnamese had the forbidden MPC currency . I was flagged down a couple of times by the Vietnamese to exchange it for them as I was in route to my to my unit for the exchange. The Montagnards were in our district and we work with them on Village security and operations. Sept 1969 to nov 1970

    • I was in Pleiku from May 22, 1965 to May 21, 1966 and team would send occupational’s to speak with them. We had a good relationship with them. They were very dependable and wouldn’t run off like the Vietnamese ARVN did.

    • I was with Team 21 from June ’65 thru May ’66 during which there was considerable positive interaction with the Montagnards.
      There was a Montagnard village about 2 kilometers from the Team 21 compound, near Lake Bien Ho. A Montagnard named Hlol was given a small space in the compound to set up a barber shop with another Montagnard and that’s where most of us had our hair cut, for a small fee. Another Montagnard named Rochom Sot, a happy little fellow, worked as a general laborer in the compound, a one day took me to the village near the lake where we drank home-brewed rice wine and ate raw anchovy-like fish. Cant recall whether he was with the Hmong or Raday tribe.
      There were a few others employed in the compound as KP’s and launderers. as well.
      Also, during brief periods during monsoon season, some Montagnard families were allowed to live within the compound.
      I wrote home about how friendly these people were and the folks in my , home town sent over tons of supplies for them,which were distributed after I rotated back to the U S by our medic, SP5 Darwin Reavis, and I believe, by some PsyOps guys. They sent me a photo of that activity which I still have.
      There was also much organized official intersweraction by various American advisors with a number Montagnard villages in the area.
      The Montagnards were great people who loved us and hated the communists. They had a very primitive but interesting culture. Some feared having their pictures taken because they believed their souls would be captured in the camera or on the photo paper. A missionary explained to me that they also believed that mentally ill people had to be killed by a very detailed ritual to prevent their spirits from remaining in the village to harm them!
      Hope this helps answer your question.

      • In late ’67 the barber chair was booby trapped. Explosives were found in the pedestal with wires running up under the arm of the chair. If you recall, the barber shop was in the perimeter fence end of the CQ building. Theory was that the “barber” was waiting for a high value target. Fortunately, I didn’t qualify. Not sure who the barber was at that time.

        I got a shave from whomever it was though, before this happened. Was a bit shocked to see that he shaved me with a sliver of an olf Shlitz beer can. Used a strop like a pro. Very hard for me to relax during the process, and I only did it once. I don’t think he was Montagnard, but it has been a few years, so…

  15. I served with Team 21 at the Pleiku compound from August 1972 into March 1973. I recommend inquiring at the National Archives for reconnaissance photography collected over that site in 1974 and particularly the first half of 1975. Photography from missions flown during that time frame largely should be declassified by now. You would need to determine the geographic coordinates of the compound; but, you would not have to be precise. The region west of Pleiku, within about 10 kilometers of Pleiku, should be sufficient. If the National Archives does not possess the photography, they should be able to direct you to whomever would have it.

    • Thanks Michael. Thank you for your service. I wonder if you knew one another. You wouldn’t recall how many served on Team 21 while you were both there or happen to have any pictures from on the ground? Thank you!

  16. Hello. My father served in the US Army MACV Team 21 from Jan ’72 to Nov. ’72. He mentioned that he was stationed at the Team 21 Compound at II Corps HQ. I’ve been trying to find pictures of his unit and compound, barracks, etc. Unfortunately, my search isn’t producing much at all. If there is anyone with information, I’d certainly like to connect. Thank you in advance!

    • Craig – I was at the Team 21 Compound from June ’70 until May of ’71 so I didn’t overlap with your dad. I have an aerial photo of the compound that I found online somewhere. if you provide me with an email address i’d be happy to send you a copy. cant figure if it can be uploaded here.

      I worked for captains Smyre and Volsky (sp?) who were the AGs and the G-3 was Col Lookenott. I was the legal clerk and also helped with doing OER’s and medal write ups. Arrived just after the Dak To battle and we processed the Medal of Honor application for Sgt Gary Littrell who ended up getting the award. I’ve seen his name occasionally in connection with MOH recipient organizations.

      Anyone who worked there reading this? I remember Smitty, John Staby, Sam Reed and could think of others.

  17. I was TDY from the 82nd ABN in May ’72 and stationed with a few other jeep-mounted TOW missile teams at the Team 21 compound as a counter- armor threat from the north during the ’72 Spring Offensive. We were officially known as the AT Platoon, 3rd BDE (SEP) 1st CAV, and we were carried by 2/8 CAV for admin purposes. The TOW teams were spread around at Holloway, Engineer Hill, Artillery Hill, and Kontum. Only there for a few week; thanks to all for your support.

  18. Hi folks. When I arrived in Pleiku, Aug 67, my address was Adv Tm 21. I was commo chief for a small detachment of movement specialists. We regulated all traffic in the area including highway and air. We lived in the opposite end of the MACV HQ Co barracks. We worked independently of MACV. When MACV got a new, little fat General, he kicked us off the compound because our Co HQ was in Saigon and we were not technically MACV, though we wore MACV insignia. It was a,weird situation. We had no medical or supply support and had to scrounge everything. Our Regional commander in Nha Trang got us billets on the Pleiiku Air Base. That was a trip! Living with Air Force while doing classified Army stuff put us in a kind of mistique. I don’t think even we knew who we were. Our guys ran the Air Base passenger terminal and highway checkpoints. We were true renegades. What a job! The Air Force treated us like movie stars and were in awe at all our weapons, etc. But, were we Adv Tm 21? Who knows. My call sign was DTO PKU.

  19. HI all – was with TM 21 July69-June 70 as an Intell analyst. I remember (I think) some names such as Ed Lemkuhl (fm New Jersey) and Will Kratky from St. Louis Sp4/or 5’s like I was). Lts. Sambol and Cpt Gregson, with Col Wyatt (?1st or last name)commanding the G-2 section. SFC Tonneson (sp) was the NCOIC when I arrived and clung to his M-1, no silly AR-14 for him. Hope all is well with everyone, now that we are approaching them golden years. Kirby Greene aka Trippah.

    • Do you remember a pleiku district radio operator that was accidently shot in the communication center , He died from the wound and I don’t remember his name . I was a radio operator in the letrung district during sept 69 to nov 70 Appreciate if anybody remembers the guy thanks Tim Dufour

  20. My father (A. Grant Gerber) was a MACV intelligence advisor serving in Pleiku Vietnam from June 68-69 (Team 21, II Corps, MACV). As a MACV advisor he was attached to the ARVN II Corp headquarters.

    He told a story about he and his ARVN Captain counterpart hearing of an ambush on the radio and that a wounded NVA or VC had been captured. They jumped into a jeep and raced up the road north of Pleiku toward Kontum to where the battle at the ambush site was still being fought in order to interrogate the POW.

    He also told a story about getting fresh intel from a POW concerning a new bridge that was being built by the NVA, then rushing in the back seat of an O-1 Bird Dog to observe and strafe the bridge construction before calling in some fast movers to finish the job.

    Dad said that he worked mostly with the ARVN personnel and not very much with American units, but if any of you know Grant Gerber, I’d like to hear from you.
    Boyd

  21. The General that commanded Team 21 while I was there from 11/66 to 11/ 67 was BG Richard Lee, his XO was Colonel Cannon. I thought Lee was an outstanding person, willing to listen to differing opinions and had a great sense of humor. I met him while walking down to the compound from the II Corps HQ building blissfully unaware that PT was being taken not too far from the guard post. He called to me and ordered me over into the group. No warm ups for me, just “Get going”, I guess I looked to be in better shape than I was in reality. After that first day I had to report to the MILPHAP MD as I had severe chest pains I thought I was having a heart attack at the ripe old age of 26, the Doc gave me a few aspirins as I had just strained a pectoral muscle. Injured or not there was no getting out of PT if we were available. Before too long I had dropped 20 pounds and was down to my cadet weight and had some new muscles. On breaks and before we started BG Lee would chat with us, kept us informed and was quite funny. The one comment I recall him making that had us in stitches was when he was asked why he had put PleiKu off limits, his response was, “Because it is the only place I know of where you can get VD just flying over it.”

    He and the Catholic chaplain made it a point to visit the various teams and once told us they was going to visit the SF camps. The group told him not to drink the rice wine but to put his finger over the metal stem and pretend to drink. Both decided to drink however and came down with amoebic dysentery which caused them to be hospitalized. General Lee came back very thin but insisted on having PT nevertheless, I don’t recall seeing the Catholic chaplain subsequently. After Lee rotated we continued to have PT with an ever smaller group, when it rained in the theater. As things began to heat up, more field trips, and we had troops in contact much more frequently attendance at PT dwindled and basically came to a halt. I do not recall who replaced Lee, we were that busy.

    Steve Sperman
    II Corps G3Air Advisor
    11/66-11/67

  22. Hi Murray, I’m new to this site and loved your recent post. I was 3 years after you and was Det XO at Team 21 HQ. When I was there and worked every day with 1st SGT George Scott. He was 5 yrs in country and had married a Vietnamese lady, Tuyet. We remained closest of friends well into civilian life. Me in Boston area and he was in NJ. We had many visits along w other team 11 guys until his passing. I presented his family w flag, was a tough day. The memories are vivid and my time there also had major effect on my life. I too had great career in insurance and financial services. I didn’t run a billion dollar company, but managed to pay my bills and put 3 kids through great colleges. I googled you and must say “you did good”.
    So I was XO for 6 mos. then Generals Aide for 2 weeks. He was a real jerk and I pretty much told him that on visit to Bam Mi Tuet) so he fired me and send me to out in the field as advisor to 68th RF PF Batallion. I’m still in touch monthly w 2 soldiers from the orderly room. My wife and I now live on coast of Maine and I work full time running an artisan bakery. So Murray be well, I don’t know you, but really do in many regards. I cherish the memories and still stay in touch w the kids of some my guys who are no longer with us.

    Bill Izzard (LT)

    • Thanks Bill for your kind comments. One of the good things about an experience like Viet Nam, for many of us, is that, facing our own mortality caused us to honestly evaluate ourselves. I remember many nights when us guys in the security platoon would sit around a talk about what we do differently if we ever got the chance. There were a lot of guys in that unit who had great potential, and I suspect many did well, with the motivation of knowing they were fortunate enough to have survived and perhaps owed it to the guys who didn’t, to live well.
      Luckily, my General was a good guy. A hero as a tank battalion commander fighting Field Marshall Rommel in North Africa in WW2, was captured when he ran out of ammo and severely wounded leading the largest POW escape of the war. Oh, and he just happened to be General Patton’s son-in-law, so he felt he had something to live up to. Couldn’t help but learn a lot about life just being around the guy.
      Sounds like you’ve certainly done well, too, and that there were positive aspects to your experience, also. Great hearing from you. Stay well.
      Murray

  23. To James Willison: If you are the guy from California who we called “Willie”, who went on R an R with me to Bangkok in March ’66, I’ve still got the photos of that trip, and one of a group of us a Lake Bien Ho with that beat up wooden boat with an M14 on it. Hell of a way to water ski !! And I doubt if you’ll ever forget that night in November ’65 when you volunteered us to help the First Cav as they were getting battered at the Ia Drang. You showed great character that night when you said “Let’s go help some Americans”…it was truly inspiring!
    If you haven’t guessed by now, I’m Murray Dashe, who was with you in the Security Platoon before I went to work for Major Robert Woodworth who did double duty as advisor to the 22d Ranger Bn., and Detachment C/O at Team 21.
    After Major Woodworth rotated out, I remained in the Orderly Room with Capt. Jerry Culbertson, and was occasionally assigned to escort visiting entertainers, and later served as orderly to General John K. Waters.
    If that’s you, Willie, contact me at mdashe@aol.com.
    Life worked out pretty well for me, and Pleiku was the turning point. With Captains Berman and Culbertson, and General Waters all telling me I was a fool if I didn’t finish college, I went back and finished college and grad school after leaving active duty with the 101st Airborne (as a sergeant) in ’67, and 30 years later found myself with a great family and CEO of a billion dollar corporation. So it’s been a wonderful journey, but in my mind it all began at Team 21 where my life turned around because some great officers took the time to pound some sense into me. So I thank all you guys for your friendship, and those terrific officers who had such a positive influence on my life. Best wishes to you all!
    Murray Dashe

  24. On June 1, 1965 I was in the Security Section MAC V Compound . At a later date, I was transferred to Distribution Clerk under Capt. Lucio Admit. Sect. I was Spec.4 and would travel from Camp Holloway to Pleiku. In 1966 , I was a Bartender in the NCO Club at the MAC V Compound. Worked there until I rotated back to the States in ’66.

    • Hi James! Great to be able to talk to someone that was there that day. My father, Major Ralph Walden, was involved in an ambush on that day, 1 Jun 1965, traveling from Pleiku to La Thanh. (He was in Vietnam from Oct 64 – Apr 66. If you remember him I would like to chat with you and you can email me at wilhelmc44@yahoo.com.

    • Hi James, chances are we met each other.
      Our 25th Psyops detachment arrived by ship with the 1st Cav in September 1965 and we were flown in to Pleiku where we were given space beside the bar area at the MACV compound to bunk down for several months.
      Some of the entertainers I remember meeting at the bar area were Robert Mitchum, Rory Calhoun and Martha Ray…do you recall serving them as the bartender?
      I do recall helping out behind the bar occasionally since we did not recieve our conex’s with all our equipment for a month or two….I was a tall thin SP/4 and I was the Photographer for our detachment.
      Remember how good the smell at the dining area was with the smell of fresh baked french style breads?
      I recall many nights on guard duty in that dusty bunker outside near our area…setting out the claymores and listening to the sounds of battles in the distance.
      My Commander, ( Cpt William R. Perry) and I were supporting the 1st Cav at the Catecka and on the night of 12 November 1965… we were attacked and over run by the VC as they attempted to blow us off the map and blow up our pol fuel pods..7 American KIA and about 25 wounded..the 13th I photographed LTC Hal Moore as he reported to the 3rd Bde Cdr ( Col Brown) as they planned the Ia Drang battle which began the next day on the 14th.
      I photographed parts of the battle from Huey’s going in with ammo and supplies and hauling out the KIA and wounded from the battle, but most of the time I was flying shotgun in an Air Force bird dog documenting the fighting from low altitude.
      I also remember going to Bangkok on R&R around the spring of 1966…I think we flew there in a C-47 cargo plane.
      Well James, I have rambled on far too long…just wanted to say Hi, and Welcome Home.
      If you, or any others would like to reach me I’m at milsammy@aol.com.
      Take care and God bless you all.

      David Miller

      • David,
        This is Murray Dashe responding to your post of 6/14.
        I was on Team 21 from about 7 June ’65 through 23 May ’66. I remember the arrival of your PsyOps team and we must have known each other, since our rooms were near each other and my roommates and I did occasionally spend time at night in the enlisted bar if we didn’t have guard duty. Our room was next to the medic’s room (Sp/5 Reavis), behind the sandbagged ammo bunker (which was next to the volleyball court). My roommates were Bob Hurley (security platoon), Nick Gradl (detachment clerk), and a guy named Sherman (mail clerk). All had great senses of humor, and we laughed a lot.
        They all rotated back to the States during Sept=Oct ’65, and the only roommate I remember after that was Joel Franklin Dean of Atlanta, Sherman’s replacement as mail room clerk. Dean had a very dry sense of humor. Rarely smiled but his sarcasm kept me laughing.
        I well remember guard duty in those bunkers, and how muddy they were during monsoon season.
        I escorted Martha Ray, George Jessel, James Drury (the Virginian), Robert Mitchum, and George C. Scott who was preparing for his role in the movie ‘Patton”. In Feb.’66 I was assigned as orderly for General John K. Waters, who treated me very well and I still have a cigarette lighter he gave me the last time I saw him.
        Martha Ray wanted to have tissues ready when she came off the stage because she always cried when she said goodbye to the troops at the end of her show. You may remember that.
        Mitchum and I got food poisoning in Pleiku and we ended up that night in the medic’s room puking into a shared wastebasket and I remember him saying ‘Boy are you gonna have a story to tell your kids!’
        jessel was in his 60’s and exhausted from the trip but would never let me carry his bag because he said he was honored to work for us. A very kind old gentleman. Drury, on the other hand, was a real piece of work, and was ordered out of II Corps after his Pleiku visit!
        I don’t recall seeing Rory Calhoun. Might have been there after I left in May ’66.
        Weren’t you PsyOps guys responsible for the humorous Xmas card many of us sent home with the drawing of a surprised Santa with bullet holes in him saying ‘I went through Hell to get here!’ I still have that!
        Glad you made it home. Stay in touch.
        Murray Dashe

  25. I am proud of my Dad’s contribution in Vietnam. I have his cross bow he must have been given. It has inscribed metal tags on it with this inscription: to: MAJ WILLIAM A WORLEY JR
    AUG 62 thru AUG 63
    From: MAAG ADV TEAM 21
    Pleiku Vietnam

  26. Hey Pete, never met Geron. For about 10 years we had a reunion with 5 guys I worked with. We’d rotate every year and meet in Mass., Minn Ohio and NJ where Top Sgt lived. He’s the short stocky guy u mentioned. He married a Vietnamese lady, Tuyet, it was great to keep that relationship in civilian life. A while back he passed away and I was the MC at his funeral presenting the flag to his wife, who to this day, we use her recipe for spring rolls. It’s a funny thing. I don’t know you, but feel that I do because of the history from Team 21. Last night I talked to one of my guys, who told me that soon after I left, the mess hall took a rocket killing the mess Sgt and 4 others. We’re killed. Sorry for the driveling but those days had such a great impact on how I lead my life. And here we are. I spend 35 years in the financial world in Boston and we moved to Maine, bought a 200 yr old farm out in the woods. All is well. Mostly!! Be well.

    • Sorry for the slow response Bill, lots to do in Montana in the spring. I’m glad to hear you maintained contact with the “top”, I remember he had a Vietnamese wife. I have maintained contact with many of the Ranger Advisors from Pleiku and other teams too. While I was the Detachment XO, I recall at least2 rocket direct hits at the compound. One hit by the barbershop and killed a brand new 2Lt who had just arrived the day prior. The other hit right outside the barracks tent where the enlisted me slept, only one man hit as I recall and he recovered.

      I stayed on active duty until December 1971 and then came back to Montana. After returning and finishing school, I worked with the Missoula Police for 25 years retiring as the Chief in 2001, I then worked 14 years with a regional railroad as the Chief of Security and retired for good in November 2014. I do still serve on the Montana Board of Pardons and Parole as a volunteer but plan on ending that soon. We have a mountain cabin about 85 miles south of our hometown of Missoula, great hunting and fishing and we spend most of the summer and fall there.

      My direct email is Pete.Lawrenson@outlook.com and my cell is 406-370-3168. I’d like to stay in contact with you, we do plan on coming east sometime in the near future to visit cousins in Vermont.
      Stay safe,
      Pete

  27. My name is Tim DuFour I was a radio operator for a macv unit located outside pleiku called la trung we had two mat teams assigned to our compound not sure what the team numbers where there but , Its been a long time not sure of names but sure respected the guys that served.

  28. Hi all. I was at team 21 from April 69 to May 70. My first assignment was detachment XO, then became advisor to 68 th RF/PF ARVN Batallion. My 1st SGT was George Scott, who remained my best friend even back in civilian life. He was in NJ and I Mass. They were good times with great people. Troopers I worked with were Floyd Joswick, Mike Winfied, Dave Krantz. I’d love to hear from anyone who I may know. My Det Commander was Capt Dobbs. He ate nails for lunch.

    • Hi Bill,
      I was the detachment XO for team21 from Nov 68 – Feb 69, then went to the Ranger advisory team. The CO was major Marvin Boroski, I don’t recall the 1st Sgt other than he was short and squat. I went to Pleiku last year, the Vietnam Army has a base where the team compound was located and then will not let you access the area. Nothing looked like it did in 68-69. the Ranger senior advisor was was LTC Cleveland Corbett. There was a SSgt with the Rangers named Gary :Lattrell who was awarded the MOH for action near Kontum in May 69, long after I left.
      Pete Lawrenson
      Missoula, Mt

      • Hey Pete, Major Borowski was the CO when I reported in. We worked together for a few months. Sgt Fidelle was the mess Sgt. So basically I was your replacement. I recall them saying there was no XO for a few months and they were glad to see me. More later.

        • Great to hear from you Bill. Fun times back then, I’m sure we crossed paths at the mess hall or the crossbow club. After VN I saw Maj Boroski at Ft Hood, he was with 1st Arm Div and I was with the 2nd Arm Div. Great man but I have lost track with him.
          Did you ever meet LTC Jack Daniel from the Ranger team, another real soldier.

          In Sept 69 we had a fire at our base c amp outside Pleiku. SFC Jose Geron lost his life in the fire and the rest of us lost most of our personal stuff like all my photos.

          Where are you living now?

          Pete

  29. I would like to correspond with anyone who knew my brother in law Captain Gary Roderick, MACV, Pleiku 1966-67. JPettit, 173rd Abn Bde, Bao Loc, 68.

  30. Thank you for the info Ken Kraft. You are the first one to respond that they knew Ron Johnson. If you have any pictures of him you might post them on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial ( VVMF.org) Wall of Faces. I am a yellow hat volunteer at the memorial in Washington and can usually be found there on Memorial Day and Veterans Day. Stop by and say hi if your there. Where are you in NY? Grew up in the Adirondacks myself. Thanks again for the info on Ron. Wayne

  31. Cpt John,
    Yes, that was me. The revolver was
    a British .455 service revolver that shot .45 ammo with a half moon clip and actually, I brought it with me from the states when I came over. Thank you so much for getting in touch with me. Can we get in touch by email?

  32. My father was Melvin Wright he was there during 1964-1966. I think his DD214 reads HHD 52d AVN BN APO SF 96318 USARV
    Not sure what this all is I have several pics of Camp Halloway.

  33. I think my Father was stationed out of Pleiku. He was an advisor not sure which detachment anyone know how I would find this out? He was 82nd ABN also.
    Melvin Wright
    Cincinnati Ohio

  34. I was the radio operator for the 5 man ranger advisor team to the 23rd ranger bn out of Pleiku starting in Feb 1966. I’m trying to get in touch with one of our former team members to hopefully get some info since all my memorabilia was lost in a fire several years ago. I just came upon this site and hopefully someone with some info can contact me. My email is listed. Thank you for any help.

  35. Hey guys, I am looking for any information I can get about my grand father (my mothers biological father) I’m not sure what “team” he was on. Captain Stewart (don’t know first name) who worked with major Scott (cap commander) they worked at a dispensary in pleiku. 66-68 pleidolim. Le Trung district.

    • There was a MILPHAP team whose MDs were billeted in the MACV compound. They not only treated the Vietnamese but also were available to the Advisors. If you can find a MILPHAP site that might help.

    • Elizabeth
      What was your grand father name, I server with Major Scott at Plei Do Lim 1965 thru early 1967. Leave a reply here if I know anything I will get back to you

  36. I am requesting any comments or recollections on the CSM for Advisory Team 21, II Corps, USMACV Jun 1968- Jun 69. This was CSM Basil Plumley, according to his records. His name is familar to most people from the book and movie, “We Were Soldiers Once and Young”. Thank you. Ed Howard

    • Ed,
      CMS Plumley was with the Ranger advisory team of team 21 based just outside of Pleiku. I’m not sure the dates he was there but know for sure in April-May 69 he was there involved in the major campaign at Dak To. He served with LTC Jack Daniel at the Ranger Team.
      Pete Lawrenson

      • Hi all. I was there from April 69 to May 70 as Det XO. During my time the CMS was Robert Dondero until he was killed in Nov 70 while visiting a team 21 unit in Quang Duc Province. They were scrambling to board chopper back to Pleiku and he was his with rocket. All made in on board cept him. He was to leave to meet his wife in Hawaii for R and R the next day. There is a nice web site about him being in Arlington Cemetary.

  37. I’m reading from a letter from Chuck Miller dated Feb 16, 1970: “I am stationed outside of Pleiku in an engineering compound. I live with three other individuals in a long rectangularly shaped building. The four of us form what is known as an intelligence collection team. We are working with the Vietnamese…”
    And, ” Life in Pleiku is relaxed as our team is detached from supervision…
    And, “The city itself is off limits…one plus is the weather…American troops are moving to the coast…which means the TV and radio stations are leaving…and so is the Air Force system for calling the states…”

    Is Charles S. Miller reading these posts? Chuck and I were at language school in El Paso together. Six months after receiving his letter I joined Team 2 in Quang Ngai.
    R. Ballantine

  38. Thank you for your comment Steve. Army Otter 702 crashed and was recovered from Dragon Mountain at AR 7765 3675. The 18th Aviation Company history details the search for the crash site and they were expecting to find it further south also, as they started the search at Cheo Reo. That was the north couriers last stop were they picked up Ronald Johnson. An instructor pilot out of the 4th ID at Camp Enari discovered the crash while giving a local area check ride to a new pilot. While on the ground at the crash site on Dragon Mountain the recovery team witnessed an Air Force bird dog FAC crash on the same line as Otter 702 but 400 meters down hill. After running through an old mine field they were able to pull the observer from under the burning wing of that airplane but could not free the pilot before the fuel on board caught fire.

    • Che Reo; a sad note. I was with Team 21, August 72 – March 73 (second tour). Subsequently, in the spring 75, I was at the Pentagon and had occasion to view a photo recon mission that covered a river crossing south of Pleiku on QL 14, if memory serves. A civilian convoy, likely fleeing the NVA advance southward toward Che Reo, had been devastated; charred/destroyed vehicles on the north side of the river. I wondered then, and since, if any of the Vietnamese I knew were caught up in that.

  39. Hello Michael,
    I’m so sorry to hear of your father’s death in Vietnam…I can sense the loss you feel.
    I did not arrive in Pleiku until September 1965, but am familiar with the area.
    Have done some research on your father’s convoy to Le Thanh and would like to forward an email to you that may help bring some closure and explain his combat action involving the assault on the enemy’s machine gun position which stole his life.
    The map also depicts the area…
    email me at milsammy@aol.com and I will send it to you.

    David Miller

  40. As a Captain I was the II Corps Team 21 Asst. G3 Air Advisor from November 1966 until early 1967 when I replaced Captain George Finley as the G3 Air Advisor. I advised Captain Cu. The ARVN TOC officer I worked with was Major Su. Colonel Cannon was our Executive Officer, BG Lee commanded Tm 21. Su was, after I had left in November of 1967, assassinated at the Da Lat military academy due to internal ARVN issues from what I was told. Never heard from Cu post war. My desk was on the US side of the TOC across the hall from II DASC. Sitting across from me was usually LTC Herb Rapley who went over the targets I had selected and worked out the aircraft and ordnance with me. I never had a convoy leave without air cover, nor did we ever not have air support up to be diverted to troops in contact if required. I did all the Arc Lights by myself, no USAF input and called in the targets via the tropospheric scatter site. LTG Vinh Loc had given me and my predecessor full authorization to request strkes in his name. Flew many missions with the FACs out to the border, flew all over the Corps area, Ba Gi, Kontum, Binh Dinh, Bam Me Thuot etc. I taught English in PleiKu at the court house. As I was leaving an NVA regiment moving forward toward PKU and the $th ID was surprised funny story there, we diverted all air support to the area which if you read the NVA account was a total disaster for them, 500 KIA by body count. The NVA are still unaware of what happened and why we knew they were there. Team 21 from 1966 to 1967 was highly professional and left a strong foundation for Vann and his staff later on.

    • So Steve did you meet Capt John K Adams who came in 03-06-67 to Team 21? I have a photo of him with another Capt I’d like to ID….Do you belong to the MACV group on Facebok???

  41. This is my first time ever attempting to contact my army buddies on the Internet. My name is (SP5) Richard C. Hudgens. I served with MACV Advisory Team 21 (G3) at II Corps Headquarters in PleiKu from mid-January, 1968 until mid-February, 1969. I often pulled guard duty on the north side of the compound among construction equipment as they were building the “firefighting reservoir” from February until July, when the pool opened. I manned a telephone and typewriter in the G3 office, a small unfinished wood frame building at the top of the hill, outside the compound, next to the huge HQ building. Soon after my arrival a replacement G3 Advisor, LTC Robert S. Williams, and a replacement G3 Deputy Advisor, MAJ Washington, also arrived. The officers had the back rooms, while the enlisted people had the front room. I worked with SP5 Thomas H.Freeman, SP4 James J. Carroll, and the best sergeant ever, SFC Gordon N. Reis. We also had Vietnamese translators in the office, CPL Le Trong, SGT Thinh, SGT Thanh, and a sillyvillain, Miss Hai. Freeman later rotated out and was replaced by SP4 Bonar Armstrong. Later in ’68, the entire G3 office was moved into the newly constructed underground CTOC, the Corps Tactical Operations Center, which was the only place in the entire area that could withstand a direct hit from a 122mm rocket. I initially had the bottom bunk in a barracks-type building, with rows of two-tiered bunks, but eventually I moved into one of the old motel-type rooms of the original compound, sharing the room with three other guys. Besides Bonar, my other two roommates were SP4 Paul Haas (the Chaplain’s assistant), and CPL Joe Rogers (a full-time Life Guard at the “firefighting reservoir”). I have fond memories of standing around the burn barrel burning classified documents with Couriers SP4 Roger Dine Olsen (Ole, or Flash Guru) and SP4 Clinton B. Hartwell. I remember SP5 Darryl F. Chapman, SP5 John Hilty, MAJ Peter LaRosa, MAJ Philip P. Caswell, and many others. That was ’68, and now I’m 68! Last year I contacted Clint Hartwell and enjoyed speaking with him. Anyway, here I am out in public.

    • Mr. Hudgens, my father was Maj. Washington, he would never speak of his time in Vietnam. Anything you remember about him, that you are willing to tell me would be greatly appreciated
      . Thank you, John Washington

    • Hello Richard. Your Pleiku room mate Paul Haas was my fellow Chaplain Assistant student from Fort Dix (NJ) and Fort Hamilton (NY). From the day we met (Jan-1-1968 at Ft. Dix), we became life-long friends. Paul visited me 3 times at my unit – the 3rd Field Hospital in Saigon. I remember him describing his comfortable room that he shared with you, He stayed with me at the hospital, where only a few of us lived over Ward 1. Almost everyone else (Doctors, Nurses, other officers, medics and other EM) lived off-post in hotels or villas in the Ton Son Nhut area Although Paul invited me to visit him at Pleiku, I never had the time or freedom to travel that far from the hospital. Paul especially enjoyed the French restaurants in Saigon, as he spoke French fluently. Because of that he also had some collateral duties at Pleiku as a interpreter, in addition to the Chaplain’s Assistant duty.

      Paul died last year, at age 69, very quickly from pancreatic cancer. He had a long career with the airlines, Air France, Pa Am and finally Delta. Paul had retired a few years ago. I paid my respects to him at Fort Rosecranz National Cemetery, San Diego in November. A mutual friend of ours from Chaplain training, Lee Selvig, is also interred at Fort Rosecranz. Lee died 12 years ago. Lee served in Chu Lai and you may have met him when he visited Paul at Pleiku.

      A couple of years ago Paul mentioned to me that his and your roommate Joe Rogers died in the line of duty as a law enforcement officer. I recently searched his name and found nothing about the circumstances. But in the process I came upon this website and found your message. Thank you for posting. I enjoyed reading your comments. Best to you.

      Ed Russell
      Springfield, PA

  42. I was om Team 65, Sa Dec, IV Corp. My golfing (and tm 65) buddy Jim Resau was downsizing from a house to a condo and gave me a 13X18 (approx) cartoon with 15 drawings around the border and a large drawing in the center of a Co Van My and a counterpart (VN CPT). He has no idea where he got it. We were in country 69-70 but he was another 2 years at Aberdeen and another 24 or so in the reserves. Near the bottom is printed “FINLEY adv tm 21”. Anyone know anything??? Tom Jinks 1st LT tm 65.

    • You have a drawing by Colonel (Ret.) George Finley, then Captain, who served on TM 21 as the G#Air Advisor. Google his name for more info. I worked for George and have a personalized version of the same drawing. He also did a mural in the field grade officers mess.

  43. I was MacV Adv21 Pleiku May 1965 to May 1966. Worked with Hdq. Co. II Corp. Area and all the G Sections. Would like to hear from any members.

    • I was on the adv team to the 23rd bn in Pleiku as the radio operator. Just found this site and would love to talk with you as I lost all my notes, photos, etc in a fire several years ago. Arrived at MacV compound in feb 66.

  44. I was in supply and mail room at Team 21 from Dec 68 to Mar 69. I remember a Lt. Lawrenceson, Maj. Gaier, Rodney Dobbins, Ray Ailstock, and a few others. Team 21 was basically the HQ Detachment for MACV II Corps Hq. Other units we supported were Team 36 in Pleiku, a ARVN ranger advisory group, and a ARVN POW camp. Other than moviews or the club was not a lot ot do at night. I remember volunteering to ride shotgun to take the Generals chopper pilot home after dinner one night. If i remember the 1st Sgt was part owner of club in Pleiku. William Luck ran the special services office. A guy named Delmar Titus was the motor sgt.

  45. 245th Psyops from August of 1966 to July of 1967. Ran the photo lab and also was a pressman for a short while. Sp’s Miller, Morris and Niver we leaving at i arrived. The two artists were SP4 Wands and Keane. Keane also served in the field. Mario Villamazzo and David Luke served about the same time. I remember being mortared at least twice, and night was a pretty major offensive at Camp Holloway. Nice to see some of my friends posting here. Capt. Dunn was the CO when I got there replaced by Capt Brereton from Bremerton, WA. The other Lt referred to my be Joe Wlbran, who became active in Minnesota politics.

  46. Hi mario, Good to hear from you…and welcome home.
    So many thoughts running through my mind about how we were so close, but yet do not remember meeting you….did you work with SP5 Peter Clark in our detachment? He had similar duties and was in the loudspeaker/med/cap team that supported the 1st air cav and Montagnard villages.
    When we got off the troop ship in Qu Nhon in September 1965 we were flown to Pleiku and set up a temporary place to sleep in the same building as the Macv bar on the main compound while our hooch was being built…about 100 yards from the small PX…our vans and work area was behind II Corps Hq bldg.
    If you send me your email address I can send you some photos.
    I do remember Cpt Perry being replaced by Cpt Dunn and think I have a picture of Sgt Baker.
    Have a lot more to say, but have to stop for now…hope you respond soon.
    David Miller
    Olympia, Wa

    • Captain Perry was there when I transferred to the detachment. Captain Dunn came in about the same time I did. I knew Plemmons. Our ship sailed into Cam Ranh Bay and then sailed to Vung Tau where the HHC of the 6th disembarked. My email address is mvillama@comcast.net. The detachment had its orderly room and operations in the ARVN compound behind II Corps HQs as you wrote. Baker and Allen came on the same troop transport with me but they were sent to the 245th PSYOPS Co. in Nha Trang and then to Pleiku. I was my own team leader most of the time. A couple of times I went out with Lt. Barrett and another lieutenant whose name I forgot, but I usually went out by myself with Montangards and an ARVN soldier that we called Wilbur. Wilbur wore glasses and spoke English, French and Vietnamese, of course.

      Ia Drang was close to the Tea Plantation where the 3rd Bde of the 25th was. , I didn’t go to Ia Drang, but had I been there in ’65 who knows if I’d be here today. The 1st Air Cav took me all over II Corps.

  47. David Miller, I was with the PSYOPs detachment in the MACV compound. Our hootch was next to the mail room. Went to Nam by MSTS troop transport ship, the USNS Gen John Pope, with the HHC 6th PsyOps. Was in the Detachment from about May 1966 until January 1967. I was an intelligence analyst and on a loud speaker team. Supported the 1st and 3rd Bdes of the 1st Air Cav, 2nd Bde of the 4th ID and 3rd Bde of the 25th ID. I also worked with the CIDG. Richard (Duke) Allen, David Luke, Lt. Barrett, Captain Dunn, and Sgt. Baker were there at the same time.

  48. I was assigned to Team 21 supply room from Dec 68 through Mar 70 when i was reassigned to Team 22. Ray Ailstock, Richard Smelser, William Luck were some of the guys assigned that I remember. Ray was the generals driver/clerk, Bill was the special services guy. I worked with a Rodney Dobbins who transferred from the 175th Abn. Lt Lawrenceson was the xo for a while before he went out with the Rangers. I left before the officers/nco club was hit by a rocket but so the aftermath. Was early 1970 i believe.

    • I am Pete Lawrenson and served with team 21 in Pleiku. I don’t recall your face, had yo9u previously served with the 173rd before team 21? I remember Major Marvin Boroski was the team 21 HQ Det. Commander, the 1st Sgt was a short stocky guy but I don’t remember his name. I was there Nov 68-Nov 68, went to the Ranger advisors in March 69. Went to Vietnam and Plieku last march, amazing change. Pleiku is now about 850,000 residents, no sign of the MACV HQ or anything else familiar. Looking forward to hearing from you.

    • So Phil I was Det XO at Team 21 from April 69 to May 60. I replaced LT Lawrenson. First Sgt George Scott was me best buddy. Floyd Joshwisk and Mike Winfield were also in the orderly room with me. I am having a brain fart to remember you but the name is familiar. More later.

      • Hi Bill Izzard: I’m Tom Woodall. As a Major I was assigned to Team21 from Jan thru Dec 69 as Engineer Advisor to the localVN Engr Group in Pleiku. I roomed with 2 other guys in the old compound but don’t remember their names. By any chance do you remember me? I do remember the Hqs Commandant mentioned in other postings here. Would be nice if I could jump start my memory of those days!

        Tom Woodall

        • Hi all, Pete Lawrenson here. As mentioned, I was the XO Nov 68 Mar 69 when I went to the Ranger team. Maj Marvin Boroski was CO when I was there. Was 1st Sgt Scott and short and stocky guy. If so, I remember him well. Phil, after seeing your pic I remember you well. I went back to Pleiku last tear, amazing changes. A very large city (850,000), high rise buildings and the MACV compound is now an army base with no access or photos allowed. Do any of you remember Maj Jerry White from the ranger team? I am in contact with a few of the Ranger advisors. All the photos I had were lost in a fire at the Ranger compound a month before I came home. SFC Jose Geron also died in the fire. I’ll go back to VN again but the plane ride is a killer, 25 hours out of Seattle! Be safe all.pere

          Sent from my iPhone

  49. I served from 1966 – 1967. Team 21 II corp and lived.on the MACV compound. Dos any one know of ssgt fisher also of team 21. He as i were assigned to ARVN Rangers he moved north when the rangers moved in december 1966.

    • Hi Fred…just now seeing your post. Do you remember Capt John K Adams, Army, who was with II Corps Team 21 from 1Mar67 to 26Mar 67 when he was KIA with his ARVN Counterpart??? I’m trying to ID another Capt in a photo I have posing with my father when her first arrived at HQ. Maybe you can remember other Officers during that time frame? Thanks much!

      • Deb, sorry for the delay I have been out of the area. On my team there was one captain, a lt. And a major. As far as I knew the officers stayed and us enlisted rotated home. There were a total of ten men with no Kia on my rotation. If you have a photo that I can see I will be happy to tell you about our interaction, I was the team medic.

    • Fred it doesn’t look like I can upload a photo here…are you on the MACV group on Facebook?! It’s a small group but if you served as part of the MACV you should join!

    • Have you checked with Bill Miller, he is the BDQ conection with the 75th Ranger Association and may have records of him. I was with the Rangers in 1969.

  50. SSgt Mike Adkins. I was an Intelligence analyst assigned to Team 21 Aug 72-Mar 73; my second tour. SP5 at the time. First tour was Jul 67 – Jul 68, during which I spent Tet 68 just 8 km south of Hue — an interesting time indeed. Got to “tour” the city after it was cleared of NVA. Years later, I viewed a schematic of the Team 21 compound and discovered an amusing factoid. The compound had a “fire-fighting reservoir” complete with diving board. Also had a volley ball court and skeet range. Rotated back to the world in Mar 73 as we were closing out the compound and turning it over to ARVN.

    • I worked at the AFVN station in 1970, shortly after the det had moved down from the mountain to the MACV compound. I actually swam
      in the “firefighting reservoir” a couple times. At that time, the swimming pool area was surrounded by only a couple buildings. That immediate area was called Camp Schmidt. Don’t recall if anyone was actually working there.
      There was an intell compound directly up the hill from us, just a couple hundred yards from II Corps HQ. They would tell us when
      52 strikes would hit. We’d stand outside and feel the ground shake.
      The nearby compounds I can recall were Artillery Hill, the Log Center (rocketed fairly often), a field hospital, a Special Forces
      (5th or 7th) and the air base where we could see the tropo antennas from the MACV compound. We were also treated to
      midnight chow at the base chow hall.
      My favorite nearby areas were Ben Ho Lake and the Montenard village — probably less than a mile (as the rocket flies) from MACV.
      A couple “day trips” in Kontum and Blackhawk fire base along the road that I think led to Quang Tri or NaTrang.

      • My name is David gordy shy E5 was attached to 43rd signal btn from jan 69 jan 70.was 05c20 teletype team chief in bunker with 525th attached to macv.i new Paul Hass and the life guard as well as Tom Smith and Joe! recall the barbershop rocket as well as the one that hit the shoulder going home and of course so many more.My unit was 54th signal btn na trang.our group was Woody,joe ,doc and others attached.have been reading on this page and could not believe I found it.if you remember me or my brothers email me at gordyshopshop@gmail.com I live in longview Texas. Bless u all!

  51. R Lacerenza I was Intell at advisory team 21 II DASC 1966-67 I was a SSgt in the USAF. Would like to hear for anyone who was their at that time.

  52. Welcome home guys,
    I was the still photographer in the 25th Psyop det. MACV compound, Pleiku from September 1965 to September 1966.
    I was presented with a small crossbow inscribed with MACV Advisory team 21, Pleiku, Vietnam.
    I photographed the Ia Drang battle in Nov 1965 and was in the jungles and Montagnard villages with the 3rd bde, 1st Cav often collecting photos that were made into leaflets at our detachment.
    Would be happy to provide more info if requested.

    • Some of the soldiers in 25th Psyop detachment as I remember….sorry I can’t recall everyones name….Remember that 17 day ship voyage to Vietnam?
      Cpt William R Perry, Lt Harvey, Lt Goetz, Lt Williams, Sp4 Corlette Baylock, Dienthal, Swinerton, Pimental, Charles Morris, Risley, Niver, Rosynek and Plemons…Sp5 Peter Clark and SSG Mike Zazalak.
      I was honored to be selected in August 2013 in Together we served if you care to look at my profile go to: http://army.togetherweserved.com/army/servlet/tws.webapp.WebApp?cmd=Profile&type=R
      Sure would like to hear from you!

    • February 12, 2015 11:29 am
      David Miller, I was with the PSYOPs detachment in the MACV compound. Our hootch was next to the mail room. Went to Nam by MSTS troop transport ship, the USNS Gen John Pope, with the HHC 6th PsyOps. Was in the Detachment from about May 1966 until January 1967. I was an intelligence analyst and on a loud speaker team. Supported the 1st and 3rd Bdes of the 1st Air Cav, 2nd Bde of the 4th ID and 3rd Bde of the 25th ID. I also worked with the CIDG. Richard (Duke) Allen, David Luke, Lt. Barrett, Captain Dunn, and Sgt. Baker were there at the same time.

    • My father, Major Bernard W Dibbert, was killed in an ambush near Pleiku on June 1, 1965. Do you know anything about what happend or have any pictures of Highway 19 from Pleiku to Le Thanh (where their convey was headed)? Michael Dibbert (his son)

      • Hi Michael,
        First off, I’m sorry to hear your father passed away there. I often wonder what it would have been like if my dad hadn’t returned home and how different our lives would have turned out.
        My father was an ARVN advisor 1964-66 in Pleiku. His name is Maj. Ralph C. Walden. I have your father’s name written down in my research notes and I just googled his name and came across your post. Unfortunately my dad passed away in 1997 so I can’t ask him but he received the Bronze Star for that ambush and I have the letter he received with it. It reads:

        For heroism in connection with military operations against a hostile force: Maj. Walden distinguished himself by heroic action on 1 June 1965 while serving as an advisor to a friendly force in the Republic of Vietnam. During the course of an operation Major Walden’s convoy was ambushed by a Viet Cong battalion. He immediately returned fire inflicting many casualties on the insurgent forces. After approximately twenty minutes of intense fighting, Major Walden moved to the far side of the road where friendly soldiers were wounded and led them down a ravine to safety. Upon arrival of the relief force he led the group back to the pick up point and assisted in the evacuation of the group.
        The letter is dated 24 Nov 1965 and is signed by W.B. Rosson Major General, USA Chief of Staff

        I also have a letter my dad wrote to us about that day and I will try to find it.

        I also have a letter from Lt.General Lon That Dinh commending my father in regards to LOI HOA II and III. I don’t know if anyone out there remembers my dad or these exercises but I would love to talk to anyone that does.
        Thanks!
        Cheryl Walden

  53. My mail address in 1967 was MACV Adv Tm 21 Pleiku. We lived on the MACV compound next to their HQ guys. We were a small detachment of TMA. I was commo chief. When the new General came we got kicked off the compound and went to live with the Air Force. Since most of our work was classified, I told him what we did was none of his business. Our hooch looked like MASH the tv show. Bar in the center, loud music and weapons everywhere. Needless to say, the little General was pissed.

    We were there during Tet ’68. We manned the bunkers outside the compound. Once out of the wire there was no getting back in until daylight. Mortar and rocket attacks were a daily part of life after Tet. Fortunately, none of our guys got killed, though we took a lot of shrapnel.

    Am unable to contact any of the TMA guys. The only people we associated with were some of the 504 MP’s. If anyone is out there let me know.

    Jerry Frith. 66-68

    • Jerry Frith are you on Facebook? I posted a reply above regarding Capt John K Adams, Team 21 only from 01Mar67 to 26Mar67 , his KIA date. Did you have contact with these guys ? I’ve posted photos he took on the MACV Facebook group

  54. I am looking for anyone who served on the MACV team 21, II Corps, who might remember a Sergeant First Class by the name of Ray Ely. He was in Vietnam from ’67-’69 and was awarded the Bronze star in ’67. Any help would be appreciated.

  55. SP5 Tommy C. Nettles, I was assigned to Team 21 Feb-May 70 as an Intelligence Analyst. I had an emergency at home and had to leave early. I ended up getting out of the Army , for a while. I remember the mess hall getting blown all to hell and killing lots of people. We were a target for the rockets and got hit often. The pool was great. This was the time of the Cambodia action and I remember our base pay doubled during this period of time due to VOLAR. I got to reenlist and spent 23 years and retired a Master Sergeant. This was my second tour (my first was airborne infantry 1/8th Cav ABN 65-66 and my third was 525 MI Group (CI), Siagon 72-73)

  56. Hi- Spec 4 Greene served Jul69-Jun70.at Tm 21. Was in the order of Battle Shop. Sorry, I didn’t know any of the above- they were before and after me.

  57. Hi Ed, I am a fellow Gold Star son. My father CWO Wayne E. Jones was KIA 17 Aug 67 flying out of Pleiku. The reason that I am on this page is a MACV Advisory Team 21 member Ronald Johnson died in the crash and I have been trying to find a picture of him. The Virtual Wall.org shows your dad serving with team 36 and Army.togetherweserved.com has a description of the attack in which he was killed. Also google his name or the Coffelt Database. Check out the website SDIT.org. Let me know if you want to talk or need more help. Good Luck, Wayne A. Jones, Jr.

    • Wayne – thanks for the immediate response. I will follow the lead on the links you provided. I have been to some of the sites but I look forward to the others. Thanks.
      Ed

      • Hi Ed – I knew your dad and family, including you as a little guy, when I was an E4 Counterintelligence Agent attached to the 8th Infantry Division in Bad Kreuznach, W. Germany. Straight out of MI school. I was there for 2+ years, from January of 1969 to July of 1971, at which time I rotated home and was discharged. I think about your dad often, he was a wonderful man and a mentor to newbies like me who worked for him. I also remember one time when your mom and dad had all the unattached young guys over for Thanksgiving dinner one year. I’ve never forgotten that act of kindness, and that was just one of many. I’ve also shed a few tears at The Wall for him. Not sure that you will see this note, as your correspondence is a few years old. If you do see it, send me a note if you’d like to talk sometime. bill.abel@mchsi.com

        • Bill – thanks for reaching out to me and responding to my inquiry. I will reach out to you via email. Can’t wait to hear your stories.
          Ed

  58. Great website – thanks all for your service.
    My father Edmund Roberge was killed in action on 16 March 1971 in Pleku, Phu Nhon HQ. He was part of MACV team just not sure what team. Does anyone recall him or serve at that time. Thanks. Ed

  59. I was the communications Sgt. at Pleiku sector headquarters from September 1967 to September 1968. I was responsible for radio communications between sector headquarters and our four subsectors. We used RT-524 and PRC-25 FM radios and a KWM2A and PRC-74 SSB radios.

    • John Beasley Pleiku 1965-1966. I was Bn Advisor to 23rd Ranger Bn and knew all the members of 21st Ranger Bn Advisor Tm. Maybe I can help if you have any names. John

      • Hello John, My father was in the 23rd Ranger BN from Jan 65 to Jan 66 in Pleiku/Tuy-Hoa. Do you recall any of the SFCs? Thanks in advance.
        Donna

        • D. Ramil, would you please get in touch with me. I was the radio op. for the 23rd ranger battalion starting Feb. 66.
          Lost all my memorabilia in a fire a few years ago and trying to locate any former team members. Thank you.

        • Donna-please send me his name. The Sfc’s that were assigned when I was there were Sfc David Silvernail and Sfc McCloskey. I am proud to say that I got both of them promoted to Sfc from Ssg (staff sergeant) just as
          we left Tuy Hoa. John Beasley

    • My uncle MSG Clyde Hall was an advisor with the 21st ARVN from Nov 1965 – APR 66 when he was KIA. Happen to know / remember him?

    • Have you checked with Bill Miller, the BDQ contact for the 75 Ranger Regiment Association. I can give you contact information for Bill.

  60. Was assigned to the Direct Air Support Center at the Army MAC-V compound from Aug 67-68. I was an Air Force radio operator who provided air support all over II Corps when requested by the Army. Primarily, F-4 Phantoms.. Was there on Jan 31, 1968 when the Tet offensive began. Ended up making the Air Force a career and retired in 1989. Would love to hear from anyone from that time frame. Steve Fee steve134@comcast.net

  61. I was at Team 21 between May 71 and January 72 with a period of time at Arty Hill. We were a team of 5 called II Corps(Red) which was part of the 525th MI Group. I have spoke with others assigned to the team earlier but have not yet found any assigned during the same time period.

  62. My father CWO Wayne E. Jones served with the 18th Avn. Co. 2nd Platoon at Pleiku. He lived at the MACV compound at Pleiku and flew out of Camp Holloway. His Otter aircraft crashed on Dragon Mountain 17 Aug 1967, taking the lives of all the crew and a passenger Pfc Ronald J. Johnson from MACV Adv. Team 21.
    Would like to hear from anyone that new Mr. Johnson or remembers the 18th Avn. Co. members there in 1967.

    • I recall the crash which killed our courier whom I believe was Johnson around then. He would come to the TOC, pick up dispatches and leave, not much chatting was done. It is a long time ago and detailed memory fails but I recall the crash not being on Dragon Mountain which was devoid of vegetation and stuck out like a sore thumb, also called Titty Mountain, but in a the mountainous jungle area further south in bad, foggy, weather. Having flown many hours in II Corps as a passenger the weather could turn on you in a second and the flight get very tense.

    • Hi Wayne, I was Ron Johnson’s bunkmate at Team 21 and he was a good looking, young 21-22 year old kid from I believe the Seattle, Washington area. We had a small group of buddies in our compound with various duties and Ron and some of the other guys whose names escape me would shoot hoops sometimes and just kid around with each other. This is the first time I have been at this site as my buddy just told me yesterday to try this. We had friends there, Marty from Maryland, Ingrahm from New Jersey, and Kenny all of whom I have never been able to get in touch with. I transferred up to Team 21 in Pleiku from Saigon in February 1967 and came home August 29th. I had applied for an early out for college here in New York and surprisingly left in August rather than November. On August 17th Ron and I both left on different flights and that was the last morning that I saw him. He went out on his regular courier flights and I would fly with a buck sergeant on the Caribou aircraft where we would go from base to base(An Khe, Ban Me Thout, Dak to and Qui Nhon, along the coast in II Corp each week picking up and dropping South Vietnamese ARVN draftees. Ironically, I was preparing to leave for home within a day or two of that flight and mentioned to Ron that morning that I would see him for dinner and drinks that evening when we returned. Sadly, that was the last day I saw Ron and left for home the following day. Whenever I stop down at the Vietnam Veterans Wall in Washington, D.C. every once in a while(less in recent years) I stop by Ron Johnson’s name as well as three other veteran buddies from home who never made it back either. Now I am 70 and I was one of the fortunate guys to make it back ok and live pretty much a full life. I am truly sorry that your dad and Ron never had the same opportunity. At least now I actually know where their plane went down over 48 years ago. Thank you for allowing me to express my thoughts. Ken Kraft

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