Team 4 Quang Tri

MACV Team 4 – Quang Tri

This Page is intended for the discussion of the Military Assistance Command Vietnam Team 4 located in Quang Tri.

113 thoughts on “Team 4 Quang Tri

  1. My name is Ryan Church I’m trying to find out I information on my grandfather that was killed at quang tri on January 31 1968 SFC John church , he was a macv advisor and a green beret any information would be help thanks .

    • Hello Ryan.

      I wrote to you some time ago about Sgt. Church but did not receive a reply.

      Sgt. Church was an advisor to the 9th ARVN (“Army of the Republic of Vietnam”) Airborne Battalion, which was moved to Quang Tri City in late January 1968 to beef up the town’s defenses in anticipation of the attack during the Tet celebrations that year. Sgt. Church was with one of the battalion’s companies which was bivouacked just northeast of the Quang Tri Citadel in a small village named Tri Buu on the evening of January 30th.

      At about 0400 on January 3st, the NVA 814th Independent Battalion, which was one of the units designated for the assault on Quang Tri City, was moving into its assigned jump off position in Tri Buu when it stumbled into the Airborne company. This resulted in an intense firefight involving hand-to-hand combat that went on for about 20 minutes or longer. Sgt. Church and most of the Airborne company fell fighting, with only a few survivors, most of them wounded, managing to retreat into the City.

      Sgt. Church and the Airborne troops who sacrificed themselves that night broke up the NVA battalion’s advance and probably saved a good many lives in doing so. He was well-regarded by the Vietnamese Airborne troopers, and especially by his senior advisor, then Captain Dick Blair. Your grandfather’s his last stand was a heroic one.

      I have some papers and documents that I can send you if you will get in touch with me directly at the email address below. I may also be able to put you in touch with Dick Blair who can tell you a lot more about your grandfather.

      Regards,

      David Sciacchitano (david.sciacchitano@gmail.com)

      • Thank you for the information , I will be emailing you shortly I’ve been out of town for work . I’m so interested in what he did over there .

  2. I was on Team 4 (I think) from Feb 68 to Oct. 68. The team members were Cpt. Jaconi? Nick Myrsch (sp?) I. T. Moore, and Henry Sanford (Sandy). The latter 3 were Green Berets. We drove through Hue after it had been liberated after the Tet Offensive. The Marines who liberated it were incredibly brave. Then on to Quang Tri City and the MACV compound. We did several patrols with a RF/PF company encountering light action. We then moved to Cam Lo. Relocated Montagnards needed water and a reservoir was planned. While installing a pipeline from the Song Cam Lo to a reservoir Henry Sanford was killed (June 12, 68) by a grenade booby trap attached to a sign. An Australian WO was wounded. Among other wounds his eyes were bleeding. A young marine had some non-life-threatening wounds to his leg. An older Vietnamese man seemed to be unhurt but died soon after. I could not stop Sandy’s bleeding. The femoral artery had been cut and it was deep in the groin area. He was a nice kid and deserved a long life. He died doing humanitarian work.
    Soon after we move to an old french fort in Hung Hoa district. It was a triangular structure surrounded by a deep ditch with long sharpened bamboo stakes embedded throughout. We stayed there with the RF/PF company. Rt. 9 was relatively safe as was Huang Hua thanks to the bravery and combat skills of many units.

      • Sorry to hear that. His time in service was not easy. I don’t know if that was a factor. Your news saddens me. (I think he was from California?)

        My wife found a book with a history timeline about Quang Tri and that jogged a lot of memories which is why I wrote these many years after.

        • Hi Bill. I was trying to locate Jaconi for a good friend he served with, Bill Coviello (advisor assigned at Mai Linh District). I found an address and phone number for him, and reached his wife, who told me the sad story. His time at Quang Tri was a major factor in what happened, or perhaps I should say it was the major factor. His wife said he wrestled with his demons for years, but finally gave up the fight. It was nevertheless a shock to her when it happened, as you would expect. I have a good photo of him that Bill Coviello gave to me that I can send to you if you like.

    • Hello, Bill,

      Henry “Sandy” Sanford was my cousin. I knew he was killed in Vietnam, but never knew the details. A search led me to this site, and yours was the very first post I read. Thank you so much for the information. It is comforting to know that he was doing humanitarian work when he died. I really appreciate you sharing these memories.

      All best,

      Estella Clifford

      • Hello Estella
        Sandy was a great kid. He had an old beat up guitar and was always singing. “Green grow the lilacs” was one of his favorites. He was both cheerful and highly professional. I remember every detail of that tragedy. I can see who was there, where they were standing, what the area looked like. I will never forget any of it.
        If you want to look it up , we were a mile or two west of Cam Lo between route 9 and the Cam Lo river (Song Cam Lo). Also, the Ken Burns Viet Nam series (which is difficult to watch) covers the time period and the Quang Tri to Khe San area. I think it’s on episode 6.

        All the best

        Bill Hastings

        • Hi, Bill,

          Thank you for those additional glimpses into Sandy’s life there. I am seven years younger than he; I’m 64 now, and I would have been 14 when he was killed. I was born and raised in and near Philadelphia, PA. His paternal grandmother was my Great-aunt Irene, and she was my maternal grandmother’s sister. Great-aunt Irene and her family moved to Michigan before I was born, and I think Sandy’s parents subsequently moved to Texas. I knew of them, but only met my great-aunt and uncle once. In the 1980’s, I did see my great uncle again and met Sandy’s father, Henry Sr., at that time.

          I’ve thought about Sandy, and wondered what the circumstances of his death were. I thought he might have been killed in the Tet Offensive. A friend who is an Army vet (from the Noriega clean-up era in Panama) told me that Advance Team 4 meant he was probably Special Forces, and you mentioned he was a Green Beret, confirming that.

          I appreciate you going back to that time in your mind, and filling me in. I can only imagine how deeply etched those memories of that tragic day must be, and how painful to recall. My dad and five uncles were in WWII, in all branches of the service except the Coast Guard, and none of them shared much. I’ve only found out things afterward (kind of like this), by doing some research, and finding the occasional old letter my Dad saved. I visited my oldest uncle a few times when I was in my 20’s and he was about 80, and he was still suffering the effects of PTSD, with nightmares, and waking himself up wresting with a bureau, which had been a Nazi in his nightmare.

          I will definitely check out the location, and the Ken Burns episode. I remember seeing a lot of reporting of the war on the evening news, but a lot of it is jumbled up in my memory.

          Anyway, thank you for writing back, and for the details. It makes me feel like I know him, a little. Thank you also for your service, and for protecting those of us back home.

          Take care, and be well.

          All best,

          Estella

  3. Looking for any information on my grandfather, James Robbins, i believe he was in MACV team 4, i know that he spent a lot of time in Hue city. if anyone here knows anything please email me. Would be much appreciated, thanks.

    • Mr. Haley,

      If your grandfather spent a lot of time in Hue, he may have been assigned to Team 3 rather than Team 4, or to both teams at different times. So you should post your query on the Team 3 page, too.

      If you can provide more information on your grandfather it might stir some memories: branch of service, rank while in Vietnam, military specialty, years assigned to Vietnam, etc.

      Finally, you might want to request a complete copy of your grandfather’s military records from the National Archives. You can find all necessary information on how to do that here: archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records

      Regards,

      David Sciacchitano

  4. Robert
    Thanks for the Information on 1lt Elvis Barker. He (Ellie) and I went to Officer basic, airborne and Ranger together and we both served in the same company in the 1 st armored before we both deployed Vietnam in late 64, after training at Bragg. We went to opposite Ends of the country I was down the Camau peninsula he was up in the far north . He and I were both in Saigon for a conference before Christmas in 1964. Early in 65, January or February I saw the notice in Stars & Stripes where he was killed by a Grenade. He was a smart nuclear engineer and his widow in WA remarried, he had a son.

    Regards

    Al short

  5. My name is Dale Avery. I was a Hospital Corpsman assigned to MILPHAP N-1 in Quan Tri city from Oct. 68 to Oct 69. We were based at at the MACV base there and worked primarily at the Vietnamese hospital in city. I would like to hear from anyone on the team or who were stationed at that MACV base. Please contact me at dale.avery@comcast.net

    Thanks in advance.

    Dale Avery
    HM2

    • I left the country as you arrived . I remember that hospital from the short time I was at the MACV base. There were a lot of badly injured people there. The Docs were great. I hoe you’re OK

      Bil

  6. To: LTC AL Short you inquired about 1LT Elvis Barker. I can tell you about him and what happened.I knew Cpt Hogan ,SSG Denny and SSG Kelly they were all on the tean at Can LO. I don;t remember the date that it happened but I clearly remember That day. Cpt Hogan drove into Quang Tri with 1Lt Barker he was deceased. For some reason alot of people in Quang Tri were putting #Three gernades in their canteen cover .I don;t know how this started.CPT Hogan said that they were getting ready to go to the MACV compond in Quang Tri City. that Lt Barker got into the jeep back seat No one else had gotten into the jeep. They were still getting ready to go. Then there was and explosion. . One of the gernades went off killing Lt Barker. It was highly suspected that this was a act of terror . Cpt Hogan said that the Vietnamese at Cam Lo had Some civilian workers working in the Cam Lo District HQ where they stayed. The day before of this incident. That possible some may have been VC or people who sided with the VC. They had a investigation but nothing came of that to the best of my knowledge.. That was a very sad day for everyone in Quang Tri at this time Since there were only maybe 40 people station in all of Quang Tri Providence..Lt was a highly respected officer well liked by every one.. Cam Lo was a very dangerous place to be station at. Just to drive out there everytime you made it there you could count that as a success.Well you were there at this time. You know how it was. In Quang Tri we were at the end of the line when it comes to any kind of support.. There were no airsupport no helicopters in all of Quang Tri providence at this time .Thats why Cpt Hogan Had to drive Lt Barker to Quang Tri in a jeep.No Hospital either . Just a few medics to give first aid.Well LTC Short I hope this can answer some of your questions about Lt Barker..He was the first American solder that I knew that was killed in Vietnam.After three tour in Vietnam all of them in the infantry I would know and see many more die. Many that I don;t even remember their names.So Long Robert

  7. I was on a MILPHAP team 7/69 -7/70 on team 4. Anyone know where Houng Hoa (sp) was. It was near the Z west of the strip I think. Like to find it on a map.c

      • Val: I was on Navy MILPHAP Team N-6 in Rach Gia, Kien Giang province in 1970. Have lots of photos. Might have known some of your VN interpreters, one of which lives near Boston, MA
        R.G. Ryder, LCDR, USN, Retired

    • Hi Chris,
      Huong Hoa is the name of the district in Quang Tri Province where Khe Sanh Combat Base was located. The old South Vietnamese district headquarters was in Khe Sanh village, which is southwest of the base along Highway 9. After the town was overrun in January 1967, GVN operations moved east into eastern part of the district. I don’t know what changes the Communists might have made to district boundaries, district names, or district government headquarters. If you google either Huong Hoa or Khe Sanh on google maps, it should give you a satellite view of the area.

  8. After 50 years I just found a corner of an envelope my parents saved. It was my brother Daniel J. Heibel Cpl USMC address before he was KIA Aug. 12, 1967. The address was
    D J Heibel
    Box 120
    Advisory Team #4 MACV
    APO San Francisco
    96269
    He was involved with the CIA Phoenix Program as a 3541 Rado Operater, using a PRC 25. Him and another Marine LCPL Hansen were in a CIA compound with PRU’s 2 miles from Quang Tri when they came under attack at 0230 Aug. 12, 1967. Shot in the head and neck, sent back in a closed coffin.

    • Hey Fred, how are you doing? Still practicing medicine? I retired in ’96 after 31 years with the feds as a geologist. Would like to get in contact with you again.

      Dale

  9. Searching for a fellow Army Vet that served with me in MACV Team 4 around 1970 named Tom Howes. Any info would be greatly appreciated. (Ret)Major Glenn L Taylor

  10. Hi Everyone, I am trying to get in touch with William N Johnson and a Mr Rogers who were both Captains working with 1st ARVN during 1967-68. They had worked with my grandfather – AATTV advisor WO2 Clarrie Crapper. If anyone knows them could you please pass their details onto me.

    Kind Regards,

    Tyson

  11. I’m looking for S.Simon (on his uniform was “S Simon”) , Simon’s father is French and morther is American , Sgt. Simon of the U.S Army detached to MACV Command in Vietnam, He came in Phu Bai, Hue, Vn from 1964 to 1966, Aviation reconnaissance aircraft, Div 1, ARVN Division Station at Hue Citadel, Vietnam. If you hear anything from Simon, or know his current whereabouts, please contact me. vananh.bilynsky@yahoo.com

  12. Gentlemen:

    RFI: Seeking to locate a senior advisor (possibly an O5) in I Corps in the ’71/’72 time frame by the name of “Granham.” He may have been with MI during a previous tour in Vietnam. Any assistance will be appreciated. Many thanks. Jack

  13. Another note re Quang Tri. I was in from Lang Vei via Khe Sanh to Quang Tri.to pick up mail, rations on 24 Dec 65. Marth Raye was there with two sidemen, looking for a ride to Khe Sanh. She was not allowed to travel there. She was hoping to visit the SF team there. So we had Christmas dinner at the team house with her and they entertained us. Back to Lang Vei the following day.

    • Robert

      Seeking info re 1 LT Elvis Barker, SIGC, who was the PSYOP/CA Advisor in Quang Tri 64 /65 and KIA in early 65. He and I were commissioned in 62, Ranger School mates and in the 1st Armored together. We both deployed as PSYOP/CA advisors in Sept 64, he to Quang Tri and I to Choung Thien in the Delta. We were last together at a meeting in Saigon in Dec 64 and the only report I saw was in Stars & Stripes that he died in a grenade explosion. Can you provide any details???

      Al Short, Col, USA (RET)

  14. My name is Bob Weaver. I was a Sgt RTO (CW), assigned to Tm 3,, 1st Arvn div at Hue in April 1965. I was later assigned to Tm 4 to a 4 man team with 1st Bn 2nd Regt at Dong Ha. Bn commander was Cpt Chac. We rotated to Lang Vei for what turned out to be a 7 month tour. Cpt Edmund Dowling, USMC, WO Tom Dolan, RAR, and one other Army NCO ( don’t recall his name). We were a few milesWest of Khe Sanh. Operated along Highway 9. Protection for montegards (Bru tribe). Had one 105mm for support of operations. Returned to Dong Ha and operated along the coast.
    Cpt Dowling later went to Danang with Gen Walt. (He retired as LTC). WO Dolan went to Danang, Aussie R&R center. (RAR reported him deceased in 1972, cause unknown)

  15. CSM Army retired Robert L Williams went to Quang Tri in Oct 1964. We were changeing from MAAG Vietnam to MACV at that time. Quang Tri was very small. There were only about 40 army NCOs and Officers. In Quang Tri. About six Marine NCOs and a few Australian WO. There were no Helicopers or aircraft in Quang Tri providence. In November 64 I went to Hai Lang And we setup the first advisor team for Hai Lang District. Headquaters. The commander for Quang Tri Providence was Maj Gildart. He was the higest ranking Officer in Quang Tri providence. Mr To was the providence chief of Quang Tri. He was a civilian because of the DMZ between North and South Vietnam.. At This time the other districts started setting up Trie Phong , Cam Lo and Jo Lin.The MACV compond was guarded by soldiers from the ARVN 1st Inf Div. They had a small Mess hall with Vietnamese cooks and a few girls who cleaned the tables. There were only about 20 soldiers who stayed in the compound full time the others were in and out with their units . Advisors to the ARVN 1st inf Div. I went back to Vietnam six years ago and visited Quang Tri. Of course the old MACV compond was gone no buildings were there . They were useing to sort of run a laundry now. No Building just the street were still ther and they have running water to wash clothes.. The wall from the cidital is gone . The school beside the compound is still there but it was pretty much bombed out and burned up. Well later on everything changed and you know the story. SMILE I have been back to Vietnam many times .I use to go to Beijing Chania often and then take the train from Beijing to Dong Dang Vietnam ;Then on to Hanoi ,Hue and Sagion. Of course takes about a month to stop and visit every where.Any way if you want to travel there you will enjoy your tour. The people are good to you . Suspriseling they really treat you very good in Hanoi . NOT TO EXPENSIVE. So to all who servedYou Did you job excellent. Iwish you a good life. You earned that. So Long Robert

      • To robertadunfee From CSM Robert L Wiliams The new goverment has tried to erase every thing that we buildt in Vietnam that they could. So I remember when I went to Khe Sanh I had to sort of look around from where I was standing to get a idea as to where I was standing. Khe Sanh is now a coffee plantation Just to give you a idea as to how every thing has changed . Coffee tree every where. After about 30 min it came to me . Where I was standing was close to the command bunker in 1964. Sop if you go there don;t really to see much of a trace of the old US military buildings. In Quang Tri there is no trace of the US Military . So Long Robert

  16. Was assigned as advisor to Trieu Phong Sub-Sector with an American medic, and Aussie Maj. and Warrant officer from 1966-67.Ran operations with RF/PF, very exciting for a young 1st Lt.

    • My brother Cpl Daniel Heibel USMC was in a CIA/PRU compound outside of Quang Tri, KIA Aug. 12 1967 after being overrun at 0230

    • Greetings Jim,

      Just checking to see if it was Major Peter Badcoe ( the Aussie Major ) who was later killed in April of 1967 whom you served with ? Regards Laurie Sams

      • Hello Laurie, I was with the team in 68. I was working with an Australian WO In Cam Lo Building a reservoir when he was badly injured by a booby trap on June12. One of my men was killed by the same. Don’t know if it was related. I don’t remember specifically that I was on team 4. I’m assuming that’s the case. I think we were the only team in the area. I was on the team in Quang Tri then Cam Lo and then to the west in Hung Hoa. Back to the States in Oct.

        Hope you are well

        Bill

        • Hi Bill,
          Not related to that incident in 1968 due to the fact that Major Peter Badcoe was killed in Thua Thien 7th April 1967. He was awarded the Silver Star with Oak Leaf for a previous action and later awarded Australia’s highest medal for Valor the Victoria Cross ( phoshumous ) Regards Laurie Sams

  17. I posted a reply in the Team 155 site before seeing this one. I am seeking more info and trying to confirm some archival mistakes regarding my father death on Dec.10, 1966. Rather than take up space with a re-post here, if those who were in the Quang Tri area please refer to my other post it would be appreciated.
    Thank you all for your service…

    • Mr. Mixson,

      According to the casualty sheet for your father published on virtualwall.org, he was assigned to Advisory Team 3, which was located in Thua Thien Province, the province south of Quang Tri Province, and his place of death was Bind Dinh Province. Advisory Team 27 was the Binh Dinh team, and Advisory Team 22 was located in Kontum, but it happened on occasion in 1965 and 1966 that units of the 1st ARVN Division, which normally operated in Quang Tri and Thua Thien Provinces, were involved in operations further south (though Binh Dinh would have been quite a distance away from the division’s AOR). So your father being with Team 3, would not have precluded him from being on an operation in Binh Dinh Province, and there may have been other reasons he was there.

      I assume you have gotten a complete copy of his personnel and medical records from the National Archives. You will want to have these anyway, but it is always possible you will find something in them that will serve as guidance for further research. You might also, though, find someone who can do a search of the MACV advisory team after action reports at the National Archives satellite location in Adelphi, Maryland. Since you are not entirely certain at this point to which team he belonged, you might want to get copies of all after action reports covering the general time period of his death that were submitted by any of the advisory team possibilities you can identify who might have worked in Binh Dinh during the general timeframe. Note that the after action reports are filed by date of submission, rather than the date of the action, and a relevant report might have been submitted months afterward, though in general they were submitted not long after the actions took place.

      It might also be possible to identify some of the officers involved – and some may still be alive and have enough of a recollection of the incident to help you in your research. For instance, it appears that the only regular Army officer named Turner with the initials “J.J.” assigned to Team 3 was James Justice Turner. Turner, who retired as a Lt. Col., was an advisor in 1966 and 1967 to the 3rd ARVN Regiment of the 1st ARVN Division, which was headquartered in Hue, Thua Thien Province. That is, he would have been a member of Advisory Team 3, the same team of which your father appears to have been a member (from his casualty report). I was not able to find any Marine or Army lt. colonels or colonels from that time surnamed “Smith” with the initials “W.P.”, but your mother may have mis-remembered the precise initials.

      This is the casualty report to which I am referring:

      Joseph Gary Mixson
      ON THE WALL: Panel 13E Line 28

      PERSONAL DATA:
      Home of Record: Buna, TX
      Date of birth: 03/17/1934
      MILITARY DATA:
      Service Branch: United States Marine Corps
      Grade at loss: O3
      Rank: Posthumous Promotion as indicated
      Promotion Note: None
      ID No: 074030
      MOS or Specialty: 0392: Unknown Infantry MOS Code
      Length Service: 08
      Unit: ADV TEAM 3, USMC ADV UNIT, NAVAL ADV GROUP, USNAVFORV
      CASUALTY DATA:
      Start Tour: Not Recorded
      Incident Date: 12/10/1966
      Casualty Date: 12/10/1966
      Age at Loss: 32
      Location: Binh Dinh Province, South Vietnam
      Remains: Body recovered
      Casualty Type: Hostile, died outright
      Casualty Reason: Ground casualty
      Casualty Detail: Artillery, rocket, or mortar
      Status Date: Not Applicable; was not MIA
      Status Change: Not Applicable; was not MIA
      Repatriated: Not Applicable; was not MIA
      Identified: Not Applicable; was not MIA

      Good luck with your efforts.

      David Sciacchitano

      • Mr Sciacchitano,
        I am getting better and location information but you have provided some areas I did not know about. It is possible I need to post on the Team 3 Thua Thien Hue as well. My mother is going back through some letters to get a refresher on names, places and time frames.
        Many thanks for your help,
        Mark Mixson.

    • As a young 2LT, I was on Team 4 with CPT Fred Green. If my memory is correct, he was promoted to major MAJ while he was on the team. He had previously served in Korea.

      • Hi, Bill! I was there when you were, and have a photo of you walking thru the mud at DongHa.
        I was with JTAD, and named Joe Bull. Fred and I happened to share R&R in same hotel in Hawaii. Let me know if you find him! You replaced (as I recall ) another Lt who was wounded in mortar attack, and they gave him penicillin even tho he was alergic joe.Brennan @comcast.net

        • Well hello, Joe! I absolutely do remember “Joe Bull” back in the day. I knew that you guys used aliases and always wondered what your real name might be. My first Vietnam deployment ran from October 66 through December 67, and I was at I Corps in Da Nang for the first couple of months before joining Team 4. CPT Jim Merritt was my boss until his tour was over (he died a few years ago). My ARVN counterpart was LT Rang, and we ran a recon unit. I returned to RVN in 1969 (101st Abn Div), and met Rang again…he was a CPT by then, and so was I. Small world! wbheilmann@gmail.com.

  18. Does anyone remember LT and then CPT Bruce Clarke who was in Khe Sanh? Looking for your recollections of me.

    • I have positive memories of you when assigned to AdvisoryTeam 4. The memory I remember the best is how confident you were after enduring 77 days under dangerous conditions at KSCB during Tet of 1968. We talked briefly at Sector Hqs shortly after the siege was broken.

  19. Sgt. Al Turner served with Capt. Brown Sr. Advisor 2nd Regt. ARVN Team 4 Dong Ha June 1965 to July 1966. Col Storm was SR. Advisor, Quang Tri Sector at that time.

    • Mr. Turner,

      Did you know an Australian warrant officer named Kevin Wheatley while you were with Team 4? He was with the team through late 1965, though assigned to another regiment and battalion (1/1). Those he served with included USMC Capt. Jim Lowe, and MSgt. Jim Sharp.

  20. My father, Captain Kenneth S. Mink (USA), was a member of Team 4 from March 1966 until February 1967. He was assigned to 4th Battalion, 1st Regiment, 1st Infantry Division, ARVN According to the inscription on the back of a photo I have, he served with “Sergeant First Class Fritz, ‘Ed,’ Master Sergeant Stanford (USMC).”

    – Eric Mink

    • Mr. Mink, FYI: SFC “Fritz” is probably SFC Orville Bill Frits, who was killed in May, 1967 along with a Marine advisor, Lt. Grammar. They were captured, tortured and then murdered, so not technically KIA. Your father may have known both of them.

      • Good catch, David…pretty sure he did spell it “Frits.” I remember him and 1LT Grammar (USMC) very well. Their deaths were tragic.

    • I have a fleeting memory of CPT Mink…he was left Team 4 not too long after I arrived. I knew SFC Fritz. He and 1LT Mike Grammar (USMC) were captured and killed by the NVA in May 1967.

  21. Hi folks. I just found this blog and would like to share and get some information if you have it. I served with team 4 from March to November 1969 when I was WIA. On this operation our Team Leader, Marine Major May was KIA. Members of our Team were two Australians, A young Army Lt and two Army NCOs. I was a SFC at the time. Don’t have much recollection of names (one of my wounds is on side of my head and affected my memory, the Major and I received a direct hit in our foxhole.) but do have a few pictures I can share. We worked with an ARVN unit ( Ben Hai patch) whos Commander was Captain Ho. The AO was mostly along the DMZ. Remember spending lots of times at Qua Viet, Cam Lo, Gio Lin and The Rock Pile. My personal email is manuel.landivar@gmail.com I appreciate any information on this team during this period.. I read some recent statistics and learned that over 70 % of those who served in Vietnam are no longer in this world. Would like to connect with another of the few survivors from this Team before I am gone. Thanks, :).

    • Manuel,

      If you can dredge up any other information on the two Australians – partial names, Battalion and Regiment number of the ARVN unit to which your team was assigned (you must have been with the 2nd Regiment), I can probably determine if they are still alive.

    • Hi Manuel, my Great-grandpa Lowell Landre was in Macv teams 3 and 4, 66-67. 1st infantry. He was the best man I’ve ever known. Did you know him?

    • My Dad the Senior Province Advisor from late 1968 – 1970…

      I have his photo collection (many photos of the Citadel and surrounding areas) will post if people are interested

  22. I don’t know how to post photos, but I would love to see it. My email is david.sciacchitano@gmail.com

    The 1st Lt. could have been Mike Montgomery, but he was a Marine. I forget the name of the gunny who worked with him, but he was a big tall friendly guy, sandy-haired and very husky. There was another I am thinking of who was shorter and had one of those Old Corps gunny guts – also a friendly guy and one who, as the Australians say, “loved his beer”. He always carried an AK-47 around. The CIA had villas along the river, and the Navy Lt. and gunny may have lived there. There were military personnel working along with the CIA guys. But there was also Riverview compound itself. Most personnel at Riverview were Australians, but there were some Marine officers and enlisted guys who stayed there. Were you with the JTAD yourself?

  23. Their house was down the street from the Provincial Headquarters, across from the river. Navy Lt (Mike something or other) stayed pretty much to himself, assumed he worked with Bob Brewer. Do you know how to add photos to the website?

  24. I remember Jack Moore well as a very hard charging, competent and capable platoon commander. Too bad we didn’t know we were so close in I Corps. Interesting times.

  25. Walt Esser was my company commander when I reported to Second Bn Second Regt Fox Company at Camp Lejeune in 1966.

    • Great. I will forward this to him. I am sure he would like to hear from you. He is now living in North Carolina, and has written a couple of books on running, something he does as a dedicated hobby these days – super long distance runs, as befits a guy who is still USMC all the way through. My email address is david.sciacchitano@gmail.com If you send me a note, I will email Walt’s email address to you.

  26. No sir, I was with Auustralian W/O Vercoe and US Ranger Capt. Culpepper. I was only there for about six weeks and then returned back to my unit 2bn 1st Marines at Phu Bai

  27. Skip,
    I was only w/3rd Bn, 3rd Regt., for a short time—maybe 6 wks. I was then transferred to 1st Bn., 2nd ARVN Regt. in Dong Ha. The only faces that I recognize in those pictures are yours and Roger Knapper.
    I do appreciate getting those pictures, however!
    Stay in touch.
    Semper Fi,
    Bob

    • Col. Tschan, speaking of photos, I have some photos of advisors who were with Team 4 when you were there. I would like to send them to you to see if you recognize anyone. Also, do you remember Walt Esser? He was a USMC artillery advisor on the team in ’67 and ’68.

      • I recognize the name–Walt Esser, but I can’t say that I remember him. We must have crossed paths somewhere along the line–since we must have just missed each other @ both “Fox” Co., 2nd Bn., 2nd Marines or @ GITMO. My first duty station assignment out of TBS was plt. cmdr., 1st Plt., 2nd Bn., 2nd Marines. Arrived there 7 Jan. ’65, departed 16 Dec. ’65.
        I should have met up w/both Walt Esser and Skip Moore in GITMO, since I was C.O. of one of the two Marine Guard Co.s @ the Marine Barracks, GITMO from Dec. ’65–Dec. ’66. I have gleaned from other conversations that both Walt and Skip were part of the FMF augmentation to the Marine Barracks sometime during ’66.
        I was the Regt’l Staff advisor w/Team 4, 1st ARVN Regt., @ Quang Tri, June ’68-Sept. ’68–so should have met him there also.

        Semper Fi,
        Bob Tschan

      • David S,–your last name is even worse than mine. Yes I would like to see the photos that you have.
        You can send them via this site/ to my e-mail (bobtschan@gmail.com), or by snail mail to: Robert Tschan
        739 Rocky Trail Rd,
        Henderson, NV 89014
        Thanks &
        Semper Fi,
        Bob

    • I forgot to mention that I have a roster from August, 1968, just after Harley Mooney took over as Senior Advisor from Marlin Thrasher. I don’t see your name on it, but it does list Capt. Donald Moore as Asst. Senior Advisor for Gio Linh, but it lists his duty station as Dong Ha. The Gio Linh Senior Advisor is Maj. Charles Slaby, but his duty station is listed as Gio Linh. I see you posted your email address, so I will go ahead and send you the photos and the roster.

    • Hello,

      Did you get the photos I emailed to you?

      I gave Walt Esser your name and email address in case he remembered you. He said he was going to post a note to Mr. Moore, and I mentioned to him you had some postings he might want to look at, to see if they jogged his memory. You two certainly should have crossed paths at some point. Walt was an artillery advisor with Team 4, and he was there when I arrived in May, 1967. So he probably would have left about when I did, I think, in June, 1968. But I am not certain.

      Your name is familiar to me but I very much doubt it was from Quang Tri. I might have seen it in a notebook kept by the Team 4 XO, Maj. Sanderson. It isn’t on my roster from August ’68, but that list seems to include only U.S. Army officers. No Marines or other services are listed except for one Australian, David Millie.

      Let me know if you recognized any of the people in the photos who are not named in the file titles.

      Regards,

      David Sciacchitano

  28. Bill/Skip,

    I wish that the “accidental” discharge had been the “.50 cal”. The Ontos 106’s were pointed down range. They had been used for “H & I’s” all night on Sat. The 106″s needed cleaning, so the crews were doing just that on that Sunday morn.

    The 106 RR can be cleaned while loaded IF the hydraulic bypass valve is turned to the correct position. It wasn’t!!!!!!!!!!!!! When they finished cleaning one of the 106’s, they slammed the breach closed. They, of course, were cleaning the breach from the rear & when they slammed the breach block, the 106 fired. Four of the worst deaths I have ever witnessed anywhere!!

    We cleaned up most of the parts, but not nearly all.

    Semper Fi,
    Bob

    • Bob, I sent an e-mail to you and Bill with some pictures I had taken in the MACV Compound and in the field. You will be surprised to see some of the faces!!!
      Skip

  29. Skip,
    Of course I remember you!! We were together during some very exciting times of my life. I still have a picture of you and I together–not sure exactly when it was taken–or where it is right now.
    Maybe I’m wrong, but I always thought that we were with the 3rd Bn., 3rd ARVN Regt. HQ, 3rd ARVN Regt. was located @ PK-17, I think. During the time I/we were with the 3rd Bn., I think the Regt’l Staff Advisor was Maj. Roger Knapper, USMC.
    Do you remember being w/3rd Bn. when it was located up on that old French fortress? Remember the accidental discharge of the Ontos on a Sunday morn.?

    I had a Marine “buck” Sgt. w/me when we were transferred from the 1st ARVN Div. Recon Co. He was w/me/us up on that old French fortress. I have been trying to think of his name for the last 25 yrs.–no luck. Do you remember him or his name or?

    • bob and skip….just listening in on this conversation
      accidental discharge from an ontos???? i hope it was the .50 cal spotting rifle and not the 106! must have been a memorable sunday morning for all who observed.

      first time i saw an ontos fired was at pendleton when i was going through itr in oct ’58. we were sitting in the bleachers, ontos was out in front pointing down range. instructor told us to watch the dumpster a couple of hundred meters down range. the ontos fired the 50 cal first and i remember being disappointed and thinking “that sure wasn’t very spectacular” didn’t know that was only the preliminaries! then it let loose with 4 or 6 of the 106’s and that WAS SPECTACULAR!

      later i served with 1st recon bn. at camp horno and we were in adjacent barracks to 1st AT Bn. got to ride on/in the ontos a few times during joint field days.

      semper fi…glad you two are a team again

      bill

    • It was a 106 accidental discharge that took a Marine’s head off. He slammed the breech while standing directly behind it. We also had a Marine shoot a finger off with the .50 cal. Lt. Bob (Hoot) Gibson was the Ontos Platood Commander. Yes, it was 3Bn 3rd Regt. Yes, I do remember you, Bob, Roger Knapper, JJ Coolican, and Peter Kelly. There was a Westoint LTCOL Turner there too, I believe. Interesting times. I have been living in The Villages, FL since Oct 2004. Great place to retire. Softball and golf are my life. 😃😃😃
      Stay in touch!
      Skip Moore

  30. To Bob Tschan: Remember me, Jack (Skip) Moore? I was advisor to 3rd Batt, 4th Regt, 1st ARVN Di. From Jan 67 to Jan 68 based out of Hue. Hope to hear from you.

    • Skip,
      I posted my last comment before I had finished & it won’t let me edit after posting.
      I remember seeing you @ HQMC when I was there, but don’t remember exactly when that was.
      Where are you now and what are you doing? Still in the D.C. area?
      Semper Fi,
      Bob
      bobtschan@gmail.com

  31. Does anyone remember Naval team #1 MILPHAP (military provincial hospital assistance program) under Captain Knox Pittard, from 66 to 67? Based in Quang Tri, but traveled extensively in 1, 2, and 3 corps.

    • I have contact information for one of the doctors who served on the MILPHAP team in 1967 who might remember the name, depending on the exact dates of Capt. Pittar’s command. It would not be too difficult to determine if Capt. Pittard is still alive.

      • I remember Dr. Pittard; he took me out to the hospital several times. Seemed to be a very personable and professional member of Team 4.

        • He was very personable. He was in charge of just 16 medical advisors, just one step from Admiral, but he loved his job and related to the community, dedicated himself and us to the care of the civilians, and traveled extensively in Vietnam to aid the populace. I was honored to travel with him and a corpsman named Bell who learned fluent Vietnamese and interacted with the people superbly.

  32. i was there around 1969. also, worked a lot around dong ha area. does anyone remember an army guy named Trintini? how about jose boles. his real name wasn’t jose, but that’s what we called him. major jones was the c.o. then, as well. if anyone remembers these guys, or if you remember me, gimme an email. I was air force then. still miss that medic. I think his last name way styme. that what we called him, anyway. Kilroy compound. I would have never remembered that name.

  33. I was attached out to team IV in 1966. 

    Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Mega™, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

      • Dasher Wheatley was my team mate from February/March 1965 he was killed in action November 1965 and awarded a Victoria Cross. If Rafael was “attached out”” to team IV in 1966 WO Wheatley was already KIA.

        • Mr. Sharp, I tried to locate you a couple of years ago. I see I had the spelling of your last name wrong, which couldn’t have helped. Have you ever been in touch with an Australian named Joe Roach? He is writing a book on Wheatley. You can reach me directly at david.sciacchitano@gmail.com

    • Rafael,

      Vercoe was WO2 Raymond Frederick Vercoe, Royal Australian Engineers. He was an advisor to the 3rd Battalion, 2nd Regiment, while with Team 4, and then went down to an assignment in Vung Tau at the end of January, 1967. He passed away in 2004.

  34. My wife just found this site and the site for Team 3.
    My name is Robert(Bob) E. Tschan. When I arrived in VN on 7 Mar., 1967, I had just been promoted to Capt., USMC. On arrival at the 1st ARVN Div. HQTRS., in Hue, the Sr. Advisor to the Div., was Col. Peter E. Kelly, USA. I was assigned as the Sr. Advisor to the 1st ARVN Div. Recon Co. The HQTRS of the Recon Co. was located inside the Citadel. The Recon Co. was very active and conducted several clandestine ops.
    Sometime in May, several members of the Advisor team assigned to the 3rd Bn., 3rd ARVN Regt., were killed during an attack. The Marine Sgt. who was with me @ the Recon Co., and I were reassigned to that Bn. They were located on a mountaintop north of Hue and west of PK-17, overlooking one of the main NVA infiltration routes. The location was an old French fortress–probably the same place some of you have said was turned into a cement factory! I became the Sr. Advisor to that Bn. The asst. Sr. Advisor was Capt. Jack Moore, USMC.
    In July, or thereabouts, I was transferred to be the Sr. Advisor to the 1st Bn., 2nd ARVN Regt., located in Dong Ha. I replaced Capt. Costantin, USA, who was transferred to a Div. Staff Advisor billet in Hue.
    In late Oct., I was transferred to be the Regt’l. Staff Advisor. In mid-Dec., the Sr. Regt’l. Advisor, Maj. Gerald Peterson, USA, rotated stateside. His replacement had not arrived and even tho’ there were 2-3 Majors on the advisor team, Col. Kelly assigned me as the “acting” Sr. Regt’l. Advisor.
    I was the Sr. Advisor to Lt.Col. Vu Van Giai during “TET”. He wanted to take the 2nd ARVN Regt. from Dong Ha into Hue City—“to save the 1st ARVN Div. HQTRS” (Lt.Gen. Troung). Lt.Col. Giai’s ulterior motive, however, was that his family lived in Hue and he wanted to ensure their safety. Had he done that, that would have left the infiltration corridor from Rte. 1 east to the coast and the city of Dong Ha, (the 2nd ARVN Regt.’s TAOR) totally unprotected.
    The ARVN had no helos available for transport. Lt.Col Giai and I met w/ CG, 3rd MarDiv., headquartered in Dong Ha. Lt.Col. Giai requested that the Marines provide the 2nd ARVN Regt. w/ enough helo support to get them into Hue.
    Fortunately, the CG would only provide nine CH-46’s. With the nine helo’s enroute to Hue City, three were shot down, three were shot up and had to go to a carrier off the coast, and three made it into a “hot LZ” in Hue, near the “Citadel.”
    The relatively small group of ARVN soldiers that did make it into Hue decided to retrograde from the “Citadel” and try to make it back to the Div. Hqtrs. I was w/that group, and Unfortunately, they didn’t tell me that they were leaving!!!!! I spent about 6-8 hrs. in the moat!!!
    The next morning, I made it to an LZ near the Div. Hqtrs., caught a helo back to Dong Ha and reconnected with Lt.Col. Giai. He and I then boarded an ARVN L-19(Piper Cub) and returned to fly around Hue City so Lt. Col. Giai could act as a spotter for the Div. He reported NVA unit locations back to the Div. until we had to return to Dong Ha for fuel and sleep!!
    Later on in Feb., the Sr. Advisor to the ARVN Bn. located @ A-1, Capt. Roger Wellbrook, USMC, received a minor wound. I went to replace him while he recuperated for a couple of days. I had only been on A-1 for a couple of days when we took direct hits to the advisor bunker and the Naval Gunfire Spot team bunker.
    The USArmy Forward Observer Team was in the advisor team bunker–both were killed. Neither SFC Green nor I were wounded.
    I returned to the Sr. Advisor billet in Dong Ha and remained there until relieved by Major Costantin, USA, in May.
    I went on leave in May/June and in July ’68, I was assigned to the 1st ARVN Regt. in Quang Tri, as the Regt.’l Staff advisor.
    I rotated back to the U.S. in early Sept.
    Now that I have written this epistle, I know that I have known some of you–or just missed you, either coming or going.
    Capt. Jim Cooligan, Sr. Advisor to the Hoc Bao, won the Navy Cross for his actions @ the Hue MACV compound during TET.
    At some point, during, I think mid-’68, Capt. Roger Wellbrook, USMC, became the Sr. Advisor to the Hoc Bao.
    I retired in 1992, after the Gulf War.

    • bob,

      did you ever meet up with bill cervenak in hue? he was the company man with the pru unit. loaned him one of my best sgts who was soon kia.

      jack moore is old friend

      what is a good email address for you?

      semper fi

      bill mcbride

      • Bill,
        That name–Bill Cervenak does not sound familiar.
        Jack Moore and I served together a couple of different times. I last saw Jack wandering the halls @ HQMC in mid-late ’80’s. He was a civilian then. I have lost track of him, so if you are in contact w/him, tell him I said, “Hello”, and give him my e-mail.
        I live in Henderson, NV,–just outside of Las Vegas.
        Semper Fi,
        Bob

  35. I was on Team 2 in Quang Ngai, 5-1-67-4-30-68. I had a friend who was in Quang Tri with MACV as an RTO at the same time. His name was Al Simmons. He would have been a PFC and was a really fun guy. If this rings a bell with anyone, could you let me know? Thanks. Ed

    • Was Simmons assigned to the team or attached to an army outfit co-located with it? I am still in touch with a few people who worked in the TOC Quang Trip citadel during that period and they may have known him. But there were also a couple of classified operations based at the compound that had RTO types with them.

  36. Sgt. Church was an advisor to the 9th ARVN Airborne Battalion. He was killed in a hamlet just north of Quang Tri City when his company was overrun by NVA troops in the opening hours of the NVA assault on Quang Tri City. Sgt. Church was assigned to Advisory Team 162 (not Team 4), which was the advisory team attached to the ARVN Airborne Division. If you send me your email address I can put you in touch with Col. Dick Blair, who was also an advisor to the 9th ARVN Airborne Battalion at the same time and who knew your grandfather very well. I can also send you some material on the attack on Quang Tri City, but for personal information Dick Blair is your best bet.

    David Sciacchitano david.sciacchitano@verizon;net

  37. I am trying to get more information on my grandfather that was with macv in quang tri on January 31 1968 during the tet offensive . My grandfather name is john church . Died January 31 1968

    • Sgt. Church was an advisor to the 9th ARVN Airborne Battalion. He was killed in a hamlet just north of Quang Tri City when his company was overrun by NVA troops in the opening hours of the NVA assault on Quang Tri City. Sgt. Church was assigned to Advisory Team 162 (not Team 4), which was the advisory team attached to the ARVN Airborne Division. If you send me your email address I can put you in touch with Col. Dick Blair, who was also an advisor to the 9th ARVN Airborne Battalion at the same time and who knew your grandfather very well. I can also send you some material on the attack on Quang Tri City, but for personal information Dick Blair is your best bet.

      David Sciacchitano david.sciacchitano@verizon;net

  38. Henry John Stuttard, WO2, Australian, AATTV, advisor to 7th ARVN Cavalry, Thua Thien and Quang Tri Provinces, was in Quang Tri May – November 1969. WIA 24/3/69 Quang Tri. Still living in 2005.

    Eric Crawley Burns, WO2, Australian. AATTV advisor to the 7h ARVN Cavalry in Quang Tri 1/69 to 1/70. Deceased 9/6/02

  39. i AM TRY TO.LOCATE MR. BURNS, TWO WO’S THAT WERE WITH ME IN QUANG TRI, MR. BURNS AND MR STUDDARD MIGHT HAVE THE SPELLING WRONG ON HIM.

  40. Please correct the spelling to “Quang Tri”. Teams 3 and 4 were both assigned to support the ARVN 1st Division in addition to RF/PF and other Vietnamese forces and activities.

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