Team 50 Cao Lanh

MACV Team 50 – Cao Lanh

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    • Don’t know about a drop box – When I came back and process out in Oakland I had 30 minutes to catch a taxi to get to the airport. The MP found my scrap book with pictures and took it. I just wanted to get to the airport and get home, I would like to see the pictures but again I don’t understand a drop box?

  1. I have a picture taken with Martha Raye from the orderly room steps. Maybe you guys can photo shop it and change the face.

  2. Yes and the first thing he had court date was moved over to let him in his compound and take the big building has his hooch

    • Rich – not sure who your are talking about.. I recall Col Hackworth moving to the 44th STZ Commanders house. I think his old hooch became an officers club.

      • Yes he sent me down to the 9th infantry division that was standing down to pick up some slot machine and see if any of the girls would relocate to our compound
        Then I was task with taking his quarters and turning it into the officer club
        Had some high level poker games with the special forces and air American folks

    • I wish I had taken a photo of everyone on the compound and kept a journal. Trying to piece together thing, 50 years later is a bit difficult!

  3. Beside being the S4 I ended up with the sergeant (forgot his name) and ran the little px trailer and the mars station when not in the field

  4. Much of my time was in the office down from the TOC, close to the road. I don’t remember names too well: I was hoping someone would! The G-2 Air Captain’s first name was Steve, but I can’t remember his last name.

  5. Remember a captain who crash a helicopter and there’s some big question that the SA had about it

  6. I was in Cao Lanh from April 1969 to March 1970 as G-2 Air NCO. I spent time as the back-seat in the Army Bird Dog and don’t remember anyone else in G-2 Air, since there were only two of us in the Air section, the Captain and me. I have pics of the compound from the air, a napalm strike we observed, the airfield, pics of Christmas in the TOC compound, the weapons captured during the Cambodian incursion and many more. I think I can put them in Dropbox and get them to you.

    • Joe,
      I was in the G2 section until September 1969. Did you spend any time in the G2 office? It was located on the same side of the compound as the TOC. Do you remember any names?

  7. I was there for the insertion
    Kind of pissed off because when we came back found out that either NBC CBS ABC broadcast but we were doing at the same time we’re doing it

  8. Did you replace Major Robert Warren? Had a lot of respect for him. Read that he ended his career as a Colonel. I left Cao Lanh Aug 69.

  9. I was The S4 liaison advisor replacing the major that was there before me and left of September 1969
    I was in a country transfer from the first infantry division because I didn’t have enough time and country
    I did one Aircraft FO with our AF pilot
    On the little PX out of the back of the trailer and help Doctor with the snake

  10. I was there March 60-April 70 and worked as G-2 Air NCO. Been trying to remember the G-2 Air Officer. It might have been Steve Sullivan or Steve Boyd, but I’m sure his first name was Steve. He was a Captain. I also went out on the Birddog flights using the 35 mm camera. Learned how to process the film at the Phoenix compound down the road.

    • I was Intel Sergeant at the time you were there although I was gone most of the week flying some dam place. I am wondering if you remember the shake and bake SP5 that I had to send back to Saigon? After telling him to take a piece of UEX and dump it in the canal, he drove all the way to Can Tho in my recently signed for jeep and turned it in to EOD. A got a chewing for that. I was in Cambodia at the start of the Incursion. Were you with that one or did you leave before it?

  11. Terry,
    Team 50 had 100 – 150 members. We were just down the road from your team, the SF team and airboat site. If you contact Shannon, he has become the unofficial go-to Team 50 historian!! My only regrets, regarding my time with Team 50, is that I didn’t keep a written diary of names, places, dates. Nor did I take many photos. I wish I could contact Lt Steven Boyd. He was in my G2 section and always had a 35mm camera with him. He did a lot of Bird-Dog flights.
    Little by little, the team history seems to be filling in.
    Good luck

  12. I have a few pics. Capt. Steve with the kitten we adopted. The VN gal working in the office who had severe pockmarks on her face: always wore an aio dai dress. Some of the girls in the mess hall. One time one of the counterparts had an engagement party: I have some pics of that. Lots of pics, but not sure how to send them.

    • Boy, this is really sad. I sat in that office for almost a year. I just can’t remember a lot of names. I do remember Capt Jiles, Maj Ridpath, Gary Root AF Liaison, Lt Boyd, Bruce Ross – Analyst, Maj Ryder. After that, this are really fuzzy. If you have any photos, send them along.cwbydesign@aol.com.
      Thanks

    • Col Hackworth replaced Col Hassinger about the time of the Cambodian Incursion starting 29 Apr 70.

      • I have some pics of weapons captured during that incursion and displayed in front of the building in the center of the ARVN compound. Haven’t figured out how to send them yet!

  13. Yes I remember my office was in one of the outer building
    Where you there when Co Hackworth moved from our compound to the Vietnamese side in the big house?

  14. Hi,
    I left Team 50 early September of 69. We must have been there together. Did you work in the TOC or in the G-2 office, beside the parade field?

  15. My bunk was at other end of one of the barracks hit that night. An Air Force Liason Sgt was hit in the back ,when the round hit his room. Medivaced, but returned a few weeks later – minus a big section of muscle. I am sure Shannon must have helped him. Can’t remember his name but , as I recall, he had a really thick mustache

    • Carl, I’m a bit fuzzy about many things from almost 50 years ago, but I have vivid memories of that mortar attack. A round punched about a 1-foot disk of tin from the roof that hit him in his bunk.

    • I was a Swamp Fox crew chief moved from Long Xuyen to team 50 July 31, 1969. I was in the barracks the night of the mortar attach. I am sure it was within the first week. For me and my fellow Crew Chief room mate it was the first of several incoming. In October I moved down the road to team 84. I have several memories of events at the Air Field. Not all bad.

  16. That sucks! I guess I skated by having my photos mailed home or putting them in the shopping crate I sent back to the States. I have some pics of the compound from the air, ground, Tet ’69, and the FOP near Seven Mountains where the SF base was. I’ll se if I can find some way to post them, though I’m not really familiar with the process.

  17. I was the S4 advisor during the late 69 and was an inter-country transfer from the 1st Infantry division. Later on selected operations did air and arty adjustment but back in camp help with the MARS station, PX trailer, snake pit and did a few other things that Col Hackworth wanted done.
    When I came back the MP at Oakland took all my photos of the team and the 1st Division were I was an FO and later the S4 during our standdown

  18. I helped build the big como bunker and the 120 ft signal tower at back of the compound.The como bunker had AC to keep the como equipment cool.I worked in the commcenter and did was classified courier to 44th stz and b-43 special camp camp.We also did message relay over to moc hoa & chau duc vietnam.I was there from july 68 until april of 69.I was with 52nd signal bn out of can tho and was attached to macv tm 50.I would like to see your pictures I have my vietnam pictures on flicker account.
    You can reach me at tytel@aol.com and I will email a link to my Flickr page.

    • If I have the right team, I was a SP5 assigned to the advisory team in late1968 and left Vietnam in June 1969. During my time I remember Captain Tine (sp?) who was a pilot got shot down. I work for a major in S3, who was dedicated — but knew me well enough not to take me out into the field. He had a real infantryman (I think his name was Barlow) for the field. Not a lot of strong memories after all these years. But I do have a map of Cao Lanh and some 8mm film. If anyone is interested I think I can dig both of them up and send to you. When I look at google maps of Cao Lanh, I can’t figure out where the old compound was located.
      My primary memories of that time were riding my bicycle around and working with the Vietnamese. I also remember how the big operation we had when we surrounded the 502, but couldn’t get the Vietnamese to attack. I remember how disgusted the major was when our team was asked to bring in the 9th to clear out the viet cong.

      • Hi Rick, my name is Henry Nguyen (Newinn) and I am now living in Houston, Texas. I am lucky enough to discover this site and read your note saying about Captain John R Tine. I worked with Capt. Tine in Phoenix Program in Cao Lanh, Kien Phong Province. As I remember on May 1st, 1969 around 6:45 am Capt. Tine and I along with 20 PRU Tiger members were inserted into a rice paddy field in Phong My village by Helicopters. We were immediately met enemy resistance and a firefight broke out. A bullet went thru Capt. Tine’s lung and knocked him down to the water. He died instantly. I tried to wipe his face which was covered full of mud then we put him on a LOCH Helicopter for medevac. Your note has made me feel liked yesterday and the old memories again return to me. A sad moment runs inside me. I have prayed for Capt. Tine and his family. I also want to thank all of US Military men and women for doing a good cause in Vietnam. I am looking forward to seeing all of you in person so I could salute you or please drop me a line. Here is my email hnewinn@sbcglobal.net

  19. Joseph,
    The USO show I remember was an Australian group. I don’t remember that the show was on the same night of the jeep wreck, but it’s awhile. I remember the guys letting me play the drums. I’m an old drummer from way back. I stayed in the same barracks 2nd floor, first bunked with Joe Bohn then I moved down stairs later to my own room. I didn’t use it much because I was out on operations must of the time. I remember hearing about the mortar attack and the round that hit the bldg. I did visit the big commo bunker at the back of the compound a few times, can’t remember why. But it had A/C.
    Take care,
    Ronnie Evers

  20. I’m new to the site. Do you know if we can submit photos? I’ve been scanning my photos so they don’t get lost.

  21. To all former Tm 50 members,
    I’m trying to locate the pocket patch we wore on the right pocket. It had a temple that was distroyed by the VC in the 50’s in the center and the border going across from left to right separating 44stz and Cambodia. It also had the number 44 on it in a circle. If anyone has an extra I would be happy to buy it from you. I lost mine years ago and cannot find any on line for sell. Thanks
    Ronnie Evers Sgt, MACV tm 50 June 69-Feb 70.

  22. I was with Team 50 at cao lanh from july of 1968 until april of 1969.I was with a detachment of 52nd signal and we built the commo bunkers and the 120 foot signal tower at the back of the compound.
    I did comsec for 44th stz and macv tm 50 and made several middle of the night runs by myself in our jeep to deliver b-52 coordinates to b43 special forces down the road.
    Made many runs out to the airstrip in douce and half to pick up diesel fuel for the big 100k generator which we maintained on the compound that was flown in on on caribu.
    I have quite a few pictures from my time at tm 50 and would like to share them if there is a way I can download them to this site.
    Phillip Tyson
    Vietnam

    • I was therein 68-69. Got to know LT Frank Tumminia of the 52nd pretty well. You guys did good work, although climbing that tower used to scare the hell out of me. I have a server you could host your pictures on. Let me know if you’re interested (dick.dowdell@gmail.xyz). Just replace the xyz with com.

      • The LT and I use to deliver crypto gear down river to can tho Via Huey.We also had a young LT had red hair and was one wild & crazy SOB.
        Emailed you a link to my Flickr which has my pictures from macn tm 50.

    • I arrived about the same time you left. I was bunked in the barracks at the rear of the compound, the room on the second floor that was hit by a mortar round before I got there.

      • Joseph,
        I remember the mortar round hitting the building.
        I was on the first floor, on the other side where the round hit.
        Saw the flash before any noise from explosion, pretty scary.
        Roommate thought I was dead, he said I hit the floor like a dead weight. Still breathing, so I guess I made it.
        Was Air Force Radio Operator stationed with the finest group of US Army personnel.
        Welcome home all my Viet Brothers.
        Sgt. David K. Potter

  23. Doug Cruce,
    I actually ran across your name going through some old papers,a set of orders for the CIB. You and I are on the same orders. Your name triggered some old memories, The Lt I was thinking about may had been Diaz, but it’s been awhile. But anyway thanks for responding. Hope your knee recovery is going well.

    I do remember Cpt Sullivan and the mustache. Also there was a Cpt Travino, 2nd or 3rd tour, worked with him on several operations. Great guy, spoke Vietnamese like he was born there. Ltc Asp was in WWII and Korea. He wanted me to extend for a 2nd tour, but I declined. I had great respect for him. He passed away in 2003.

    I remember the night that a chopper pilot and his door gunner had been partying a little in the compound, left in a jeep and wrecked at the bridge that went to the airfield. The door gunner was killed. I remember going down there and helping to pull them out. Also one night a soldier must had got a “Dear John” letter and locked and loaded his M16, started spraying the compound in the air mostly. He kind of lost it for awhile. Col Hassinger came out of his hooch and talked him down, got his weapon and everything was okay.

    After Vietnam I had a short break, college, went back to work with federal government, active Army Reserves, in the 80th Div training. Was a drill sergeant in a infantry training bde, various leadership schools instructor, activated to active duty during Desert Storm 1991, retired in 1997 as a 1st Sergeant with a total of 26 years. Also retired from federal government with over 38 years and like you worked for a defense contractor for about 3 years. Married for over 43 years, 2 children, and three grandkids. Currently dealing with health issues, High blood pressure, Type II diabetes, Coronary Heart Disease, bad knees. Had a TIA mini-stroke in 2008. Claims in to VA for compensation related to Agent Orange.

    Well I guess I’ve rambled on long enough. Thanks again for replying and best of luck to you in the future.

    Ronnie Evers

    • Ronnie,
      I remember the two guys that hit the bridge.A USO show had just arrived and one of the girls asked me if she could get some aspirin for a headache just as we got the news about the accident. Referred her to the Doc.
      JHJ

      • The headache persisted for the Australian performer with the USO show (who was mentioned above by J.H. Jones). That evening she took what medicine remained in my medic bag. The next morning she (and the orderly room watchman) found my room, woke me before 5 a.m. saying she needed more Darvon. Nothing was left in my pack, so we made the trek through the darkness, and the Asian Cobras enjoying the warm cement sidewalk, on our way to the medical bunker. I am sure that all of us remember the headache and nobody would remember her black see-through costume worn during the performance nor her interesting wet street clothes (it was raining the next day). Fortunately, I carried a small camera in the medical pack – post your e-address and I will send you her photo taken during the performance, and the next day in her wet departure clothing (highlighting her attributes). She continued on her journey happy, healthy, and in good spirits.

  24. I was wondering if any of you on here recall a Maj. Thomas D. Redford who served as FAC (ALO 44th STZ) from Dec 1968 to Oct 1969. Thomas was my Grandfather and I am trying to gather as much information about him as I can to write his biography. You can reach me at bradfordjames8@gmail.com.

    Thank you very much

  25. To: Gerald Knuth and Doc Fagan: Doc, i remember you well and hope you had the same caring ways as a civilian doctor after the Nam. Gerald—you were stationed at Ft. Hood between 75-77 and we reconnected. Believe you were a WO by then and I had converted from an 11B to MSC officer/audiologist at Darnell. After all these years we are fortunate to recall the experiences we shared. No one evver mentioned the day Martha Raye entertained us at the NCO Club in Cao Lanh. Still have a picture taken with her in my office.

    • I remember Martha Raye’s visit very well. She was there with her guitarist (I don’t remember his name) in her Special Forces LTC uniform. She spent a long time at Crum Compound hanging out with the few of us there. Cracked me up with a story involving a pee-tube on a Navy aircraft on her way out to a carrier. Fine woman! In those days I was the Asst HQ Detachment Commander and the commander of the American security platoon in the compound.

      I’ll always remember Doc Fagan with appreciation. One night I hit my bunk with a 1/4 inch red patch on my stomach. When I woke up in the morning it was already a 1/4 inch deep. Scared the hell out of me. Doc Fagan scraped off a sample. Put it on a slide and stained it. Viewed it through a microscope. Looked it up in a book and mixed up some ointment that quickly cured it. I believe he had done his residency at a trauma center in Houston — was a real wiz with gunshot wounds.

    • You are correct, I was assigned to Ft Hood when I was appointed WO. In fact, I retired while stationed at Ft Hood.

        • Hi,
          I was there at the same time. There was a classical guitarist that was travelling with Martha Raye. She told a story about how she had to use the “bathroom” on the plane that was transporting her. Guess what, no bathroom! She was very sincere and humble and was certainly trying to bring a little laughter to the compound. She actually ended up sitting on my lap while the guitarist was playing.
          Also remember when Troy Donahue came to team 50.
          I wish I had photos!

          • I remember both Martha Raye’s and Troy Donahue’s visit. Martha also spent time at the Special Forces compound (after 50+ years, I think it was a B Team). When Martha talked about the pee-tube on the Navy plane you could almost see the flight crew’s faces turning red. Troy Donahue was a little bit under the weather.

            I’ll always respect and appreciate Martha Raye and remember in her Special Forces LTC uniform.

            • Amazing! We were in the same place, on the same day at the same moment. I remember Martha’s pee-tube story as if she told it yesterday.
              Quite a lady.
              Hope life is treating you kindly.

              • Carl,

                I’m doing well. Still working as a Senior Software Architect at 71 years old.

                I was a 1LT and Asst HQ Detachment Commander for Team 50. Before that I was S2/S3 Air for Team 53.

                Hope life has been kind to you, too.

                Cheers,
                Dick

                • Dick,
                  Team 50 was relatively small, but I cant remember names, faces or places. That is scary. However, i do have great memories of my Teasm 50 experience.
                  Best Regards,
                  Carl

  26. I must be old. I can’t remember names. Reading these posts I recognize only two names, Jim Pyle and Martinez, and the dog. I was there from January 68 though December 31, 1968. I was just a 19 year old clerk but filled my share of sand bags in January/February building bunkers. Memories of driving beer from the Special Forces camp down the road during those early months before we had any such place. And then transporting those beers in open containers as the SF boys said we were drinking too much of their beer and they thought this would slow us down, yeah right.
    I was just looking at a placque I received when I left, it’s says “He typed through Tet, but only once”. That’s because my typewriter was blown up and it didn’t get replaced for awhile.
    There was a master sergeant back early in ’68 but I can’t remember his name, but I do remember a few beers with him. I remember a Spec 5 Dave Chalk, I think, who came in March or April of 1968 and was promptly sent on an in country R&R, with me. I always thought they, whoever they were, didn’t want me to have to go by myself. There’s lots of memories, especially those early months and Tet ’68, some I’m sure altered a bit by time. I see faces but can’t remember names. If you were with MACV Team 50, 44th STZ in 1968 and remember an immature skinny tall kid with the name of Don Hinkley, please let me know, dcghinkley@bellsouth.net

  27. During my tour (68-69) we had a RVN Capt. that I work with in the S4 cell.- What is bad that I found this site and many memories are still buried. To this day, I really don’t discuss the war with anyone. Once in awhile I might meet someone due to my volunteer work as an emergency medical tech, who was in country the same time and we might talks or I just listen and they talk. I assisted did assist sarge who ran the MARS when I was not in the field which was across from the mess hall and help convert Col Ash quarters into the Officer Club which had some bad card games

  28. If the preceding mention of CPT Frank Guillot refers to the Ranger Advisor who worked for MAJ Harold Thorne, his name is Frank Gilliatt and he went back to teaching high school in Massachusetts after he left the Army. We were both 1LTs when I knew him at Cao Lanh. He is, I assume, still a great guy.

    Cheers,
    W. W. Dick Dowdell

  29. I’ve just finished reading all the comments here and notice most are from guys who were there 68 to mid 69. I recognized a few names—especially Col Hassenger and Col Hackworth. I was a CPT, TOC Duty Officer and then G-3 Plans Officer, from June 69 to June 70.

    I think G-1, who I didn’t really know, was MAJ Porter, G-3 was I think MAJ Davis. One of TOC Duty Officers was tall, thin infantry CPT with big red handlebar mustache on 2nd tour and not ecstatic about advisory duty (Tom Sullivan?) My memory is not so good anymore! Another one was CPT Darren or Darryl or similar McGavock or MacGavock .

    We had a Deputy Senior Advisor, COL Arnold A. Asp, who, if I remember right, was on his third war.

    Have been transported back 45 years with the reading I’ve done tonight—pleasantly so for the most part. Would love to hear about any of people I’ve mentioned as well as any I’ve not been able to remember tonight.

    • I was assigned from the 1st Inf Div to Team 50. and was the Artillery Officer who end up building the officer club from Col Asp quarters when Cot Hackworth took over. The doc and I had the snake pit.

    • I wish there were a way to post photos, etc., on this site. Shannon has shared a few, with me. I have a few of my own, from my time on Team50. I would also like to start a flow chart, with names, duties and dates. Slowly things are beginning to fill-in. There are a lot of names I do not recognize, and I was on the compound for a year! I worked, on and off, in theTOC, and prepared G-2 briefings every morning. I haven’t been able to locate anyone, with whom I worked, from the G-2 section.
      Best regards

    • Doug Cruce, were you a 1LT when you first came to Tm 50? My name is Ronnie Evers. I was on Tm 50 from June 69 to Feb 70.I was assigned from the states to MACV. IIB/airborne and sent to Vietnamese Language School, then Vietnam.
      I was assigned as communication nco working with PFC Joe Bohn, Small skinny guy from Texas. I remember Cpt Kennedy as the detachment commander and ISG Jap. When I first got there I worked with SFC Hooper/Hopper, Lt Rick Hartley and others I can’t remember. I remember Col Hassinger and Ltc Asp. Went out on many operations from Cao Lanh , Chau Doc, Chi Lang. Worked in the seven mountains area a lot. I was on Nui Coto from Aug to Oct 1969 (42 days) at the relay statation. Call sign “Mr. Crackback”.
      If you are the same Cruce, we went into town (Cao Lanh) and we had a little trouble that involved a local Vietnamese fellow pulling a .38 revolver on me at the top of some outdoor stairs. I was wearing my .45, but it didn’t do me any good. Things were a little scary for a minute or two and then settled down. Went back to Crum compound. Enough for now.

      • Ronnie Evers,

        Sorry not to respond sooner. Spent entire month of April in a Physical Rehab Facility for Knee Replacement/Anesthesia Reaction. Just completed two months additional outpatient therapy this week.

        We certainly had a several month tour overlap on TM 50, but the things you mention aren’t familiar and I was a CPT when I arrived in June ’69 rather than 1LT. If it helps any, I was almost skinny then, at 6’6″ and 190 lbs and had brown hair. So, like all of us, after this many years, you must be associating my name with someone else.

        I am so glad to hear from you regardless. To the best of my memory you are the only respondent to my post from over a year now. All the places you mentioned are familiar and I was at them all, at one time or another, but never for very long. I went on to retire from the Army in ’85, then spent 15 years managing two (in succession) small cities before returning to Army as a defense contractor employee for another 10 years.

        I hope you can look back on your time since TM 50 with satisfaction and fondness and wish you only the best in the future.

        Enough for now. Hope to hear more in the future.

        Doug Cruce.

        • Doug,
          I was using the MACV Teams website to look for Tm 84, which was in Cao Lanh and was the province team for Kien Phong Province. I was surprised to come across a Tm 90 which was also shown to be in Cao Lanh. I was on a MAT team and later a DSA, so I didn’t spend much time in Cao Lanh, so I was surprised to learn of this Tm 90 serving as advisors to the RF/PF training center. I vaguely recall the training center being there, but I never had any contact with it. In scanning the MACV Teams list further I saw a Tm 50, also in Cao Lanh. More surprise! Once again, I don’t recall knowing you guys were around. I scanned some of the emails from Tm 50 guys and picked yours a random to reply to so I could ask what your team’s mission was. What unit or headquarters did your team advise? Any idea how large Tm 50 was? Tm 84 had a compound across the street from the SF compound for a CIDG air boat company. Memory fades, but I’m guessing Tm 84 had between 50 and 100 members in Cao Lanh and maybe that many more scattered around the province in district teams and MAT teams. Thanks for any response.

          Terry

          Terry T. Turner
          Tm 84, MAT IV-32, 1969-70

  30. Just found a great set of photos. They are posted by LTC Jim Pyle, on Flickr. Just search for MACV Team 50. Col Pyle, thank you for the photo posts. I can see the 100′ red and white communications tower in one of the photos! As soon as that thing was erected, we started receiving incoming mortars.
    I just has a manicure, and the owner is the daughter of Col Le Duc. I believe he was one of the VN Senior officers at 44STZ. I showed her a Facebook photo and when she read the tag “Cao Lanh” she started screaming. Her father was friendly with my friend, Captain Ho Van Day. He was Headquarters Commandant of the VN side of the compound.

  31. Do not know if I posted this info prior, but I just remembered the name of the 1st Sgt that came in after Sgt Japp. His name was Tuchek. Jolly fellow. He wasn’t there long. We gave him a roaring party, at a restaurant outside of town.. Can’t believe we were out there past
    10 PM.

    • I knew Sgt. Tuchek. He was in G-2, with me. I remember he was a super patriot from some Eastern European country. I was there only a few months before he rotated out.

  32. David: I was in Can Tho from Dec 67 until about June 68. Moved from Tm 96 to the 41st BDQ and was with the three career soldiers I mentioned in an earlier note. Remember Denver Shannon because he was from Burlingame CA and I was from the nearby town of San Mateo. Still looking for Tony Rossi to close out my bucket list. Ended my time with Team 50 working in TOC and got flown to Japan in Aug ’69. Tony got all my gear home minus the boomerang I picked up in Australia. For some reason I had cleaned up my stuff and told him to keep the boomerang and get everything else to my grandfather in case I didn’t make it. Everything arrived as agreed and beat me home. Many great memories.. My high school 50th is this year. Wish people from 96 and 50 could have a similar experience.

    • Was he in the Air Force and attached to Team 50? I am thinking that he may have been our liason in G2. But then again, it could have been someone else.

  33. My great uncle was in Vietnam, he passed in 2007 due to a heart attack. I was wondering if anyone knew him, George Bellamy, I believe he was with MACV team 50 or STZ 44. Sorry I get a little confused about this stuff. He would have been in country sometime in the summer of ’68 until the fall, about October, of ’69. Thanks, and thank you all for your service!

    • Was your great Uncle George from Ohio? I seem to recall a very friendly fellow, maybe 5’5″, sandy-haired, and in good physical shape at the time, perhaps by that name.

      • Dear Mr. Erb, Somewhere, I have a photo of your uncle, George Bellamy, from 1969, and will let you know once it is located, however, I came across a rather stunning photo of Capt. Frank Guilliot that was taken during the “10-day battle for Nui Coto Mountain” (as it was later termed in military historian D.M. Giangreco’s article: Special Forces). Your uncle became close to a Team 50 VN employee and her husband, and found a photo of her but not of George. Your uncle very kindly looked after my wildlife collection at Team 50 which you can view at vva.org – click on the Jan/Feb 2013 magazine (Feathers article). The hawk (photo is further down from the snake photo) was obtained in the U Minh area and the snake is more local (as described in the article). Your uncle looked after these pets while I was away, which, as it turned out, was quite often. I was only known by one name, Shannon (Jack – isn’t my name but was assigned to me at MACV HQ in Saigon because my given name was confusing) and I was trained by Doc Fagan, who is featured elsewhere on this Website. The doctor who replaced Dr. Fagan refused to leave the confines of the compound, ever, therefore, I was constantly outsourced to other Teams near and far. I became homesick for Team 50 quite often. Usually, someone else had taken over my room and bed, and your uncle would always find a space for me somewhere. I spent a great deal of time with a friend of Major Thorn (Thorn is also mentioned here) Lt. Col. Hackworth and his Tigers in Can Tho. Team 50 was so special that Hackworth later moved here and became the CO (at which time he became the youngest colonel in the US Army). I believe your uncle’s time in Cao Lanh was the ne plus ultra of Team 50’s military history.

        May I add, if anyone from the Apr/’69 Nui Coto campaign might remember a young 21 y.o. lieutenant who was taken prisoner and tied (for several hours) to the lodgepole of the quartermaster tent at the staging area that was located a few miles away from the mountain. She was with the North’s First Division, 101D Regiment. She was then transported to Can Tho, then later to Cao Lanh (to the Swiss facility located a few miles from Team 50). She was wearing a Khmer Rouge karma (but she was not Cambodian). She spoke English slowly and deliberately but did not use pidgin. Besides her attractiveness you might remember her unusual eyes. If so, may I email you?

        Mr. Erb, I did not know your uncle well, but remember him as an upbeat and kind person, a friend to all, and you should be very proud of him.

      • Thank you so much for the information! He was one of the nicest people and always upbeat! I would love to see that photo if you can find it! Again thank you for your reply

      • Mr. Erb, Please contact me at: dshannon753@gmail.com – found two photos that might include your uncle. I will email the images to you.
        Actually, I found quite a few 1968-69 Team 50/Cao Lanh photos from back in the Mike Furr, Tony Rossi, et al. (many unidentified) era.
        In the above comment, the Cambodian scarf is auto spell checked and should be k-r-a-m-a.

  34. Do any of you remember a guy with a last name of Wedhorn? He was sent to Cao Lahn to be either a radio operator or swtchboard op. He was our first KIA in a mortar attack either in 67 or 68. He had only been in country for about two months. He was with Co C, 52d Sig Bn in Sadec.

  35. 41st Rangers were based just outside o Cao Lanh in 68 and 69. Charlie Japp was the E-7/8 there. I was a 5 and made 6 just before leaving RVN. Frank Guilliott was an 0-1 when he arrived and )-3 when he left. Major Harry Thorn was a direct commission from Korea. Carried a Swedish K and could have been in the movies. Charlie had a younger brother in SF at your original compound. Left there in Aug 69 after 20 months. A world away and a lifetime ago.

  36. David,
    Good to hear from you. I was on Team 50 from Sept 68 – July 69. Worked in G2 and occasionally worked nights at the TOC. We must have been there at the same time, probably worked together though my memory is slowing becoming cloudy. I remember the radio was in the back corner of the TOC. I was there during the Nui Coto operations. Were you ever on the mountain? There were times that I was on the radio with the CP on top of that big rock. I remember the Arch Light missions we flew. The ground was shaking all the way to the Team 50 compound in Cao Lanh. “Those Were the Days My Friend” so the song goes.
    Good Luck.

    • Carl,
      You are not the only one whose memory is cloudy my friend…..
      Was never on the mountain, only to the TOC at Tri Ton, an old French fort, and at a fire support base in the middle of a rice paddy, near the base of the mountains. Had 3, 105 tube from the US 9th, a few SF troops and the rest ARVN………felt real secure……..
      I basically coordinated between artillery and air strikes during the operations.
      You are right, “Those were the days”.
      Best of luck to you my Viet Brother.
      Dave

      • DAVID POTTER,

        I also was at Tri Ton, during Christmas week 1968, along with a 2nd LT Bone.

        We were sent out to ‘resupply’ & move the wounded & dead.

        My name is BOWE, I worked the supply room under a Sgt Corelli, I think, and took over most of the duties after he went home.

  37. Greetings to all Viet Vets.
    Was stationed in Cao Lanh, SF B-43 until they moved to Chi Lang. We then moved down the street to MACV Tesam 50 compound. Was Air Force radio operator, July 1968 to July 1969. Supported operations at Mt, Nui Coto with SF and ARVN 44th Rangers. Choppered to Tri Ton and fire support base in the rice paddies.
    Still remember the day we lost one of our FAC;s, Capt. Birchak, shot down by the VC. Seems like an eternity ago and other times very recent.
    Welcome Home my Brothers.

    Sgt. David Potter

    • I was stationed at 44thSTZ from 7 Feb 68-30 Sept 68. I was assigned as G-1 Adv. Major Jim Pyle. I knew Capt Birchak well. He flew for 44th STZ opens. I had been reassigned to Can Tho when I heard via radio that he had been shot down. Don’t recall the FAC flying with him. For several days there were efforts, by the VC Commander in the Cao Lanh District, offering his return in exchange for 100,000 US dollars. No firm agreement was ever reached, Then, after some days, one of our foot patrols came across the wreckage of the plane and the remains of Cpt Birchak and the FAC. Both were deceased. CAPT BIRCHAK WAS A FINE OFFICER WHO REPRESENTED THE US AF WELL. Thanks for including his name in your comments. I returned to CONUS in January 69, retired in 1981 with rank of LTC, Infantry. Best wishes for you and all our 44th STZ buddies.

      • Captain Birchak was shot down Jan. 11, 1969. His aircraft was found the following day. Captan Birchak and his Vetnamese observer were missing. I was there at the crash site, as I was his crew chief. (I was assigned to the TACP out of B-43/Advisory Team 84 from August 1968 to June 1969.) We removed the radios and the Special Forces guys disposed of the ordinance.His body was found a couple of days later. He had been executed, the Vietnamese observer later reported, when he refused to board a sampan. Yes, he was an excellent pilot and forward air controller. Hardly a week goes by that I don’t think of him. Mike Vouri

  38. I worked for a Ltc Alfred E Horlitz in Panama (Canal Zone) from June of 1969-1970. I was hish secretary. He was a great guy and told me many stories of his Vietnam tour. He was a ranger. He thought he would be going back. He was about 40 years old , married and about 5 kids. I have looked for him before. I just found an obituary but don’t know if that would be him

    • Lt. C Horlitz was my uncle.. He died after his second tour of Vietnam Nam, so you are right he did go back. We believe his cancer was caused by multiple agent orange exposures. He did have five children who naturally are my cousins. I stay in touch with them and would be happy to facilitate contact if you wish.

      Charlie Lange. Yankeerun@aol.com

    • LtC Horlitz was my uncle. He did in fact do a second tour in Vietnam. He died shortly after the end of the tour form stomach cancer. I am in touch with all five children and would be happy to facilitate contact if they are agreeable. Just let me know your wishes.

  39. I am sorry I haven’t responded earlier. Col Hazem was replaced by US SF Col William Hassinger who was SA until after the Cambodian Incursion. Was fortunate to accompany the 41st Ranger Bn that I knew from Ben Tre on a previous tour. Capt Gilliatt moved from the 41st Ranger Bn to our Asst S2 Officer. The Capt you mentioned was our Deputy S2 until DEROS. Of interest, Maj Reiber and I went to Saigon to brief Adm Zumwalt COMNAVFORV on our intel in the 44th. Turns out ours was closer to theirs than J2 MAVC’s. Operation SEALORDS was pretty successful. The folks of B-43 received a Navy MUC, later expanded to all of Co D and some 44th STZ elements a part of SEALORDS. The tower was built by the 52s Signal Bn. The CO, LTC Morgan was my last boss in the Army as CG, USACECOM, MG Morgan 1986. I kidded him about his VC mortar aiming stake. My time in Vietnam – about 2 and a half years was all in the Delta – My Tho, Ben Tre, Chau Doc, Cao Lanh. Too bad we didn’t have MAT’s prior to TET of 68. What a lot of US veterans of Vietnam never experienced was association with the good ARVN units we advisors did. The Ranger Battalion, VN Marine Battalions were simply good soldiers. LTG (R) Burton D. Patrick was the advisor to the 42d Ranger Bn (worst AO – U Minh Forest area) who knows how good the Rangers were. He has a page on VNAFMANN -BDQ Biet Dong Quan. I talked to this fine gentlemen recently. Hope to hear from some of you. Lou

    • Lou,
      Good to hear from you. We were like two ships, passing in the night. You were arriving at Team 50 and I was departing. Actually, we may have been on the compound together, for all of 30 minutes. I was in Japan, on R&R. When I finally got back in country, I caught the SA’s Ship back from Can Tho. while on the flight, I found out that my orders, to leave, had come down early. When the copter landed. the pilot gave me 30 minutes to pack and get back on.
      So, if you were there in Late August, 69, we were literally in the same place at the same time. It was a great year. Have a Happy and Healthy New Year. Send some photos if you have any. cwbydesign@aol.com. I have a few of the TOC, parade field, new latrine, communications tower and the JP4 fuel dump in the back of the compound. It almost blew-up one night, when a flare, from a Spooky Gunship, landed in the middle of the dump. Some brave soul, ran outside and moved it before it could do any damage!

      • Have been out of the net for quite a while. Don’t have any photos left, they went south with a divorce. I remember I have been trying to piece together a helicopter carrying U.S. personnel, the crew, and the CO, 41st Ranger Battalion near Moc Hoa. We had a new MI LT in that was going to work with B-41 at Moc Hoa. Can’t find out much on this. Also the name of the 41st Ranger Bn CO. I worked with that unit for awhile in Kien Hoa Province, 66-67. When I got to Cao Lanh in 69, it was there. We had Capt Gilliatt transfer over the G2 shop to finish out his tour.

        I spent days in the back seat of Bird Dogs. I had trouble covering the border with photography as the miles were just to much. I know the impact that Team 50, USSF, the MACV Teams and the Navy had on Charlie’s logistics. April 70, the Cambodian incursion really did him in.

        Sure wish I had some of th 4500 photos I took for intel and briefings. As I write this, I am in Vietnam at the Caravelle Hotel. I stayed here a short month or two in 1961 TDY. I didn’t make it to Cao Lanh this trip but saw some of the Dong Thap (Plain of Reeds) in 2012. Big rice growing area now although Kien Giang is having a water shortage if you can believe that………My email is loumisgm@yahoo.com.

        Read T Turner’s posts – I met him in Counterparts. He was a MAT type. When I arrived at Team 50, I was at a briefing where they mentioned a fire at a MAT Team. Being gone to Europe for two years, I never heard of them. Wish they had them earlier.
        Hope things are well with you.

  40. Hello every one , my dad was in Cao Lanh from 1970-72 he was MSG Robert Fowler.Do any of you remember him? if so i would like to know how he was. He passed on in 05 from cancer.

  41. Doc Fagan: I remember you well. As far as SFC Martinez, after college I was going thru officers basic at Fr. Sam. I saw WOC Martinez and he was going thru PA school in 1974/5. It was great to see him. You both left very favorable impressions. By the way—Colonel John FP Hill was buried at Arlington (DSA of IV Corps), in about 2012. He lived to be 95. Best wishes, Doc.

    • Michael Cox McKague….Saw your comment and want to add a few words. I was assigned to 44STZ on7 Feb 68. Remained there unitil 28 Sept 68, when I went to Can Tho with G3 Shop. Col Hill was C/S at IVCORPS. SFC Hiram Martinez was our Medic in Cao Lanh, and took us thru some hectic times. We were hit hard on 6-7 January 68 with 3 KIC and about 12m WIA. Next time was a 17 Feb, no casualties that time. However, we did have a casualty on the compound which was a small brown and white dog, that was limping across the compound. I went out and got him and brought him over to Hiram for treatment. He tried toy patch up the wound….either shrapnel or bullet hit him in what would be the ankle on a front foot. Terrible pain I know. Horam could not get the stitching to hold, so I told him to try and amputate. He did. Got that little fella doped up, took off the damaged part, stitched the open end, and put him down. I have never seen such a happy little fella as that Dog. Her took off running around the area, visiting some of the other Team members, happy to be alive. He stayed with us for 3-4 days, always coming around to visit. After about 4 days, he departed and we didn’t see him afterwards. I assumed that he might have gone into somebody’ s cook pot but that wasn’t to be. About 2 months later, I saw him coming across the compound again looking for somebody he knew. I picked him up, had a reunion of sorts, gave him some food and water. Put him down and he again made the rounds to other folks. He stayed about a week and then was gone. Didn’t see him again. Great experience, for many of us. The Little Dog, there other Advisors and I, Doc Hiram Martinez . I departed nfor Can Tho shortly afterwards. Glad to hear that Hiram went further with his medical practice. BTW….it was not policy for anybody in Team 50 to get the CIB. Regardless of MOS. So, I checked andf found that the Combat Medic Badge could be awarded, so I put Hiram in for it, and he got it. Glad to hear about him. My best to you and all the former “residents” in Cao Lanh and other nearby places. I visited all of them. Jim Pyle, LTC INF Retired in Alabama.

  42. Dr Fagan,
    Thank you for your comments. Were you on the compound, full time, during 68 – 69? I remember being treated by one of your medics – Shannon. Wasn’t for a war wound though- just knee problems. I fell off a bunker, one night, when we were receiving some incoming mortar rounds!!!!!! Some of the missing pieces of the Team 50 puzzle are filling in.

  43. Great to hear from you. I will certainly let you know when I am in CA. I have a very good friend, from Cao Lanh, who now lives in CA. Captain Ho Van Day, he was Headquarters Commandant for the Vietnamese side of the compound. I first became friendly with his children. They would stand, with their friends, at the back side of the compound, near the fuel depot. Loved to give the kids candy etc. I later found out the family actually lived on the compound, at the very back end behind the communications center. There was a row of tin huts for the HQ. 10 years later I was able to sponsor one of the kids.
    I only have found memories of my time on Team 50.

  44. Michael,
    I believe you were a Sgt at the time. We worked together during some night shifts, in the TOC. As I recall, you did not smoke. Rossi, if my memory serves me correctly, was hit, just below his eye, with a piece of shrapnel. He was CQ that night, and went running through the compound yelling “incoming.” A round hit one of the concrete walkways, just in front of him. If I do not have the story or names exactly right, it is because a great deal of time has passed. However, I do remember you as being very soft spoken. I do recall Team 50 with fond memories. The experience has remained with me for all these years and is one of the most important parts of my life. Please keep in touch, if only through posts on the web site.
    Carl

    • You are correct about Tony and catching the shrapnel below his eye. He was from West Virginia and I have tried to find him for years. I noticed you wrote about Can Tho also. I was there from Dec 67 till about June 68. Have met up with Dale Boatman and Mike Garcia in the past two years. Great guys. One retired from law enforcement and the other as a railroad engineer. Yes—I did time in the TOC also in Cao Lanh. You must have known SSG Ernest Toby. He was both with Team 96 and also 50. You have a good memory for details. I eventually returned to CA after second active duty time. If you are a west coast guy, let me know.

  45. The senior advisor was Col Mitchell J. Hazem. The First Sgt was Charles Japp (I believe from South Carolina). He and I were together initially with 41st Rangers (along with Major Harry Thorn and 2LT or CPT Frank Guilliett. Sgt Japp had a younger brother in the SF unit also in Cao Lanh. Both really good guys.We were located outside of town but ate your food and enjoyed the contact. You mentioned the mortar attacks. A good friend caught some shrapnel during an attack on the compound, possibly in June 1969. Name Tony Rossi of West Virginia. Have been trying to find him for years without luck. Carl—my memory is fading but if you were in TOC at all, we probably met. I was in Can Tho from Dec 67 to Jul 68 and then Cao Lanh until Aug 69.

    • Remember when Major Thorne and his group got into a bad fire fight and only air support was a couple of us Swampfox BirdDogs with rockets.We did hot rearming at Cao Lahn airfield.I don’t remember how many times but until I took a round in engine but made it back to airfield ok.

  46. Does anyone remember a LTC Alfred E. Horlitz who was at Cao Lanh from about September 1971 to August 1972? He would have been a Sr. Advisor at the time. I am researching his Vietnam service for his family, not former MACV. Thank you all for your service, and for taking the time to read this.

    • I am Lt C Horlitz’ nephew. I have some photos letters and anecdotes but nothing official . Contact me if any of that would interest you.

  47. Team 50 was set-up to advise the ARVN 44th STZ- Special Tactical Zone. This consisted of the four provinces (Kien Giang, Chau Doc, Kien Phong, Kien Tong) in IV Corps, that bordered Cambodia. Its main mission was to stop infiltration of the NVA, from Cambodia.

  48. Louis,
    I arrived at Team 50 in September of ’68. Yes, Maj. Reiber was the G2 officer – a really nice boss.
    Can ‘t remember the Senior Advisor’s name (Hazen?), but the First Sargent’s name was Japp. It is so great to finally connect with someone that was on the compound. After I was there for a few months, a new communications center was built. Then, a 120 foot high, red and white, radio tower erected. The only thing that was not on it was a blinking red light.
    Several weeks later the mortar attacks began…on a regular basis. The Special Forces Team down the road, finally got a chance to see some fireworks.
    A month after the communications center was finished, an engineering company, from Cranston RI (my home town), arrived and built a new latrine – with flush toilets! The three seat latrine was finally gone, along with the cut-down, 55 gallon drums under the seats.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I worked in the G2 section as an analyst. Went out on quite a few operations (just to relieve the boredom). Set-up CP’s and my hammock. Also worked nights, for a few months, in the TOC.
    I became very good friends with one of my counterparts and, 10 years later, had the opportunity to sponsor one of his children and one grandchild. I have remained very close to them ever since.
    I have great memories of my year in Nam and Team 50.
    Stay in touch.
    Carl

  49. I was assigned as Intel Team Sergeant, Team 50 in July 1969 – Carl must have been leaving about the time I got there. I was at Team 64 for a few days, then Col Hassinger, the Senior Advisor had me moved to Team 50. Major Reiber was the G2.

    • I was the medical doctor for the team that year. Terry Fagan MD. Am enjoying your memories. Major Thorn was memorable for sure. Had medics Martinez and Shannon.

    • I was assigned to the G-2, 44th, Adv tm#50 from May 68 until April 69 but spent most of the time hopping around from Moc Hoa and Chi Lang supporting Operation Delta Falcon. I did work in Cao Lanh after returning from R&R and ate Christmas 1968 dinner at Tri Ton supporting an attack on the mountains.. I was an interrogator but the ARVN didn’t want any advice on interrogations so actually as an analyst.

      • When I arrived at Tm 50, Col Geraci was the SA. His call sign was “Mal Hombre”. He left to become a Brigade CO for one of the 9th Inf Div Brigades. He was replaced by Col Hazem.

      • Gerald,
        I think I remember you. If you had very blond hair, and took care of it like James Dean, then you are the one. I even sat in on an interrogation session of yours. Did you take language classes at the Presidio?
        Carl

        • I had taken German @ the Presidio of Monterey and AFTER my time in RVN went to Vietnamese language training (47 weeks) in DLISW (El Paso, TX) but alas, the war was over before I could leave Travis AFB for my 2d tour. Too bad (haha). I retired from the Army in 1977 as an Interrogation warrant officer.

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