Team 90 Tay Ninh

MACV Team 90 – Tay Ninh.

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  1. Was in Tay Ninh from Dec. ’70 until Aug. 71. MAT 81. Used to operate along Straight Edge Woods and spent time on top of Nuy Bah Dinh. We had top and bottom and Charlie had middle. Used to call in Spooky at night to use up their leftover ammo. The Red hose. Watched Charlie’s trucks coming out of Cambodia. We had security for Army/Airforce relay station in old Cao Dai temple. Long time ago guys.

    • Hoping you are having a good Veterans Day. When I was a 2Lt Inf and at the time the only officer on MAT 97 in Phuc Ninh district, I believe you assisted me in a civic action project. I recall you had the mustache and sand bags lining the floor of the jeep you drove around in the province. The project was near the refugee tent city and a PF outpost. The local manioc root harvesters would dump about one-third of their ox cart load when they crossed this ditch/rut in the dirt road, and block the road while they retrieved their harvest. The dirt road had just gained some strategic value as we were reclaiming an abandoned outpost west of the ditch in an area of overgrown rice paddies. I told Maj Phil Brown (the DSA at the time) about it and he said Lieutenant write it up and contact the Engineer Advisor which was you. We went out together and looked the physical site, and you got me culvert materials to bury which would provide unobstructed smooth access across the ditch. It was a solid plan. Unfortunately, the PF started the job while our MAT was not on site. We arrived after the roads had been cleared and were open to traffic. When we got there we found the culvert incompletely positioned, and no cooperation to reinstall and place the headwalls we had planned. The MAT had great fun at ribbing me about the project whenever they could. At least the ditch/rut had been replaced with a more manageable hump in the road and there were fewer episodes of obstructing the dirt road. Hearts and Minds brother, happy Veterans Day.

      • Robert,

        Yes, I had a mustache, but so did many others. I don’t remember having sandbags in my jeep nor do I remember helping on a civic action project. I was Engineer Advisor from late June 1969 ’til mid June 1970. My successor also had a mustache, I think I’d have to look at his picture to be sure.

        Your account has me baffled, somewhat because I don’t remember the names of our four districts. I don’t remember getting culvert material either.

        Are you on Facebook? If so, I’d like to continue this discussion offline. If you are, then I’ll open my FB account so that you could friend request me.

        Meanwhile, Happy Veterans Day and hope to hear back from you.


      • From your reply to Sergeant Brewer, I think that you are remembering my Province Engineer Advisor successor, not me.

        You wrote “… We were the MAT on the mountain from November 1970 through April 1971.”

        Given that I went home about 10 June 1970, it’s unlikely that we crossed paths.

        Best regards,

        Mark Blass

        • Thank you for your reply. Phuoc Ninh district was west of Tay Ninh city and bordered Cambodia. I was in Phuoc Ninh from June 1970 until MAT 97 was deployed to Nui Ba Den when the 25th Division withdrew security. You are right, I must have dealt with your successor. I cannot recall his name but was very helpful. The culvert project would have been in July-August 1970. Lots of mustaches…thanks again.

  2. 1Lt C Vernon Hartline Jr Team 90 Tay Ninh Provice III Corp Go Dau Ha District MAT 833 Tra Vo - Ben Cau says:

    I was a MAT Team Leader (#83) in summer 1971 – Spring 1972 in TraVo (at the old Michelin Compound on highway to Tay Ninh) and Ben Hau on the Cambodian side of the river from Go Dau Ha off Highway 1. Worked with RF’s and PF’s in the area, bridge and at the border. Love to hear from anyone in the area at the time.

    • Hi. Chuong-uy. Welcome to the Team 90 site. My time in the area largely overlapped with yours. I went to Hieu Thien as Deputy DSA in the summer of 1970. After moving to Phu Khuong (DDSA) and Khiem Hanh (DSA), I returned to Hieu Thien in the fall of 1971. I left Tay Ninh for Lebanon in early 1972. At least two others from your time in the District also check on to this sit from time to time.
      Bruce Beardsley

      • Greetings, my name is Peter Trefz and I was the Phoenix advisor team 90, Tay Nihn Province, Phouc Ninh District 1970.

      • In 1972 , i recall having green coconut water on the side of the road with a FSO who drove a Ford pickup. I was attached to Go Dau Ha with my MAT team and we had the Cambodian side of the river along Hwy #1 to the border. I remember the FSO driving solo to Phenom Phen (or whatever it was called at the time- maybe after the Prince) for a vacation which I thought was the most dangerous thing I could possibly imagine (and I was going on weekly ambushes with PF’s and RF’s) . Was that you?

        • It wasn’t me. When in Tay Ninh I either drove an International Scout or a Jeep. And although I did a few reckless things, driving to Phnom Penh wasn’t one of them (I did go there by air in the summer of ’71 though). Bruce

          • what color was the Scout?

            • When I first was in Tay Ninh (1970) I had a clapped out green one. When I moved to Khiem Hanh in the spring of ’71 I got a newish gold colored Scout. Much more reliable. I brought that Scout along when I moved back to Hieu Thien. Bruce

  3. My late Father, SFC Crutchfield, Walter, served with Team 90 from approximately Apr 69 – Apr 70. He never talked about it much and I totally understand why. Maybe there are some of his brothers on this page that might be able to help me find out for information about him and the troops he served with.

  4. I was on MAT team 90 in Tay Ninh fall of ’68’ to May ’69’ . We were attacked 5 nights in a row in spring of ’69’ while at Mo Cong outpost. I was an artillery officer and called in artillery to the enemy’s surprise..

    • Was there in early ’71. Wild times, incredible fog. Had ARVN Co. In charge of hill and AF AR Radio relay from Co Dai temple. Basically ate beans and weenies when you could chase flies away long enough to scoop up food. Used to sit at night with Sgt. and fire mortar rounds at gook trucks coming out of Cambodia. Then of course there was always Spooky coming back with half basic load to use somewhere. Blew our gen. One night but was probably because I was outside perimeter tossing baseballs down their hidyholes.

    • LT Hughes, my name is Sandy O’Dea, my Dad, LTC Tom O’Dea landed in country in Sept 1968 and eventually in Tay Ninh in October as the MACV adviser, did you happen to know him? He was killed on Christmas Day 1968.

  5. I was a member of DCATM 99, served on Nui Ba Den Nov. 1970 to Feb. 1971, after U.S. 25th pulled out of Vietnam. ARVN 25th took control of Cu Chi and Nui Ba Den. I maintained the ARP signal converter relays while up on Nui Ba Den. We were overrun, late January 1971….I can find no after action reports of the incident. The TOC was destroyed, the Pagoda was burned/destroyed and many enemy lost their lives as well as a number of ARVNs. There were U.S. troops on the mountain serving as radio relay personnel in the TOC. Any one recall being there for this event?? Jim Brewer, SGT MACV TM-99

    • Jim,
      I was there as advisor to ARVN in July of 1971 as Team leader in charge of ARVN security (yeah right). Remember Cao Dai temple, or what was left of it as radio relay for USA and USAF. Used to look at Cambodia border at night to see NVA trucks bringing supplies. Tried to mortar and Spooky them. Some success. Remember FOG. That was Spooky. Some action. Long time and several lifetimes ago. Welcome home BROTHER!

      • Thanks for the comeback on my message. I have never found an after action report regarding the incident on Nui Ba Den. The were flying in Chinooks with very large water buckets, looked much like a dumpster, to put out the fires in the TOC and Black Virgin Pagoda. The TOC was damaged very badly and they destroyed our generator. Thank God we drove the bad guys out. Welcome home G.I.

        • They blew our gen. also. One night. Probably because I got bored and walked down outside the perimeter and dropped baseballs down their hideyholes. Good old days. Welcome home Brother.

    • I was the DIOCC Advisor at Phu Khuong District from Sep 70 – Sep 71 & Nui Ba Den was in my district. I can’t be sure of the time frame but I do remember going to Nui Ba Den after they were hit. I believe Rich Kidwell from the 525 MI Group was still working in Tay Ninh at the time of this incident & may be able to shed some light on this.

    • Sgt Brewer, I check the MACV Teams website from time to time and saw your posting and can shed some information about this event. Mobile Advisory Team III 97 (MAT 97) took over the American command of Nui Ba Den when the 25th Division pulled off the mountain as security. 1Lt Bill Kessler and I were the officer advisers on the MAT. I was also 1Lt Infantry on the MAT. We were the MAT on the mountain from November 1970 through April 1971. Bear with me as this takes a little explaining. At the time the MAT took over the pagoda was the main area for Air Force radio relay had a wooden structure on top of it which included an observation deck and a control tower booth to manage the helicopters coming into the various three landing pads on the summit. Above the control tower was a kind of open air crow’s nest. Well, our medic, Doc Ronald Kennedy, got the idea that the crow’s nest would make a great fighting position. Sure enough, when you were in the crow’s nest you could see completely around the rocky irregular perimeter of the summit. So, we outfitted the crow’s nest with sand bags and a nifty tripod fitting (which the 25th had left us) for the MAT’s M60 machine gun. Then we placed several hand grenades, flares and star cluster flares, and ammo cans of M60, M79, and M16 ammunition for emergency use in the nest. There was one time when a bunker on the east side of the perimeter caught fire and we scrambled into the crow’s nest with the M60 and PRC25 and could observe no enemy action from outside the perimeter. We thought, okay this position preparation is really a good thing and we were ready to go. Now let me inform you that at first our MAT was assigned Nui Ba Den radio relay security and then after a few weeks MAT 97 was also given the mission of advising the road security force which secured the road leading around the mountain to the west and then turned north to Cambodia. The 25th Division engineers mined laterite from the western side of Nui Ba Den to build up the road before they completely left Vietnam. So half of the MAT was on the road security while the other half was on the summit. We were unable to have our MAT together in one place as we would rotate team members on and off the mountain every few weeks to accomplish both missions. While this was going on I believe it was the Air Force which decided to expand some capability on the summit. They sent a work crew to start building on top of the wooden deck which was on top of the pagoda. They used electric tools and were wiring the construction. Then a fire started. It was night and Doc Kennedy and I were on the road security mission at the time in a night defense position. We could see the glow on the mountain top and watched the helicopters bringing in the “buckets” of water to try to douse the flames. In the meantime all the ordinance which was stashed in the crow’s nest started to explode from the fire. It was terrible. Eventually, the fire was put out. The base structure of the pagoda survived but all the wooden structures on top of it were destroyed. The next day the place was covered in “brass” looking around. Was it faulty wiring or sabotage? Ultimately, it was placed in a non-enemy action category, but who knows? The observation deck, control tower, and crow’s nest was never rebuilt while MAT 97 was on Nui Ba Den. Hope you have had a good Veterans Day.

      • I am surprised that we never met. I do not recall any other MACV personnel on the mountain. I lived in a conex layered with many, many sandbags. On top of my hooch was a crows nest of sorts, a defensive position. As I walked out of my front door I faced the huge bolder that the pagoda was on top of. If I turned left out of my front door I would quickly at the shed where that ARPs were located. If I turned right and walked a fair distance I would arrive at the TOC which was pretty much destroyed by the fire, the ARP shed was pretty much destroyed also. When I was on Nui Ba Den the deck you spoke of had 50 cal. mounted on it…..which was set to single-shot and it had a very large starlight scope mounted on it. There was a sign-up sheet for those who wanted to watch the saddle and try to pick-off bad guys. If you were there the same time I was, where was you hooch located, was it in the inner-compound or the outer-compound? There were US Army guys from various outfits manning radio relays in the TOC, I recall also there were a couple of Green Berets up there too.

    • I was the DIOCC Adviser from Phu Khuong District from Sep 70 -Sep 71 & Nui Ba Den was in my A.O. I remember taking a Huey to your outpost after you were overrun in January 1970. There were still bodies in the perimeter wire. I remember a Captain Ramos & Lt. Peterson from the Mat Team in our A.O.

      Cpt. John L Valles
      AKA Dai Uy Map

      • Memories, memories. Capt Ramos and Lt. Petersen and their MATT were in Khiem Hanh District when I moved there from Phu Khuong in the spring of 1971.. Ramos had just returned from a medevac for a head would (his third Purple Heart, I recall). That summer all the guys but me left Khiem Hanh, And of course, Sgt. Kennedy had joined the Phu Khuong team when he came off the mountain. I’ll remain silent as to off duty activities.

  6. John Valles. This is Rich Kidwell. I ran team 32, 525 mi, out of Tay ninh city, while you were there. I was in civilian cover and provided Intel reports to you. We shared a few beers and. Did a fire fly mission one time. I have a picture of you in an album
    Also remember Pete Trefz from other district. My email is

    • Rich, glad to hear from you after all these years. I responded to you via your email address. Did you receive my email?

    • Jane, you echo my hopes and prayers. I had actually done some research on your father and have read the transcript of his oral history from the Library of Congress. Quite a fascinating career. With everything that he had done in his career, how did you happen to come across this website?

  7. I was at Lai Khe with the 587th signal.we arrived around the end of March 1967..a platoon went to Lai Khe one went to Chu Chi and one went to Nan Nighn. We arived at nam by a troop ship. call THE U.S.WEIGAL at Vung Tau..looking for guys I served with..I worked at the Comm Center at Lai Khe

  8. My father served with Advisory Team 90 from April 1965 to March of 1966 3 Bn 9th Reg 5th Arvn Div.his name was Terry Busby , he passed away in July of 2009. Am trying to find out as much as I can , your help would be very grateful Thank You Torhres L Busby

  9. Tom, my name is Peter Trefz and I was the Phoenix advisor in Phouc Ninh District, Tay Nin Province team 90 for most of 1970. My first DSA was Major Phil Brown and my second DSA when I left was Captain Steve Hodge. The RF CO was Captain Anh, A very courageous and qualified commander. My interpreter’s name was Ziem. I have been trying to locate the team RTO Spec 4 Scott Douglass. Any help would be appreciated.

    LT. Peter Trefz
    Very Retired

    • I was there with Scott Douglas 1971-1972. Was a substitute RTO and worked an advance command post with Scott. This was MACV Team 90.
      Scott and I worked in the TOC, and I did the intsum (intelligence summary) for Lt LLoyd, Col. Jiminez (not HIMinez) daily briefing.. My roommate was Tom Stover who worked in the Phoenix program. Also Jim Garn, the company clerk.

      Mike Stephens

      • Thanks for posting Mike. I have been looking for Scott Douglas and am wondering if you might know how I can get in touch with him.

      • Are you sure it was not CAPT. Lloyd who served up on Nuey Bah Dinh as a basic enemy of LTC. Jiminez, not (Himimez). We were not exactly friends. Me and Jiminez. Remember the DOG someone left up there and I had to take care of?

    • Lt. Trefz, from Brooklyn if I am not mistaken, as I hope you will recall I was on MAT 97 which was parked on the Phouc Ninh compound when I met you in 1970. I remember first getting delivered to the district compound and noticing several flat tires on the jeeps in front of the district team bunkers and was told VC mortars had taken them out. Well the basketball halfcourt only had minimal damage. I remember Sgt. Diem as a good guy. I am not sure but maybe you recall. MAT 97 was deployed from Phuc Ninh to Nui Ba Den in Oct-Nov 1970 as the 25th pulled their infantry support from the summit. Spec Douglass always supported us however he could. Once sent me back to Nui Ba Den with a silenced M-16 with a M-60 bipod attached. Another time sent me with a M-79. Both very appreciated. He was the greatest. Last I saw Sgt. Diem was in the province compound maybe a couple of months before I left in 1971. Would like to hear from you, I hope this contact attaches my email address.

      • Hi Robert, Yes I do believe I remember you. I seem to remember your team providing training for the RF company in Phouc Ninh. I believe for a while your team was stationed at Mo Cong Hamlet before going to Nui Ba Den. Spec. Scott Douglass and I became friends and stood side by side on several occasions when the compound came under VC attack. He always acted as my RTO on cordon and search ops and on night ambush ops. When my tour ended I ended up in CA. At the same time Scott had extended his tour in Vietnam for an early out. He was given a 30 day leave and I spent time with him and his family in Orange County, CA. We even dated a couple of nursing students has had been writing us in Vietnam. I believe I have a photo of you standing with the other team members. Sorry, I did not receive your email address but if you send it to me I will attach the photo. My email is

        • I will be sending you a note via normal USPS. It will make more sense when you receive it. You are the first person I have had any contact with from Phuoc Ninh. Thanks.

    • Lt very retiredTrefz. I remember Captain Anh very well-agree he was a good officer. I’ve always wondered what happened to him and the rest of the Vietnamese officers with whom we served.

      I’m planning to return to Vietnam for the first time next year-50 years later. I’ve taken the satellite view from Tay Ninh City to Phouc Ninh-Tay Ninh West base camp is gone though the airstrip is still visible. The district headquarters in the fork of the road is gone too.

      There is a gondola to the top of Nui Ba Dinh-I have a 1:50,000 map on the wall of my office which includes Nui Ba Dinh, Tay Ninh City, and surrounding area.

      I’ll take some pictures on my trip and post them on the Team 90 site.

      • Hi Tom and thanks for posting on this site. I’ve spoken with several vets that have made the trip back to Vietnam. For most it was a positive experience as I hope it will be for you. Take plenty of photos as I’m sure I and others would enjoy viewing them.

        Peter Trefz

        • Hello All: I’ve been back to Tay Ninh three times since the end of the war. It, like the rest of Vietnam, continues to evolve. About the only things that seem the same are the Cao Dai Holy See and Nui Ba Den (at least seen from a distance). Oh yes, and the new road between Cu Cui and Tay Ninh City cuts thru Khiem Hanh District, but should you take the old road that we all know (QL 22) much of the countryside remains unchanged (but the built up areas are more built up) Enjoy the trip. Bruce Beardsley, Adv Tm 90 (1970 – 72), DDSA and then DSA, Khiem Hanh and Hieu Thien Districts.

            • Randy! Great to learn you’re still above ground. I, too, have been back to Vietnam a number of times since leaving Team 90. I was most recently there last Sept and Oct, which included my third trip to Tay Ninh since the war. On that trip I also visited Dien Bien Phu for the first time, and also spend a few days in II Corps, where I was stationed my first VN tour. Now in SW Florida, where the eye of Hurricane Irma made landfall and the eye of the storm passed over my house. I’ll send you an e-mail to catch up. Ong Bruce

          • Thank you for let us know the the changes now in Tay Ninh areas. I was Khiem Hanh S2 (1970 – Jun 1972). Capt. Springer Was my Adv. and I’m looking for Him.

            • Hi, Dai Chu: Glad you’re in touch. My last contact with Cpt Springer, bythen promoted to Major, was in 1976. I was the American Consul in Kabul, Afghanistan then, and he was assigned to India with a foreign area studies program. Bruce,

  10. I was assigned to the Phouc Ninh District west of Tay Ninh from Jan ’68-Aug ’69. Looking for anyone who might have been assigned to Advisory Team 90 during that time-especially my RTO Sp4 Berardi.
    Tom Hardy
    Captain Infantry

    • My father, SSG Robert L Lamson, was assigned to AdvTm90 during your time there up to Nov 68 when he was medevac’d out. I know its a long shot and even my memory of the old days isn’t all that great anymore, but am hoping that you may have crossed paths with him. I have photos of his time in Nam so I can provide you a couple to help shake the cobwebs loose if needed LOL. I lost my father to cancer in 2013 so I am trying to connect with those he served with.

      Semper Fi
      SSgt Tony Lamson, USMC (ret)

    • Tom, my Dad, LTC (infantry) Tom O’Dea served as an advisor in Tay Nihn between Sept. ’68 to Dec ’68, when he was killed in a helicopter accident. Would you have crossed paths with my Dad.
      Thank you, Sandy O’Dea

  11. I served as the RTO at Phu Khoung from about May 67 to SEP 67. MAJ Carl Schrouder and I were the first to be assigned to Phu Khoung when the SF Team move to another base. We were joined soon thereafter by a SFC and then a SP4 medic. We initially reported to B-32 Special Forces Team in Tay Ninh. B-32 was commanded by a COL Hapersat. Sometime later MACV CORDS opened an office in Tay Ninh and we reported to them. We worked closely with the CIA Station at Tay Ninh and the PRUs in our area.
    Prior to Tay Ninh I spent a year assigned to Team 99 with 4/46/25 ARVN. The 4/46 HQ was in Can Gouic in Long An Province.
    I am just wondering if there is anyone from that time frame on this sight.

    • Hi John
      I was in Tay Ninh at sub-sector Khiem Hanh from Mar 67-Nov 66,
      we too replaced a group from B-32 and inherited 18 PRU’s. I was
      inf advisor with a medic and SA Cpt Lally (I believe),RTO Rodigus(sp) E-mail me at
      my home E-mail (,Thanks.

  12. LT Peter Trefz. I was the Phoenix advisor Phouc Ninh District, Tay Ninh Province 1970. I’m looking for any members of MACV team 90 during that time.

    • CPT. John L Valles, I was the Phoenix advisor in Phu Khuong Tay Ninh from Sep 1970 to Sep 1971. LTC Adam Jimenez was the APSA & Parker Wyman was the PSA during this time. Major Love was the PIOCC advisor during my time. My first DSA was Vince Kaufmann an FSR & Major Fred Johnson was my DSA from Dec 1970 to Sep 1971.

  13. My name is Randy Castro. I served with Team 90 Tay Ninh East from 14 February, 1968 to 29 December 1968. Our compound was an old French hospital. My MOS was 72B40, a crypto technician sending and receiving classified messages. Anyone out there remember me? Would like to hear from anyone.

    • Randy, My father (SSG Robert Lamson) was with Team 90 (see post below from me for details). You were both there the same time frame and am hoping that maybe you both crossed tracks. If there is a common knowledge, please feel free to connect with me. Any info would be much appreciated.

  14. Nguyen Ngoc Son just posted a request asking for assistance in locating others who were on our team. For those of you who don’t know him, he was among the finest and most honorable men I met in my 2 1/2 years in Viet Nam. While on the Hieu Thien team he received both a US Bronze Star (with “V”) and ArCom — both rare for a Vietnamese EM to receive, and well earned. Bruce Beardsley

  15. My name is Jim Grant; I served at the MACV Team 90 compound. I will also have Paul Tuttle list some names of the people he knew there as well. I was a radio operator and when I first got there in December 1969; SFC Green was my section chief in the commo bunker. Others I knew,,,I mentioned Paul above, Wayne Ficken, Jim West, Rhodes, Colonel Cloud was the commandant, Clarke, Pete Lang, Ed McGee…there are several more faces I recall, I know some of their names. Maybe Paul can help me out. I recall the dog Charlie…kind of reddish brown. Is any of this ringing a bell with anyone? I was assigned to the 1st Sig Bde, 2nd Sig Group, 86th Sig Bn (Cu Chi), 587th Signal Company (Tay Ninh West…Base Camp). My first 3 months I served at base camp as a 31 M radio operator and driving convoy to Cu Chi…made a lot of trips to the rock quarry at the base of Nui-Ba-Den. Second 3 months, I alternated duty at base camp and assignment on Nui-Ba-Den operating the relay station there…then I came to MACV. I DEROSed in May, 1970. There are several faces right now that I see…but their names escape me; I cannot recall the name of the SSG that worked in the mess hall…he was a real friendly guy that was bald on top and wore glasses. And Doc, the medic that generally ran the bar. Goodness, I wish I could recall more names…forgive me please, my email is Jim

  16. Message

    My name SFC Son Ngoc Nguyen, I was interpreter of Advisory Team 90 Hieu Thien District, Tay Ninh Province 1967-1972. I looking for Captain Waters, Major Cain,Major shurmp, captain Bell ..ect or anyone know me. Please contact me at

    • My name is Roger Skold and I served with you as radio operator in Go Dau Ha? Major Cain was my superior for the first months of my tour of duty. I was there from Auf 68 until Aug of 69 when I was wounded and was transferred back to the United States.

  17. I arrived at TSN on 26 August 1970 and had orders for the 3909th/3910th Special Activities Sq.. Was an E-5 USAF (x-ray tech) and was told that I was going to Tay Ninh as an advisor to my counterpart at the Provincial Hospital. Went through inprocessing, issued weapons, and the next day was called to the commander’s office and told that my orders had been red-lined. Reassigned and sent to the 483rd USAF Hospital at Cam Ranh Bay. Interested in finding anyone who might have been assigned to the hospital at Tay Ninh about that time. Thanks to all who served; and, thank you all who gave all.

    • I was an interpreter with 2nd Civil Affairs, and stationed at the Team 90 compound. I helped to build a new TB ward at the Tay Ninh hospital. It was finished by the time I left country in October 1970. You can find a picture of it at and scroll down to the second 6th platoon.

      • Might you have known my brother, Dave Walker (recently deceased) also an interpreter with Team 90 in 1970? Any information greatly appreciated.

        • I did know Dave, and so sorry to hear of his passing. I was his replacement, and did overlap with him for a while. Dave was quite fluent, well liked and a big help to me in getting acquainted. I believe he had been stationed at one or two other places before he arrived in Tay Ninh. I have an old picture of Dave I could send to you, if you can provide an address.

        • My name is Dave Umthun and was stationed with Dave in Phuc Tuy and Tay Ninh as the team medic. So sorry to hear of his passing, he was a great guy.

          • I am so very grateful for your kind words–and once again heartened by the camaraderie shown by those who served alongside Dave. My brother made a tape while stationed in Phuc Tuy. If you would like to hear it, please reply to

            • I would like to hear the tape. Also, could I get your email address for future correspondence? I am corresponding by email with former members of the team and we would like to get more information about Dave.

              Dave U.

        • I was there with Joel and Lloyd. Also Jim Wallis and Dave Walker were there when I first got to Tay Ninh compound.

          I know Joel was going back, but I haven’t heard since then.

  18. Anyone serve in Doc Hoa or Cu Chi in 1964 – 1965? Gerald Foley here ,still alive and somewhat kicking. Love to hear from anyone of that time.

    • I was there 64-65 with the ARVN 5th, 3/9 of the 9th Reg. N/E of Ga Da Ha. Operated in and near Chu Chi. Ed Warneld

  19. CW4 Ret Tom Harney,
    I flew with the 187th AHC (Crusaders), JUL 69-DEC 69. Reading these posts with the names of places around there brings back a lot of memories. Later flew with the 190th AHC and picked up the 5 SF HQ mission in early 1970. Yep, cross border stuff.

  20. This is in response to Joe Johnston’s inquiry. Captain Springer was the S-2 advisor of the Khiem Hanh District Team in 1971, when I was the District Senior Advisor. Without checking my papers in storage, I’d wager he’s the one you’re interested in. Captain Springer left Khiem Hanh in the summer of 1971. I saw him again when I lived in Kabul, Afghanistan — he came for a visit as he was then a major and Foreign Area Studies student in India. That was my last contact with him. Bruce Beardsley

  21. For the past 30+ years, I have owned the Chicom 54 pistol (with “capture papers”) brought back by William H. Springer of Advisory Team #90 APO 96314 (whatever that all means). It originally had a ratty Chinese holster that was modified with the prongs so it could be carried on a GI web belt. Any information on this man or the unit would be very much appreciated.

  22. Looking for Captain John W Dargle that was involved with VN District Chief Major Nguyen Van Mach in Khiem Hanh District, Tay Ninh Province, July 1966, building the “New Life Hamlet” of Ben Vang. Captain Dargle spoke Vietnamese like a native. I was on the MACV team that replaced his Special Forces “A” team. in Khiem Hanh.

  23. Kim…..My name is Dwight Ladd. I was in Tay Ninh Team 90 from May 69 to July 70 and knew your father fairly well. He was a very nice guy that everyone liked. Had a great sense of humor. Always laughing and being funny. I worked under him as a radio operator at the TOC. I remember when his chopper went down. It was payday and he was delivering pay to the mobile advisory team members. He had asked me to go with him but I declined because I was working nights at the TOC (tactical operations center). He was so well liked that they named our compound after him. He was nicknamed Chicken Little. He had that painted on his helmet. I have been to The Wall in Washington DC and saw his name on it. I liked him a lot and will never forget him.
    I hope this info is of some help to you.
    Dwight Ladd

  24. My name is Kim Wallace, The only child of SSgt Gilbert E Wallace killed November 1, 1969 Tay Ninh. I never got to know my Dad, I am wondering if anyone knew him and could tell me about him…

    • Dwight Ladd permalink February 12, 2015 4:08 pm Kim…..My name is Dwight Ladd. I was in Tay Ninh Team 90 from May 69 to July 70 and knew your father fairly well. He was a very nice guy that everyone liked. Had a great sense of humor. Always laughing and being funny. I worked under him as a radio operator at the TOC. I remember when his chopper went down. It was payday and he was delivering pay to the mobile advisory team members. He had asked me to go with him but I declined because I was working nights at the TOC (tactical operations center). He was so well liked that they named our compound after him. He was nicknamed Chicken Little. He had that painted on his helmet. I have been to The Wall in Washington DC and saw his name on it. I liked him a lot and will never forget him. I hope this info is of some help to you. Dwight Ladd

      Dwight Dwight Ladd

    • Kim:

      I did not know your father. I was there in 1970 – 1971, after he died. However, I do a photo of the gate to the Tay Ninh Team 90 compound with your father’s name on it. I will be glad to e-mail that photo to you if you want it. You can e-mail me at if you want the photo.

      Dixon Lee

    • Dear Kim,
      I knew your father in that I saw him at least once per week when he delivered mail and supplies to our remote outpost on the Cambodian boarder in Tay Ninh Province. As noted by Dwight Ladd he was very a friendly NCO and I enjoyed our brief conversations. I remember that he Wen down twice in helicopter crashes. The first time was on the day of the Army/Navy foot ball game in 1969 when his copper crashed into the water near the Navy docks on the river. He received a broken arm in that crash, and I warned him that he was perhaps spending too much time in the air, and might want to ask for some relief from the supply chopper duty. He loved serving in this capacity and continued to fly.

      On the day he was killed I flew with him and two other lieutenants to province headquarters in Tay Ninh. That afternoon I had just ordered a cool drink at the base club, when he and the two lieutenants informed me that they were ready to return to their outposts. He suggested that I could finish my drink and catch another chopper that would be leaving in about an hour. Thankfully, I took his advice and waited. Their chopper was shot down by the VC and all on board died. The other members on my team thought I had died with them and were quite surprised when I walked into our HQ one hour later.

      The headquarters compound was named for him because he was so well liked by everyone on the team. I’m sorry you never got to know him.

      John Loving
      formally Senior Advisor MAT 66, 1st. Lt.

    • Kim,my name is Ray Varassi, just found this site. I served with and shared sleeping quarters with Dwight Ladd and Stan Kozloff who are on this site. Met your Dad many times and agree with Dwight that is was a great man and everyone loved him. I also worked in the S1 admin office for LTC Cloud, our commanding officer. I typed your Dad’s Air Medal award and also the letter of condolences from LTC Cloud. Sadly, that was one of my duties in that office. Thought you may this interesting. Take care..

    • I remember your father. Long time ago, though. Was he bald?

      I have a photo of our compound gate with his name above it.

  25. My name is Jack Howe, I was at the Wallace E, Gilbert compound from June 70 to June 71. I was attached to MACV Team 90 but was with the 535th Signal Battalion, 579th Signal Battalion. I was a Spec 4 and was the Crypto technician that worked graveyards. I used to send/ receive messages for all the Intel of each unit section. AF, Army, civilian Intel etc. My partner in crime was Kevin Erbentraut and we had a crypto repairman called MOP. Kevin and I first spent a little time at the 25th Infantry Tay Ninh Base camp which at that time was turned over to the ARVN’s. At the EM club on the compound their was a girl named May. I was messing around with a little girl named TAM. She cried her heart out when I left. Well I can’t seem to get much info either about this MACV Team 90 or the Signal units I was with. Oh, I seem to remember there was a graveyard of an important Vietnamese doctor buried there and we had Cambodian guards at the front gate and perimeter. I think in the year I was there we got attacked twice but nothing seriously. I re-upped and was assigned to the 125th Signal Battalion, 25th Infantry Division, Schofield Barracks, HI where I was Spec 5, Crypto Custodian and Discharged July, 74. currently live in Las Vegas, NV.

    • I was 1LT and Tay Ninh Province Engineer Advisor June ’69-June ’70.

      Your memory of Dr. Ti’s memorial is correct. He was the wealthiest person in the province and the owner of our compound. Every month I visited him at his home clinic to pay our rent. He died sometime in early 1970 and his family came to us to arrange for his burial in his memorial shrine. I was clueless about a memorial shrine on the compound grounds, so I took them around to look for it. Turned out that our predecessors had built a wooden shack on top of his shrine and were using it to store tools and equipment. How embarrassing for us. Anyway, we had to tear down our shack and restore the shrine to its original condition. I have photos of Dr. Ti’s memorial inside the shrine.

  26. I served as ADSA Khiem Hanh District from August 1969 to late Novemer 1969 and I had the the distinct honor of serving with two of the best officers a young Captain could serve with. Their example and influence are still pronounced 45 years later. They were Major Philip Lundberg and Major Donald A Price, and if per chance they ever view this site I want to extend my gratitude to them as my mentors. If it were not for Major Price’s professionalism and attention to the well being of the men under his command, I would not be here today nor would I enjoy the benefits I now receive from the VA
    As ADSA, I went on quite a few operations with the RF company in Khiem Hanh. My counter-part on these operations was a young Sino-Viet named Lang Van Hoa from Saigon. Years later while working/volunteering with ICMC at PRPC, Morong Bataan I found that he was still alive living in a card board box outside his family’s home in Saigon off TuDo Street. I gave my address one of my former ARVN students who forwarded it to Hoa.Thus I was able to contact him and begin a correspondence Then with great assistance from the Orderly Departure Program, specifically Miss Anne Convery I was able to sponsor Hoa out Vietnam. He stayed in my home for about a year and found his ‘Iron Rice Bowl’ with a civil service job—-22 years later he is still hard at work.
    Thank You for this site, as it allows me to express certain gratitudes!
    Mike Conway

      • Bill,
        Donald Price was a West Point graduate and one of better ones. I beleive he was badly injured in May/June 1970 during our foray into Cambodia after COSVN as where most of the Khiem Hanh Team
        I was offered an early out some months before the intrusion and initially declined the early Deros and elected to stay with the Team until May1970. One afternoon I was walking into our TOC when I suddenly decided to take the early out offer–no thinking just a decision. I talked with Thieu Ta Price immediately and he told me in no uncertain terms to listen to my intuition. I rotated home shortly and for quite a few years had mixed feelings about my decision until I learned from our former Phoenix adviser what happened after I left.
        Don Price was a very very good ,compassionate, and competent human being and it because of those qualities I am alive today.

  27. Van Tran, one of the Vietnamese Army interpreters assigned to Hieu Thien District, Tay Ninh, died in California in June, 2014. He was 70 years old and is survived by his wife and 11 children. He often accompanied me on on operations while I was there (1970 – 72) and continued his service with the ARVN until the fall of Saigon. He ultimately spent several yers in “reeducation” camps. He contacted me in 1988 when I was the Director of the Orderly Departure Program from Vietnam, and I was able to facilitate his (and his family’s) resettlement in the US. Curiously, one of his sons in now back in Vietnam — as a Catholic priest! RIP

  28. If only I had read Mr. Beardsley’s message before I wrote my own, I was so excited that Mr. Marshall had somewhat mentioned my Dad. If anyone knew my Dad, who was stationed in Tay Ninh from about Oct. 1968 to Dec. 1968, please let me know. I would love to hear anything about my Dad.

    Thank you,
    Sandy O’Dea, daughter of LTC Thomas O’Dea, US Army

  29. I was assigned to MACV Team 90 as an E4/E5 from early 1969 until July 1970. At that point headquarters was the Gilbert E. Wallace Compound in Tay Ninh. Before that I was assigned to the 2/16th Infantry Battalion, 1st Infantry Division, Lai Khe, Vietnam, worked in the Iron Triangle and Trapezoid areas

    • Stan….. I was at the Gilbert E Wallace compound with you in 69 and 70. In July 70 Ray Varrassi and I stopped and visited you in Anaheim during a cross country trip. Hope all is well with you after all these years.

    • hello stan my name is dan chavez from panaca Nevada I was on team 90 in tay ninh provience a place called mo cong give me a call my captain was John smith 1969 I left Vietnam on 6-27-69

  30. I was with Team 90 from Oct 64-Apr 65 we were lacated N.East of Go Da Ha about 6 Klicks.
    The unit was the 3 Bn 9th Reg 5th Arvn Div. The encampment was about 100 Meter by 100 meters Trigangle outpost.It was built in 63 by a SF team out of Tay Ninh TDY from Okinawa along with the compound at Trang-Bang. Ben Cat was Due East about 30 Klicks.The area was controled by VC Ed Warneld US Army Retired

  31. I was assigned to MACV Team 90 as a 2LT/1LT from early 1971 until June 1971. At that point headquarters was the Gilbert E. Wallace Compound in Tay Ninh. It was the first time I ever had an actual bed with a mattress while I was in Vietnam, although I did not stay there all the time. Met some interesting people who lived in the villa next door.

  32. Going through my father’s service records, it shows on his timeline of duty that he served with the AdvTm90, III CorpsAdvGp USMACV from Aug 4 1968 until he was wounded in action on November 10, 1968. My father (then: SSG Robert Lamson) passed away Aug 1st and I am putting together a timeline for the family of his military service. If anyone could help (and I know this is probably a shot in the dark), please hit me up at

    He was awarded a Bronze Star for his actions on 10 November and would like to know what the details are surrounding the awards that he received. Thanks!

    Semper Fidelis,
    SSgt Tony L Lamson USMC(ret)
    Son of SFC Robert L Lamson USA(ret)

  33. As a CORDS civilian on loan from the Foreign Service, I lived with the Phu Khuong District MAT from 9/68 to 3/70. The team was located on the Phu Khuong District Compound south of the Cao Dai Holy See near Long Hoa Market, and it included the provincial capital, though the village comprising the capital, Tay Ninh City, was worked mostly by the provincial team consisting of about 140 military and 10 civilians. The district MAT team commander was Maj. Charles B. Gray, later followed by Maj Ricketson. The District Chief was Maj Nguyen Van Mach. Up at province, the PSA was (FSO) Hugh G. Appling, and his deputy was a Colonel (whose name I have forgotten, but he died in a helicopter crash on Christmas day (either 1968 or 1969 – that, too, I have forgotten – most probably 1969). There were two Province Chiefs during my time there, the latter being Col Thien. Perhaps I might be able to dredge up more memories if my mind is jogged.

    • Sad to say, I recently received an e-mail informing me that Gene Marshall died this past summer — I think at the end of August, 2013. I followed him as a junior Foreign Service Officer to Tay Ninh (where I was from the summer of 1970 to early 1972), and again in Kabul, Afghanistan, where I replaced him as the U.S. consul.

      Also, LTC Mach, the Phu Khuong District chief mentioned by Gene, died in California earlier this year.

      Bruce A. Beardsley

    • This message is for Gene B. Marshall. The LTC you spoke of was my Dad, Tom O’Dea, who died on Christmas Day, 1968. Mr. Appling was also in the helicopter when it went down. If there is anything you may remember about my Dad, please let me know. I was eight years old when he was killed.

      Thank you,
      Sandy O’Dea, daughter of LTC Thomas O’Dea, US Army

      • Sandy, I’m Hugh Appling’s youngest daughter, Jane, also 8 years old that Christmas Day. I knew my dad lost colleagues and friends in the crash, Vietnamese and American, to his great sorrow. Dad was injured, but we were fortunate to have him with us until he passed away in 2006, at 84. My father always spoke so highly of those he worked with in Tay Ninh – I’m sorry about your dad.

        • Jane, I am sorry that I haven’t checked this website in quite some time. Thank you so much for your response. Your Dad wrote my Mom a lovely letter explaining the crash and answering all you many questions regarding that Christmas day. Sorry to hear about your Dad’s passing but happy for you and your family that you had precious moments with him. Ironically I work for the Vietnam War 50th Commemoration and I speak with Vietnam Veterans everyday, but unfortunately I’ve never come across someone who served with my Dad. Thank you again for your response and all the best for the New Year.

        • Your father was an elegant man. Didn’t get caught up in the military silliness part of MACV. Wish I could have been like Hugh Appling.

          After I left the Army, he wrote a kind note on my behalf for my graduate school.

          I have pictures of your father that you may not have seen. Please ask if you wish to see them.

          Mark Blass

          • Mark, did you happen to know my Dad, LTC Tom O’Dea? He was killed in the helicopter that went down with Mr. Appling.

            • Sandy, I didn’t know LTC O’Dea. I didn’t arrive until June 1969 and never heard about that helicopter accident until reading this thread.

              I’m sorry about your father’s loss. I guess it never goes away

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