Team 38 Bao Loc

MACV Team 38 – Bao Loc.

This Page is intended for the discussion of the Military Assistance Command Vietnam Team 38 located in Bao Loc.

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  1. I was at Bao Loc quite afew times 67-68. I got drunk several times. I knew Capt. Reed & Capt Nettinger (72) . I flew several times WO Fitzgerald assisting door gunner. I remember the road block and the VC milling amounge the people. I was there when Reed & the CIA went down and helped bring them out. Did the Army aircraft mech. get his M2 out of county? I was the guy that stopped the generator from running away durning lunch one day.

    • Barry, Ed Fitzgerald has a facebook page if you want to link up with him. I was at the Forward Support unit next to the runway. We provided mechanical, food, general supplies, showers and laundry for the 3/503rd at Camp Smith. Our mailing address was through Team 38.

    • Hi Barry, enjoyed reading your comment about our gunship missions. I remember the roadblock well. I have an article about that incident and will send it to you. My email address is, send me an email with your email address and will send a copy to you. Hope you are doing well, hard to believe it has been over 50 years ago. Take care, Al Fitzgerald

    • Hello Barry. Glad you made it back in one piece. I was an aircraft mechanic on the Air Force “Bird Dogs”. I bunked with Charlie Johnson in the summer of ’68 just as he was rotating stateside. I think I have a picture of him. Post an eMail address and I’ll see if I can find it and send it to you. I’m in Arizona, 73, and in relatively good shape. Viet Nam is always fresh on the mind, even after all the years.

  2. I was an Air Force radio operator at Bao Loc team 38. Early 1970 till Dec that same year. Major Robert Bock was the Air Force Liason Officer. I have many pictures of people, places and things. If interested email……..put Bao Loc as subject….so it won’t get erased.

  3. I just found this site! I was with Team #38 from mid 1970 to mid 1971. I was a civilian with CORDS, and sent to Bao Loc to help with the resettlement of 10,000 Vietnamese fleeing Cambodia. As such, I drove to Di Linh only twice, and stayed overnight only once during my entire time in province. If you or anyone you know was there at that time, I’d love to hear from you. I have a number of photos, but only a few of Team personnel, unfortunately. Please contact me at:

  4. I was an Rto in A 3 503 173rd Abn June 68 to July 69 and our base camp was Bao Loc.
    My son and I will be in Saigon, Bao Loc and DaLat during Christmas. Any suggestions on things to do?

    • Dennis I was young and dum the first time. Don’t believe I have any interest in a second time.Enjoy your trip.

      Sent from Jim’s I-phone

    • A friend of mine who worked with me at the Forward Support Activity near the airport returned and took a few photos a few years ago. Our compound, right next to the bird dog area, was a residential area, as was the Camp Smith (3/503) area to the east. Take a look at Google Earth and you will be amazed at the changes. Jim, my suggestion is to take pictures and send copies out to those like me who would enjoy seeing them.

    • E co Recon 3rd 503rd 173rd ABN 67-68 OCT. Crazy A.O. Came south from LZ uplift and LZ English first team to start Base camp for the Herd.

  5. I am trying to place a air force member in Bao Loc, Lam Dong in 1970. His name was Henry David Powell, I don’t know what unit though. Does anyone remember him?

    • I was there 1968-69. I was the radio operator for Captain Joe Weatherall. I was there when the VC tried to overrun the compound on August 21st. That night we were supported by the 173rd Airborne. 43 enemy soldiers were killed that night. The 173rd lost 3 men.
      Not sure if you were aware of the capture of Ly. Dunn and Pfc. James Ray just before I got there. Dunn was released in 1973 but Ray died in captivity.

      • Glen is just read your post and checked in to see if I could post any pictures but no deal . So this messages goes out to all I was part of Team 38 Bao loc and a fair amount of pictures.I was there from June 67 till March 68 if you would like to see them please email me your email address Iand I will send them out .
        I would think there are alot of you that have pictures

        • Hey Jim;

          I was at Bao Loc during the tet offence of 68. There was 2 of us 54th signal BN . . SGT Bush and I William Gilmore. All I had was a LAW when we hit the trench in the middle of the night. My plt sgt in nha trang told me to get my personal stuff and get in the jeep. I was not taken to supply to draw a M14 for the trip. Signal guys had 14s back then. Charlie never attack us during tet. . . he did kill a priest and in the town of bio loc but never came west where our compound was. bio Loc was one of only 2 places “Sir Charles” did not hit in south Vietnam macv compound. 2 weeks before 54th Signal was going to send me and another guy with 2 RATT rigs to Hue. . . for some reason this did not happen . . . I COULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN A BETTER PLACE . . the way it turned out.

      • I was there 1967-1968 173rd 3/503. We were extracted from Central highlands to Bao loc to a ARVN Base. I was with fire support team that night. Lost a man, Wally, and I was hit. just about every one on the team was hit. Pretty scary night.

        • I thought you guys lost three men that night. I do know if it wasn’t for you guys, we wouldn’t have survived. We had killed a VC in an ambush and he had a letter saying they were planning an attack on that night. That’s the reason you guys were sent to help us. So glad you all were there that night!

          • I was in a bunker on the perimeter when the sun came up that morning. You could hear the slicks for mop up that morning. WE were extracted so I never heard anything about KIA. What caught my attention was you mentioning the capture of men out MACV> I was sent to Bon Son to a LRRP Unit after discharge from hospital. Glad you made it home safe. Thank you have safe day.

      • I remember Maj. Wallace District Senior Advisor, MSG Brown (NCOIC), SFC Lindsey (District Medic) and Mr. Parrish (Phoenix). MAT 52 Lt. Carter, Lt. Montavlo, SSG Allred and mydelf Sp5. Gary Hicks (medic). Maj. Wallace had a calf and three geese if I remember right. I was there when Di Linh was overrun and US missionary killed by VC.

      • Gary, what happen to the team there? Was it closed or do you know? I finally retired as a Corps of Engineers civilian. And living in Medellin, Colombia for past five years. I must like it here.

        • Maj. Wallace it was there in Dec 71 when I left Vietnam, not sure of the names after the MAT team was inactivated I went to Bao Loc on a MAT Team Cpt. Tillman, SFC Travis, SSG Allred and myself we did a couple of operations in Di Linh District as I recall.

        • Yes I guess you must. I retired US Army 1993 as 1SG and retired in 2015 as a Police Sergeant in Arkansas where I am retired.

    • interesting. I was a Navy Corpsman there from 1967 to 1968. I stayed in that french house with a small MACV unit. I also worked in the small hospital up the hill from the house with a Dutch doctor.His first name was Hans but do not remember his last name. also treated some of the children at the the orphan home with the nuns.

      • I was there 1970-71. Remember a very large avocado tree (like a large oak tree) in the Nun’s yard. I gave the orphanage toothpaste, candy, etc things donated from our care packets. The young nuns climbed the avocado tree and gave me a basket full. I don’t think the doctor and hospital was still there. No memory of it. Visited the leper colony run by the retired catholic monsignor several times. 2 or 3 miles outside Di Linh. French man owned a restaurant in town and a coffee/tea planation owned by a French man. Have pictures but somewhere in storage.

        • I remember the orphanage well. The nuns were with the St. Vincent de Paul groups. Also went to the leper colony to see some of the people afflicted. Sorry to hear about the over run of DiLinh. That had to happen after i left. I remember the Army msjor who was in charge at the compound. Can not remember his name but a big man with a short crewcut. Used to play football in college. Glad you made it home safe and well i assume.

      • I was there as the radio operator from March 68 until March 69. Stayed in the big house also. Was there when the VC tried to overrun the compound. Killed 43 VC and the 173rd Airborne that was above the compound up by the hospital, lost 3 men. We knew they were going to attack so we got reinforcements from the 173rd.

        • Wow, glad you got out safe. We had no direct attacks on the compound but highway 20 was a bad road. I left in June 1968 as i remember. Had some anxious moments at the compound tho.

          • We’re you there when Pfc. James Ray and Lt. Dunn were captured on a road clearing operation? Sgt. Gantt was also killed.

            • No, i think that happened before i arrived. There was army major, army captain, and a radio operater besides me.

  6. Hello. I wanted to let this group know that I recently visited Di Linh and was able to meet some of the people who were there with my father in 1968. If anyone would like to see some of the photos or videos of Di Linh today, please let me know. My email is

    Thank you.

    • I want you contact you . I come from Di Linh Viet Nam. Can you email me back? My dad is looking forward to talking to your dad Tom. Looking forward to hearing from you son .

    • hello my name is Henry Nier. I was a Navy Corpsman assigned to DiLinh from 1967 to approx. June of 1968. I did a lot of work at the hospital although the staff was limited to several nurses myself and a Dutch Doctor whose first name was Hans, but for the life of me can not remember his last name. I stayed in the small MACV house down the hill from the hospital. we had ordered and received a 1967 international jeep blue in color as i remember. I would love to see pictures from 1968 or earlier

  7. My father’s name is Tom Gilmartin and he served in Di Linh from 1968 to 1969 as a Corpsman with the MILPHAP team based in the hospital in Di Linh. If you have any information or photos of him we would be truly grateful. Also, I have an aerial photo of Di Linh in 1968, if anyone would like to see it. Email me at

    Lastly, I was considering flying to Di Linh this month on the tailend of a business trip. Has anyone been back to the area? And if so, is there anything left that my father might recognize? I wanted to take photos of the area for him but I worry everything has been built over.

    Thank you for your time.

    Tom Gilmartin Jr.

  8. Gary I was already gone before you came in I do remember just clearing way for the air strip and setting up tent city .Thanks for you support .

  9. Joseph Mucelli passed away in 2012. He tried to locate Sgt. Hamby also, but with no luck. The last we know of Hamby was that he designed the Dalat golf course in the 1990s (?). I’ve searched the internet and other resources with no luck. I was stationed at MACV Adv. Team 38 from Oct 1967 until July 1968. I enjoy hearing from anybody posted there at any time. I’m compiling a book about Team 38 and would welcome any and all materials (notes, photographs, etc.) to include. I of course will give credit to any material I use. BTW, when I visited the MACV Bao Loc site in 1999, it was a automobile repair ‘shop’. But the Ag School dorm buildings we used are still there.

    • i apoligze, my father is ret. 1st class petty officer, larry e hamby. korea and veitam vet. once ud, and search and rescue..from his son, im trying to get more info on his service for this great country..THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Any suggestions on how i can do this?

      • One thing you can do is go to and enter his name and home state, if known. That website connects you to public and military records. Good luck!

    • I was at Bao Loc from June to April 1969. I was at the Forward Support Activity next to the runway at the airport. Our mailing address was c/o MACV Team 38. I was the SP5 that operated the automotive repair shop, but we all (there were only 35 of us) did everything. Team 38 allowed us to shower and get a hot meal the first month we were there as we had no facility of our own. We unloaded the aircraft, sorted, stored and delivered all supplies to units in the area. MACV was on sep rats, but we delivered your shipments from the airport to your camp. Glad to have met you guys!

    • My brother Major Donald Graney arrived in bao loc Sept 1966 assigned to MACH team 38 . On Feb 19 1967 he was infomed of a road block by VC and went out to investigate and became involved in a VC trap. While calling for air strike after a brief mortor and grenade battle he was killed along with another officer. I believe there was a sergent with them but do not knw of his fate.
      If you have any information on this I would be pleased to hear from you. Dan Graney

    • Giles E. Hamby, of Greenville, SC, died on 12 March 1991. I got this from the US Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014, thru a link in

    • I have photos and letters sent from my father who passed away. He was a MACV advisor from 1969 to 1970. If they would be of help for your book, let me know.

      • David lets get the pictures posted Many of us would love to see them . Do you have someone to help you load them ?
        Jim Christiano

      • What was your fathers name? I was on the MACV team 38 Di Linh compound from March of 1969 to Jan. 2 !970. I have a friend from W. Virginia that was there also. We have spent some time together since and talk a couple times a year.

          • I showed up with a signal relay station. Don’t remember the exact date in March. The team that was there left shortly after i got there. I met 3 different MACV teams or people and 1 MAT team and a Navy doctor with 2 medics during my stay. They were still taking showers under a 55 Gal drum. If you left in March of 69 you wouldn’t believe what they did to that compound during my stay.

    • My husband Joseph B. Johnson was in MAC V ADVISORY 38 in 1968, 1969 and 1970 did you know him? He passed away May 12, 2008 …he had a lot of illnesses after returning home during his last years of life.

    • I was there as a teletype guy . . . I was in the compound for a couple of weeks during the tet offence . . got to see my 1st yards while there . . they were along the road coming west from the town heading west. . . I am interested in photos of that time

  10. Sounds like Mucelli, Hamby they were 2 of a kind. I think they called J Mucelli the Pattie fox does anyone have a location on Hamby ?

    • I am looking for any photos taken during the tet offencive time . . . I am 5ft6in dark hair . .54th signal Bn patch . . . SGT busch was also there from 54th signal

  11. If anyone is interested I found several photos taken of the compound and one in the dining room at Bao Loc with several people visible who I do not recognize. I can send them to anyone interested, just let me know your email. Time period would be 1967. Take care, Al Fitzgerald

  12. My Uncle(whom I was named after) Maj Donald Caryl Graney – I believe was part of Advisory Team 38. My Dad (his brother) is still alive and doing well. I’m interested in learning more about Don and his service in the Military. I do know that he was killed on February 24th, 1967 in Di Linh Subsector. My understanding is that he was killed in an ambush style attack. If anyone knew him, or has pictures of him while he served, I would be very interested in connecting with you. Feel free to reach out to me at Thanks, Don

  13. I believe my dad flew out of Bao Loc in 1968 time frame. Capt. Earl (Robbie) Robertson, USAF. He was a FAC and I can ask him if he remembers his call sign. He has a lot of 35mm slides of photos he took during his tour if anyone remembers him and/or is interested.

    • Mike I remember your dad, he was leaving as I was arriving in ’68. He showed me how to clean my M 16 properly at the “flying Circus” building we had at the west side of the airport. We also put together smoke rockets and stored them for our missions one afternoon. The planes’ revetments and our building were there, along with a small ops area/radio stack. I was Intel…and replaced a guy named Kieffer. I think a guy Ed Lauffer replaced your dad along with a Capt Laurence when he went stateside, whom was returning to fly for PSA on the west coast. We were down a couple of pilots until Lt.s Lauffer and Coucher showed up.

      The general call sign was “Walt” I guess your dad was Walt 71, mine was Walt 70 India as I was Intel and reported to the commander of the group..always call sign Walt 70. It was a great group of pilots and support guys, including the people that ran the airport ops. By the way I’m glad your dad gave me a few pointer’s the M 16 it came in handy, thank him for me.

      Team 38 like many of the MACV groups was a mixed isolated operation usually Army operation, with USAF and USN attachments. As was team 38…Navy medical, and USAF operation from the 21st TASS out of Na Trang that moved to Cam Rahn Bay in ’69.

      • Hi Scott,

        Thanks for helping me with John’s last name. I remember you fondly, hope you are well and life has treated you kindly. I have an 8mm film with you and a few of the guys goofing off at the compound. We may have been in Sgt. Sheppard’s hooch with a few refreshments prior to that. Reach me at nobigdeal at frontier dot com .

        I’ve been trying to post messages all day on this site, but they all got eaten. I finally disabled adblocker plus and spelled out my email and it managed to post. This site is nice and all, but WTF. It’s impossible to communicate with anyone. Contact me ASAP, if you live anywhere between Michigan and Arizona. I found one of the Army mechanics, Sam Stegal, about ten years ago. He said he bought 10 acres near Clear Lake ,CA and was going to move there. Other than him you’re the first contact from Bao Loc. Do you remember the dogs, Mousey and Rocky? Mousey had pups in the intel bunker and there was a dispute about ownership. Saturday was steak night. You had to cook your own, but they were too tough to eat. I hope this posts.

        • Tom those tough steaks were (rumored) to be game including water buffalo taken by PSA & others on C&C chopper It was flown in daily from Nha Trang. Rarely stayed over night the chopper pad was Charlie’s bullseye for practice.

          • Evans, you just reminded me of on incident that occurred at the airfield. one of our BirdDogs was in for service at Nha Trang and it’s revetment was vacant. The Vietnaese had their own plane that always stood out in the open. The crew chief asked to park his plane in the empty spot. I said, sure, why not? The next morning I was the first one at the airfield, still a little hung over. I checked my plane out and signed it off. Then I pulled out a lawn chair and sat in front of the flight shack. After a bit the Vietnamese showed up and I watched the crew chief on his knees bowing to the pilot as he was being reamed ROYALLY. I sat there chuckling to myself wondering WTF, so I wandered over to the action and I couldn’t believe my eyes. The Vietnamese plane looked like swiss cheese. Both tires were flat, the windshield was shattered, oil was covering the ground and you could through the engine, holes everywhere!! The mortar left a dimple in the ground barely an inch deep, but it wiped out that plane. They brought in a flying crane to lift it out. Fortunately for me I reexamined my plane and found a piece of shrapnel had entered and severed some of the radio wires and I corrected the log book, Very suspicious. I recovered some shards of mortar that had Chinese writing.

    • I was next to a pilot while in the trench during the night . . . never bothered to learn his name . . everyone was pretty shookup as the tet offence was just cranking up . . . I would like any photos of the compound . . . the mosquitoes were ferocious there

    • Mike, I might have a photo of your dad. It’s a FAC pilot that I can’t identify. I believe his name was Robbie, but I wasn’t familiar with him, since he arrived as I was leaving. The time was Jan. 1969. My email is I’ll send it to you.

  14. Kristy I am sure I was in the team when your Dad was their .In fact when I took over the RTO lead we roomed next to each other . If you have a picture of you Dad that would be great as Names from that long ago have lost my mine. But all the memories are still there. I am looking for pictures that I have and hope top get them off so everyone can enjoy the same old memories .
    Jim Christiano

  15. I am compiling a book on MACV AdvTeam 38. Anything from anybody stationed there anytime, I would love to see. Contact me thru email address below.

    Neil Olsen
    Team 38 Bao Loc
    Oct 67 to Jul 68

    • Neil, I was one of the gunship pilots from the 155th Assault Helicopter Company out of Ban Me Thout. I spent a good bit of time at Bao Loc during the January to November 1967. I remember the two FAC pilots shot down during my time there. We were, also, shot down, as I remember, southeast of Bao Loc in June or July. We had a LT assigned to MACV with us as an observer. None of us got hurt, we apparently caught a VC unit resting and think we tore them up pretty good. I will be making my fifth trip back over next month and will make one more effort to find the old compound. The AG College and Catholic church are still there, but cannot find or recognize any of the buildings in the compound. Remember the great meals there, especially the pies the cooks made. I am going to copy this same information to a couple other people on this post, also. Good to connect with some of you guys. Let me know if I can be of any help. Al Fitzgerald Falcon 10

      • Hi Al, over the years I’ve often talked about flying with the gunships while in Bao Loc. You guys were absolutely fearless and a little nuts. If I recall one of the pilots was from New Jersey and was teaching me how to fly the gunship or at least keep it in the air. Those trips were without a doubt the most memorable moments during my tour over there. My memory’s shot for the most part but can remember some details. I recall one of the ships bringing back a stag that they shot and the cooks made some awesome steaks on an outdoor grill that someone put together in the compound. Also remember flying just above the tree tops with leaves flying into the ship. Was told by the pilots that the VC were less likely to hear us coming until it was too late. They were right. I have a picture of me standing in front a bird dog out at the airfield that either crashed or was shot down. Don’t remember if it was Capt Reeds. Have another picture of a plane that crashed at the end of the runway. Don’t remember why. I was with MACV and on my first day in Bao Loc Cpt Reed took me up to look over the area. He was forward observing for artillery and nearly got us shot down trying to draw fire to locate some VC. Loved to fly with him and his rocket mounted Bird Dog. Eventually I was convinced that all pilots must have been a little nuts. I was very impressed by all the pilots and their composure under fire. Always wondered if the compound was still there and who all were stationed there in 67/68.

      • that would have been lt jewel, and yes you made a mess we got to go in and clean it up. good job, ps sgt clark was in the other gun, 1/44/23arvn

    • I was at Bao Loc for a couple of months right before TET. I was an air traffic controller with the 125th ATC and worked the airport tower there. I have pics of an Air America C-123 that tried to autorotate into rw. 27 and tore up the runway in the process. I believe that the AF sent in a team to haul the bird to the end of rw 9 and repair the psp. We were back in action the next day and about a week later a couple of mechanics landed and repaired the 123. I was working the morning shift one day when the dammed thing cranked up, rolled out on 9 and took off. They never called the tower. Do you know where the runway was located with respect to any of the landmarks in town? Thanks Dennis Davis

      • The airport was located directly north of “downtown” Bao Loc…the main road basically ended at the airport…at the end of ’69 the 101st built a camp north of the airport and cleared off several acres in all directions. Also in mid 69 engineers cleared off the camp site we lived on to create a kill zone to the college and west and north off the highway.

    • My father served in Di Linh with MILPHAP Team 4. Would love to see the photos or any others taken around that time. He served there from 1968 – 1969. Was considering going back for a visit but I assume all the landmarks are built over. He used to be stationed in an old french house there. It was mortared a few times. Not sure if it’s still standing. Have you been back in recent years? Thank you for your time. My email is Good luck with the book.

      • Tom, i think your dad was my replacement on milphap team 4. I was there from 1967 and left around 6/68. You have given me a reason to go back and review my slides from that time. Have to see if i can have them placed on a disc.

    • Neil, I was there end of 1965 to Nov. 1966.
      I was Air Force radio operator working at Vietnamese sector headquarters while living in MACV compound. I flew with different FACs, during search and destroy missions, air strikes, photo recon.,etc. working this area. (Bird Dogs)

      Joe Gallo
      AIC USAF
      Note: Still have my honorary certificate from the gang at Bao Loc, given to me when I left. Many signatures on it,including vietnamese too.
      I’ve got many still pictures, slides and movies of Bao Loc and surrounding area..

    • let me know when you complete the book . . I’ll buy one. tet 68 was my time frame there . . . I had a IFFV shield patch on as a 54th signal bn guy

  16. i ran across a picture of a sign at a compound that says*maccords adv team 38 ,bau loc vietnam , apo u s forces 96493* any one have info on this … contact me on face book …virgil aycox

    • Maccords and MACV Team 38 were same unit. In 1970 the Vietnamization of the war started. MACV and CORDS were combined heavily influenced by the CIA and the PHOENIX program. I had the privilege of participating in it’s initiation in Saigon. And it’s follow through in Baoloc Lam Dong Province

  17. i was in Bao Loc from May ’67 to Sept. ’68. Attached to Team from 43d Signal out of Dalat. Some of the signal guys were Davis, Kerchenko, House, and Smith.

  18. George “Big G” Evans got to Bao Loc in June 68 shortly after James Ray was captured. Was trained as clerk in Fort Wood used as camp flunky in Nam. Including driver shotgun for MI officer CPT Kloet. Rto for strike force. Body retrieval details. Was present when 1LT James Hamilton allegedly shot himself. Left Lam Dong and Nam in Dec 1970. Anxious to go back while can still walk. Several PSA during my tour can’t remember them all do remember LTC Mueller and COL Stephens.

    • George, were you in the bunker when Lt Hamilton died? I ask because I’m trying to find an Air Force Radio Operator that was in the bunker at the time of the incident. His name was John H??? and he was from Wilkes Barre, PA. I can’t remember his last name. It was like Hockmouth or Hokenmuth.or something along those lines. He was one of the two Radio Operators from the 21st TASS. The other one was Learly Patterson, my bunkmate. Lt Hamilton joined us in the hooch the night before. That was unusual for him. We sat around in Sgt Sheppard’s room listening to a Motown tape over drinks, a nightly ritual. He seemed in good spirits so it seemed strange what had happened. It was a gruesome sight I can’t get out of my mind

      • Tom just read your comments today as I was searching for the old team 38…it was John Hollock…and I was there a few minutes after it happened along with Lt Earl Henn, Army Intel, Lee’s really good friend. Sadly it was an accident, from accounts at the time. Hope you are well.

          • Hi Scott, Thanks for helping me with John’s last name. I remember you fondly, hope you are well and life has treated you kindly. I have an 8mm film with you and a few of the guys goofing off at the compound. We may have been in Sgt. Sheppard’s hooch with a few refreshments prior to that. Reach me at .

        • Hi Scott, I sent two replies with my email address, but I don’t see them posted. Maybe the third time is a charm. . You remember the C123 that crashed across from the compound. It killed four guys. I have some film of the crash site on the day after. There was not much left, but the tail section and landing gears. I spent my days at the airfield and sometimes I would be the only one out there and the radio operators would inform me of an inbound plane and I would pop a green smoke to let them know it was safe to land. One afternoon a C123
          landed and Sgt McNeil was not around with his forklift so the pilot did a wheelie and a couple of pallets rolled out. Curious as to content, I noticed it was a shipment of Del Monte root beer. I like root beer, so I transported 2 cases back to the compound. It came in handy as a mixer during the monsoon when the place ran out of Coke. The C123s also delivered fuel in giant rubber bladders that they would off-load in the same manner. One time one of those bladders bounced out and rolled down the hill below the airstrip. The indigenous emptied it pronto. Contact me.

          • Hello Tom I worked with Sgt McNiel at the airfield. We usually took turns and worked every other day. I remember driving from the compound to the airfield. The kids would bet for food along the way. I started the habit of down loading the fuel bladders that way. Kinda raised hell with the houses below the hill.

            • Hey Gary, Glad you’re still kicking. You realize it’s been 50 years since we were at Bao Loc. I happened to meet one of the Army guys that was there at the time. He posted on this site, too. His name is Terry Welshan. As it turns out, he lives a short distance from where the Total Solar Eclipse happened, in Kentucky. So, I met him and his wife for dinner, on my way to Tennessee with my daughter her kids where we watched the Eclipse. It was a spectacular sight. If you remember there was a stream at the bottom of the hill where the Montagnard women used to wash and bathe. I would take some pieces of the ice that was flown in everyday and pass it out to the kids along the road. Some had never seen ice in their life. I could never figure out what we were doing there. Stay well.

              • Thanks for the mention, Tom. Yes, we had a great time sitting down to a good meal with you and your family. 50 years seems like just a few weeks. I have many vivid memories of Bao Loc and everyone I knew there.

              • Well come home Tom. Good to hear from you. Your e-mail sure brought back memories. All the little kids looking for handouts. One little girl would come to the airfield and sell bottles of Coke for 10 cents. Another would sell bottles of beer made from embolming fluid. Bom-De-Bom I think it was called. I requested some pictures a guy has from this sight. Hope he can send them. They are from the village and air field.
                Well take care Brother. Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Gary

                • on the east side of bio loc city was a bar/restaurant. . . SGT Bush took me there in late jan 68 and we bought a coke . . mine was a 12 or 16 oz bottle . . I drank half of it before realizing something was floating around in the bottom of the bottle . . I would like any pictures from bio loc during the tet of 68

              • Good Morning again Tom. Hope you had a Merry Christmas. I haven’t heard from you so I will send my e-mail to you again. Looking forward of pictures of the air field and any others you want to send. Thanks Gary

    • George good to hear you’re still around. I was USAF intel and back seater in the O 1’s we flew and on ground ops with Lt Henn and our Vietnamese counterparts as we visited the plantations often with Capt Phoe (FEHW). Plus extra night guard, back up medic to Corp Grouchow, and occasionally relief radio operator for the USAF. Col “Smoke” Stephens, about as fine an officer as I ever served with.

  19. I was TDY to Advisory Team 38 from the 4th Infantry Division (Oct 67 to Jun 68). Capt. Varona (the mad Cuban), and a sgt and I comprised the Combined Mobile Improvement Team training with the Regional Forces (mostly montagnards). I am currently compiling a book about Lam Dong province and the American presence there. During my stay, Maj. Mueller was the CO, and the late Joe Mucelli, Hamby, were there, too. I would love to hear from any and all of you about your experiences there. Also any photos would be really appreciated.
    Neil Olsen

    • Hi Neil just read your comments . I was in the in 1967, Served with Major J Mucelli ,Sargent Hanby and a Cuban Sargent Alabaster ???. Not 100% but Muller was the top dog then . Also that is when Capt W Reed USAF and his CIA second seat were shot down. I was the RTO that replaced Hedglen who broke a leg repelling down a cliff. Not sure if I have any pictures not a lot of time to take then but I do I will get back to this site

      • Mucelli, Hanby, Crops, and Baldanado made a second tour in ’69 when I was there. They were assigned to the “A” camps, montanyard villages, I visited them at Team 38th when they would visit and re-supply and with Army Capt Dennis’s(?) trips in his L 19 to the villages a number of times.We could take up ammo, beer and Cognac.

    • In late 63 and early 64 we went to Bao Loc with units of the 145th Aviation Battalion and flew elements of the 34th Regional Force Battalion and 54th Popular Force Battalions on search and destroy missions.
      In May 64 I was detailed to Advisory team 38 as their radio operator. There was only 8 Americans, including myself, in Bao Loc. We stayed at the agricultural college and had a platoon of Montagnards assigned to protect us. I always thought that our site could not be defended.
      I do remember the French family then owned and operated the tea plantation next to the airstrip. I believe their name was Bischtene (sic).

      • Mike, I was radio operator for Tm 38 from Feb 63 until Feb. 64 when I rotated out for Conus. Also my 3 year enlistment was up. As you stated compound could not be defended. We had a squad of Montagnards for secuity. ( 8 guys) i believe our unit at that time was 6 officers and 3 en listed. we were the only Americans in the area. There was a team at Di Linh but I don’t remember the number. Our supply was at Dalat and our net control station was at Ban Me Thut.

        • Tom,

          Somehow I missed your message of last year. I might of been your replacement as I am not completely sure when I was sent TDY to Bao Loc. I cannot recall the names of any of the team but I do recall that the Major-in-charge allowed one the French ladies to spend many nights in his room but demanded the rest of the team not to fraternize with any local women, which led to a great deal of grumbling. The medical sergeant was a really good guy and the operations sergeant was really intense. The operations sergeant and one of the officers were awarded CIB’s just after I arrived there for an encounter with the VC while on patrol. I also recall going with the medical sergeant to a bar, in Bao Loc, owned by a retired French NCO. I always wondered what happened to the bar owner when the NVA took over. Shortly prior to my departure the Gulf of Tonkin incident took place and I had to decipher the encrypted message that was sent to the team regarding same.

          Mike Hoke

    • My father James B. Jones was the medical advisor assigned during your time. I have a photo that has Mucelli, Sharp, Von Meter, Clark, Henry and Lai in it on a bridge. We have been going through his documents from Vietnam and have letter from Vietnamese nuns to my mother. My father is in hospice care because of a fall from Parkinson’s caused by agent orange. I’d love to know if you remember him.

      • My father is Ham Henry and I have had the honor to meet Maj Mucelli. I am compiling a family book on my father service. If you could send me the any photographs of my father or the area of operations (AO) I would greatly appreciate it.

    • I was in Bao Lac 30 Jan 1967 to 9th of Jan 1968. Was Sr Radio operator. Memory is not what it used to be, hard to remember a lot of the time spent in Bao Lac. When I was a short-timer, everyone signed an Advisory Team paper and I came across a couple of names that are on this website, James Christiano and Neil Olsen, Hoping maybe you guys can jar my memory. I’m glad to see some of the old team is still around.
      Thanks, hoping to hear from you,

      • Woody its been a while and now that I have lots of time I am going over some of the messages on the MACV sight .I just put 2 2 together I was the guy that replaced you . If I remember correctly you busted you leg rappelling down the side of a mountain is that you ?
        My Email is

  20. Hi Joe, My roomate Twoomy was also Air Force grnd radio. I got to the compound in April 67. Not sure but I beileve Twoomy was already there. I was an MI Analyst doing grnd and air surveillance. Have you heard anything about the compound or any of the guys that served there? Tried to locate it on google maps but no luck. That town really changed in 48 years.

  21. I lived at the compound Nov 65 to Nov 66. I was Air Force grnd radio operator working with FACs at that time. On ground and on recon missions.

  22. Is there anyone out there that served at the Bao Loc compound between April 67 and April 68? My memory is failing me and I can only remember the last name of one person from the compound who lived in my building which I believe was Twoomy. I recall my captain (name unknown) was shot down while doing surveilance in a Bird Dog. I used to fly with him and highly respected him for his expertise and courage. There were 2 gunships assigned to Bao Loc and I had the privledge of flying in them with some great and maybe a little crazy pilots on intel missions. The compound where I lived was a couple acres at best with a few concrete buildings built by the French. I was transferred to Pleiku in February or March and always hoped everyone made it out of there OK after Tet.

    • Dennis I was on the Team from June 67 till Feb 68. The Air Force captain that you talk about was Cap Reed he along with the CIA person went down together . And when the Air force sent in help the c130 they sent also crashed . I can also remember flying with the pilots in the choppers they were the greatest. I was the field and house RTO . Another person on the team was Lt Michael Thorp Great s2 guy .

      • Jim I have a picture of Cpt Reed in the mess hall along with several other officers, enlisted guys, and a movie star, name also unknown, who visited the compound for a day. Would like to know any of their names who you can identify. Also have several pic’s of the compound along with several questions. Can you email me at Thx. Dennis

      • Jim, I was one of the gunship pilots from the 155th Assault Helicopter Company out of Ban Me Thout. I spent a good bit of time at Bao Loc during the January to November 1967. I remember the two FAC pilots shot down during my time there. We were, also, shot down, as I remember, southeast of Bao Loc in June or July. We had a LT assigned to MACV with us as an observer. None of us got hurt, we apparently caught a VC unit resting and think we tore them up pretty good. I will be making my fifth trip back over next month and will make one more effort to find the old compound. The AG College and Catholic church are still there, but cannot find or recognize any of the buildings in the compound. Remember the great meals there, especially the pies the cooks made. I am going to copy this same information to a couple other people on this post, also. Good to connect with some of you guys. Al Fitzgerald Falcon 10

        • I was wounded in the hills around Bao Loc on Dec 13, 1968 and was brought out of the Jungle via Medivac on a sling. Any idea who the air crew or unit was that brought me out early Dec 14th?

          • I was with the 155th from Dec 66 to Dec 67. Most of the guys I knew would have been gone by December 68. Sorry I could not be of assistance. Take care, Al

        • My father was the medical advisor assigned to the team from June 66 to June 67. Sgt. James Jones. He passed away Monday night from a fall from Parkinson’s (from agent orange), we have been going through his photos from that time period and have several and a letter from Catholic nuns.

        • Hello, Al.

          Hope you’re well. My father served in Di Linh with MIPHAP Team 4. He served there from 1969 – 1969. Was considering going back for a visit but I assume all the landmarks are built over. He used to be stationed in an old french house there. It was mortared a few times. Not sure if it’s still standing. You mentioned going back a few times. Is there much left of where the Hostpital was or any other landmarks? Wanted to visit and take pictures of Di Linh for him. He recently underwent a liver transplant and I wanted to show him photos of the place he served. Thank you for your time. My email is

          • Hi Tom,
            Just read your post from two years ago. I am sure I would have met your father briefly in Boa Loc as he and his team was getting ready to rotate back to the states in May of 69. Our Milphap team had arrived one day and your dad’s team left the next so we didn’t have much time to get to know each other. We had a doctor and 2 corpsman assigned to Di Linh, Dr. Roger Benson, and corpsman Thiess and Anderson. The remainder of our team stationed in Boa Loc consisted of 2 doctors, 9 corpsman, 1 medical service officer and myself, a dental technician. I do have some pictures of the hospital in Di Linh where your father would have worked so if you would like some pictures please let me know. I traveled to Di Linh on a regular basis to treat the Montanyards and Vietnamese in the hospital and on Medcaps. Sometimes I was unable to get back and would stay over night at the Macv compound which used to be a French house. I have tried getting in touch with old team members over the years but have not had much success. I was able to find that a couple of them have passed since we returned in 1970, Dr. Benson, from Chicago and HM2 Ron Fisher from Anderson, SC. If anyone has any suggestions about how I may find information on others could you please let me know. Thank you.


            • Hi Pete, I remember Dr. Benson from Chicago. I would go out to the Hamlets or bunkers depending where you were standing with him. I was a draftee with the signal corp in Di LInh. My friend Bob Wyant from West Virg. always talks about him. I remember the 2 medics but not their names. They built us new hutches for the signal and 1 for the Mat team. A shower and mess hall in Di Linh. I found all that pretty amusing

            • Hello, Milt. Thanks for your reply. I would love to put you in contact with my father. He is still alive and has been interested in meeting other veterans from Di Linh. I recently visited Di Linh and was a able to locate the old hospital (still standing) but the MACV house is gone. A few old structure still remains and the village still feels like a village. I was also able to meet some orphans my father knew and a Montagnard hospital assistant. LMK if you’d like to see photos and connect with my father. My email is

    • You may be referring to Hillard “Hilly” Wilbanks…killed in action and was awarded the Medal of Honor. His O 1 was still visible when I first arrived in summer of ’68. It was a marker for us while searching the NE portion of the province. The plane disappeared several months after I started flying the area.

      • Patrick,
        Capt.Wilbanks was my FAC 1965-66, at Bao Loc. We lived with the MACV team 38, (about 10-12 Army guys) and did our best to keep the compound safe and the roads clear. I was AF radio operator (Packrat). Operated at Vietnamese sector headquarters, and flew with Capt. Wilbanks during air strikes, photo recon and search and destroy missions. Capt. Wilbanks was one of the best people I have ever met. I know his plane went down after I left Vietnam.

        Joe Gallo

    • I have a picture I believe is of your father shortly after his last mission prior to leaving Bao Loc

      • If you are referring to Gary DeVallance, it would be great to see. If so, then I guess you served with him and I have some of his photos from that time and please let me know how to be in contact to see the photo.

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