Team 87 Xuan Loc

MACV Team 87 – Xuan Loc

This Page is intended for the discussion of the Military Assistance Command Vietnam Team 87 located in Xuan Loc.

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  1. For Bill Stoner,

    Sorry to heard about your bout with cancer. Did you get the AO screening physical from VA a year or so ago. I did, and they established a base line for me and listed every place I was during all tours with the dates. I have had no symptoms associated with exposure. I walked all over III Corps during my time there especially war zones C and D., the Iron Triangle, Dogs Head, etc. Most of my exposure was to dust, not liquid. I am just having normal old age symptoms, aches and pains. lol

    • Hi Joe….many thanks for your kind reply. Be sure to watch those PSA levels in your annual blood check. Keep well, safe and all best, Bill

  2. Can anyone remember Rodney Nauman , not sure of the name spelling. He was a radio man that went out with the advisors on missions. He was there in 66. Got wounded. like to talk to him.

  3. I was attached to team 87 from Jan 66 to Jan 67. I wonder if any remembers how tall the como was. I used to have to climb it a month to replace the batteries in the field phone. Artillery officer would direct fire from there. I was caughtup there one time when the cong the fuel dump on the air field.

    • The tower was an AB-216)
      I think it was up to 200 feet at the top
      Took a few hits in the guy wires during
      Yet
      Dick Wolfe Xuan Loc 67-68

    • Chuck Billeaud

      I was there in 68-69, I used to climb that tam tower all the time. I believe it was around 320 feet. I was on the top when Husky let lose with their 175’s it shook the crap out of the the Com-Tower. I made it down from there in record making time. I still have Pics of it. Took a lot of Picks of the Compound and the Airfield.

  4. I am wondering if any remembers how tall the tower was. I used to climb it once a month to change the batteries in the field phone on top platform. I once was up their when the hit the fuel depot at the airfield. Rod Lynch

      • I can ‘t remember the date but it seem like it was august or Sept. I had my camera with me I have slides of the attack and maybe the slides will have a date.

        • Yes, I believe it was in August. I was there at the time. It was about dark time. I was walking to the villa I stayed at in Bien Hoa. My first exposure to actual mortar attack. 1965

          • My first mortar attack was about week after I got there. I was on the switchboard in the old como building.. I thought the roof was going to come in on us.

  5. For Harold Caldwell.
    I came to Team 87 camp about August or Sept 1965. I was in Bien Hoa before that. I eas TDY to Bien Hoa and stayed in a french villa with some other guys. I was never assigned duties in Bien Hoa. I was in the EM club just about everyday talking with other guys about what was going on with no duty assignment yet! I was in Bien Hoa when there was a big mortar attack, I believe in August 1965. I just missed the bomb attack on the saigon floating restaraunt by a couple days. Went there frequently. Best cream of chicken soup i have ever had! Used to stay at the continental hotrlbin saugon when i had time off. Never went on r&r. Was in xuan loc when we built a cinder block commo center there. Had acreal gung hi captain that made us fall out for chow and work formation till the colnel had a talk with him!! Dont remember any names from there. Was there for Martha Ray when perform on the makeshift stage. They built a little hut for a bar after i was there for a while. I can remember one time we had a night time mortar attack and puff the magic dragon came and took care of that real quick! I have a few other memories ifbyouvare interested. Have not had any contact other you from the time i was there Sept 65 to april 66. Take Care, nice to hear from you.
    Doug Sichler 312-810-8345
    Majikman1@yahoo.com if you have any pics.
    Thanks

  6. Can’t quite follow the dating system these days, but responding to Team Surgeon info I well remember Doc Bagwell. He was sharp, funny and had a solution to end the war. Put Johnson and Ho Chi in a ring with spears and may the best man win. Then everyone goes home.

    • (at the time) Frank Blackman., Now Mahendra. I was with the 135 AHC in Blackhorse Royal Australian Navy says:

      The surgeon I worked with was a red-cross volunteer from Canada, I don’t know if his name was Bagwell . We were working in the civilian hospital.

  7. just found this spot. weird to read some of the stuff. was with andy strong when he got killed. just a new be. Hi haylett was with you on both mountains and smitty the black guy. would love to chat so get ahold of me if you read this.

    • Hi “speaker” . You’ll need to fill in your info so I can know who you are , but I can only think of one guy. Smitty and I were alone when we went to set up the site outside Tay Nihn. I was sent home after 2 months on that hill. Sorry but names have never been my strong suit so you will remind me.You must be the guy I took on his first trip to Saigon. Contact me at edward.haylett@earthlink.net

  8. I’m Nguyen Van Suoi. I used to to ne an interpreter for American advisority team 87. I am looking for a teammate John C. Lamar at 18 DIVISION in Phan Tri training center at Long Giao Base who worked there in 1971 then goong back to America. After that in 1972, he went back to Vietnam and worked at Bien Hoa Air Force with the position of LSI. Then he moved to Quy Nhon air base. From that moment I lost his contact. Please contact me back if any of you has his information just let me know at 1/57 block 5 Tan Phong ward Bien Hoa city Dong Nai province Vietnam.

    • Hello. I am also looking for information about my Vietnamese counterpart. I was with the 18th Division G-3 TOC and the I&R. . My name is Edward Yava and everyone called me Chief.

        • I was in TM 87 69-70. I read this on line…
          Edward Yava says:

          December 28, 2015 at 4:53 pm

          I remember a ARVN Sgt Vo Van Vu with 18th Div also Major Xa who was KIA in Phouc Tuy.

    • Chuck Billeaud

      My first night in Xuan Loc with Team 87, I was with Comm that night April 18 1968 I was sitting in the Open Air Movie Theater watching Bonnie and Clyde thinking this isn’t all that bad. That is until the Machine Gun fire, Mortar and Rockets started coming in. My Opinion Quickly changed. I made friends with a Vietnamese Interpreter.

  9. For Doug Sichler – I was assigned to the 18th in late Nov (65) or early Dec (65). My name is Caldwell and I was the Team Sgt Major.. ARVN Div did not have a Sgt Maj in their TOE/TA. In effect I became Col Ridenbaugh’s gofer…. I had some experience in the I&R field and helped out the Div I&R company until a company grade officer (cannot recall the Cpt name) advisor showed up. I had an RTO named GROUT from Sparks, NV. I stayed with the Unit until I rotated in Jul (66). Done another tour with the 101st in 68 and 69.. Retired Aug 73. Living in rain soaked OR.. The RVN monsoon season was like ‘boot camp’ for OR….

  10. For Marv Zumwalt (Captain) Several years ago I found a site devoted to the An Loc Battle. A lot of information To think I missed that operation by a few months. I may have been involved had I not rotated in December. Anyway, I am so glad you survived. Hope your civilian life has been good and productive. I am totally retired now, after 28 years in the Army active and reserve, & 25 years working for a Defense Contractor. You never said if you were the Captain I worked with that night at Black Horse in September 1971.

    Joe

  11. For Marv Zumwalt, Thanks for the reply. I have read the story about your close call while with the 52nd in March (Captain). I was interested to know if you were the Captain I was with at Black Horse during the Vietnam Presidential election in September. If not, do you know who it was? I know I was sent there for a day or so until LTC Ginger could be sent from Tay Ninh. Seems the Regimental Advisor had been relieved.

    Joe

    • For Joe, I was only in Team 87 a few months (Dec 71 – Apr 72). I was shipped to Walter Reed in DC in May. There were no other Captains on the team during my “short” tour.

      Marv

      • I was a captain with Team 87 from Jan-Dec 1972. ‘Started out with 48th Regiment at Long Giao, was wounded in February, returned to the Team after two weeks and ultimately ended up with TF 52 in An Loc after Marv, SFC Winland, and LTC Ginger were evacuated. Stayed at An Loc until 9 July when I wounded a second time.

        • Thanks Jim, The Captain I am looking for must have left before TF52 was formed and sent to An Loc . Marv Zumwalt doesn’t remember me and I don’t remember him. Thank you for writing that paper on An Loc. That is what started my search. I had met LTC Ginger while at Tay Ninh. He ended up being the SA for TF 52 with Marv and the Sergeant that were wounded. I got out without a wound. Although close a few times.

          Joe

  12. I was a member of MACV Team 89 Nov ’71- Nov ’72-As the District Senior Advisor. During the Easter offensive of 72, my district ,Dat Do, in Phuoc Tuy province received help from 18th ARVN division. I was in contact with the Division Senior Advisor, whose callsign was Buffalo 6 (mine was Hawkeye 27). Does anyone know who he was?

  13. Hi the one I worked with was a red cross volunteer surgeon, I believe from Canada. we were working in the civilian hospital, army captain Snyder was our boss. I was hoping to contact anyone from that time frame and medics working for Snyder.

  14. My father was in Xuan Loc in 1968 or ’69. Col. Walter E. Coleman. He has been deceased for 10 years and didn’t talkbout his fighting in WWII, Korea, or Vietnam but I know from his files that he was in Xuan Loc. Does anyone remember my father? Thanks.

    • Yes…..he was The Senior Advisor to the 18th ARVN commander of Advisory Team 87 and was a vicious volleyball player as I recall. Sgt Zoomie Xuan Loc JUL 67-SEP 69

    • Yes I remember him. He knew who was in the field doing the fighting and not at the compound . Several LT’s including me who had disputes with higher ups found out he took our side.. I always wanted to contact him in later years. When I found out he died I sent your mother a picture I had of him.

      • Thank you. I will look in my parent’s photo albums for the photo you sent to my mother. I also appreciate your saying that he stuck up for his men. Bill Coleman

    • I worked for your father from September 68 through March 69. He was the senior advisor to MACV Team 87 headquartered in Xuan Loc. After I left Vietnam, I did not any longer have contact with your dad. He was under a great deal of pressure from his boss. The 18th ARVN Division had a very weak commanding general and was not much of a leader. It always seemed that the III Corps people wanted more and more and the stress was obvious. He and I got along very well. I am sorry to hear that he is deceased. I believe he was awarded the Silver
      Star but I do not know the details.

      • Thank you for the reply. My Dad was awarded the Silver Star for action on 14 March 1969. He retired at the end of 1972 after 30 years service. Thanks again. Bill Coleman.

    • Yes, I worked very close with your father during the period 1968 thru 1969 and can tell you a real scary story about one of our ordeals. I also have a picture of him awarding me a medal which I don’t remember which medal. Your father loved milk shakes and had one almost every evening that we spent together at Xuan Loc. My name is Major Daniel E Griffin, 2 Pennwood Lane, Pueblo, CO 81005. Phone # 719-561-4749, E-Mail: dangriff8@msn.com – I was a Captain when I served with your father and retired as a Major.

    • Col.Walter E. Coleman. military team 87. I james wade, served their from Apr. 1967 to Apr. 1968. was Col. Coleman a small older guy
      around age 50 to 60. If so he was in my bunker during TET 1968.

      • Thank you for your reply. However, my Dad was 6′-1″ tall and and 44 years old. I believe he arrived in Vietnam after you had left. Bill Coleman

    • Chuck Billeaud

      My First contact With Col Coleman on April 8th 1968 was a firm Butt Chewing. I was a newbi, we were suddenly attacked, I headed to the closest bunker which happened to be the Command Bunker. I didn’t know that at the time but found out real fast. Col. Coleman chewed me out wanting to know why I was at his Command Bunker and too get my Butt (he said a lot of curse words) to my bunker fast. After when ever we met he was a nice guy.

      • I remember Sgt. Arnold Apple. I have a picture of him still yet. The MARS station and commo area underneath the The tower and the one Sp/4 I remembered was from west Texas. That was in ’67 – ’68.

        Sent from Samsung tablet

      • The team surgeon’s last name was Bagwell, He was from Fort Worth, TX, as I remember. He arrived in country about October 68. I left country in late March 68.

      • Capt. Bagwell was my superior for the time I was with team 87 ( Nov. 1968 to Nov. 1969). Also Maj. Perkins was his superior.. Also at that time there was a E7 or 8 sgt. Holdich. A E6 Crumbley and E6 Reyes. Several other E5 or lower besides myself.Capt. Bagwell left in Late 68 and replaced by Capt Stanhope, A young and very green doctor.

        • (at the time) Frank Blackman., Now Mahendra. I was with the 135 AHC in Blackhorse Royal Australian Navy says:

          Hi, Dr Snyder was in charge of the unit I was with, but I left Vietnam October 1968

  15. Wife of deceased SSG Charles (Charlie/Chuck/Super P.) Joseph. Prusik seeking any stories or leads or information about his service in Team 44. This would have been approximately 1969. According to the notes I found he was also in: MACV Delta; MATT Adv Team #55 at Rach Gia; then Military Advisory Team #87. During 1969 he told me he was a “STRAK Man” in 1969 (and taught quick fire with rifles), which I cannot locate on any abbreviation site. In 1970 he was on “recon” but did not get to tell me where, but that was when he was serving his second term 1970/1971 at Rach Gia again. I believe it was during this time that they were in Cambodia under heavy fire by a machine gun nest and lost many man until he lost it stepped out into the machine gunner’s range of fire and blasted them away. The Reg Forces/Rough Puffs called him “Crazy White Man from then on. If it helps he was also at Tet Offensive 2/19/68. There are some fuzzy areas between 1961-1966 I am trying to piece together. Any help appreciated. Thanks!

  16. thank you men for your imput I messed up on the patch it was the lighting bolt crossed with the blooiy hachet he also was in that when they were ambushed my dad and sgt Dalton were on hwy one . with the 2nd batt 43rd inf reg of the 18th in 1968 at about 1230 hrs do any of you men remember that action

  17. does any one remember a unit patch with the bloody hatchet on the left breast pocket or a sfc Runion he was my dad. just wondering? he was there from 1966 -1969 as a advisor.

    • I HAVE A JACKET WITH THAT DECAL. IT SAYS “SAT CONG”. KILL COMMUNIST. I WAS WITH THIS UNIT MAY ’69 TO DEC ’70. IT WAS THE 1ST BATTALION-43RD REGIMENT OF THE 18TH ARVN DIVISION. HQ WAS IN XUAN LOC , THIRD REGIONAL CORP. I DID NOT MEET YOU DAD..HOPE THIS IS HELPFUL. DAIUY HALL

      • thank you for your reply he did not want to talk much about the ambush or the search & destroy missions

  18. I spent time in that bunker, but never on top. I was the G4 advisor Dec 70 til Jun 71, then one of the ARTY Advisors. I have an aerial pic of the Fire Base. There was an old SF Site just South of it. We had ARVN ARTY there.

  19. Hi Walt. Seems we were there at the same time. I was there from about November 1965 til april 66. I was a radio teletype operator. They built the cinder bhlock commo center when I was there. Also Martha Raye came and entertained while I was there. Never left the compound much except to catch a ride to saigon every once in awhile. Let me know when and what you were there for. I was TDY from 232 nd signal co. Macv.
    Doug Sichler

    • I was assigned to Advisory Team 87 in Xuan Loc in October 1966. I was a Rdo Opr. I was there for approximately 3 months. I don’t remember anyone there except for a Major(can’t recall his name), FAC Pilot, that I rode along with (O1E Birddog) doing aerial recons and marking targets with ‘WP’ for air strikes and doing BDA’s after the airstrikes….HOWEVER, I do remember seeing Martha Raye In the Mess Hall at Xuan Loc . Before I found out who she was, the first words out of my mouth were, ‘WTF’! I was wondering who was this Woman, dressed in Jungle Fatigues, wearing a Green Beret with 5th SFG Flash. I think she was even wearing the ‘Special Forces Tab’. Not to be insulting, but, she appeared to me to have a ‘battle weary face’. I was reassigned to Advisory Team 95, “Train Compound” at Long Binh. I don’t remember anyone from there either, But, I do remember Jayne Mansfield’s Visit to the Compound. Unfortunately, she was killed in a car accident about 30 days after leaving Train Compound…

      • Hi Ben,
        I was at Xuan Loc Team 87 from Sept 65 til April 15, 1966. I was 39th SIG Btn, MACV attach to Team 87. I was a radio teletype operator at the Team Base. Sorry to say I don’t remember any names either. I went up in FAC small plane also for a couple rides. Very seldom went to town, Xuan Loc. Mostly took a chopper ride to Saigon on time off. Seems like yesterday. Was 51 years ago for me.

        • I was at Xuan Loc 65-66. Army aviation platoon. Aloft. There were two Higgins – a Captain (Infantry) and a Medic.

          • I was at Xuan Loc June 65-September
            I remember Major Tarno and Col Ridenbaugh

            We lived in a chicken coop type hut.
            The Col expanded the perimeter and got wooden hooch with canvas tent covering and parachute ceiling.

            I had some great photos from the Tower and movies too.

  20. Won’t be attending the reunion. I do have a few pictures (non-combat) of Xuan Loc, Tay Ninh, and Nui Ba Din I would be happy to send to you for your reunion. If Williamson and Haylett read this, if you want the Picts. email me at davidpasco@att.net also with a mailing address.

  21. I was there in late 65 till april 66. I was a radioteletype operator. I help build the como center. Back then it was an outpost mostly Special Forces. I was MACV tdy to there. Doug Sichler
    I remember once we got mortared and the commander went on the loudspeaker and told evryone to get to the right hole and turn that Damn siren off!

  22. I was a radio operator @ MACV compound 7/67 to 7/68. I was usually on the horn during Tet and remember Apple as well as Aloft 34 ( Pappy ). Had a friend in Ham Tan named John Fritz who served the same time period, anyone know his whereabouts today? Also Don Keogh ( Philadelphia ) and Doug Souza ( Boston area ).

    • Do you remember Don Cholish from the 11th ACR who was liason with TM 87 in 67….He was from Newark NJ……..I was in the Security Plt. and ran into him there….we went to high school together and we’re dumbfounded as we met near the radio room

    • Jim
      I was there May 67 to May 68. Was the signal officer with the comcen next to the radio room at the base of the big tower. Got a fewe rides in the back seat with Pappy, Aloft 34.

      Do you remember the Doc that got assigned to the compound ? I think it was after TET. He was a Black guy, and a great help to us all.

      Dick Wolfe

      • I remember Doc very well. I think his last name was Williams. I have a picture of a group of the guys. I will have to try and post it here. also have their names.

      • Hey Dick! I was there with you!! Bo Beauchemin, worked in comcenter. The doctor was Snyder and the medic was Turner. Shortly after you rotated I was sent to Ham Tan to run that site.

    • Jim – my name is Gail and I am Doug Souza’s cousin. I am sorry to tell you that Doug passed away Feb 6, 2006. Medically, it was from a heart attack but many of us believe it was from a broken heart. His wife died unexpectedly 16 months earlier and he never was the same. I hope it is all right to post this response but I was searching for information for my family tree and found this site when looking for information on Doug’s service in Vietnam. When I saw your post I wanted to let you know. Thank you all for your service, Respectfully, Gail

  23. I was in Macv tdy to xuan loc in 1965 and 1966. Left in April 66. I was a radio teletype operator there. Tdy from 39th Signal Batalion Hdqtrs at Vung Tau. Helped build the cinder block como center. At the time I was there mostly there were big tent cover with wood sides and floors. The bar and movie stage were built while I was there also. army Spc 4th class Doug Sichler. Wish i had some pics. Lost all mine during baggage transfer to CONUS.

    • Was the Deca tower up back then? Col. Chuck Ridenbaugh was the Senior Advisor.
      Major Tarno was there too. I was there in June 65 when the wire was 6 feet from the chicken coop barrack s. Col Ridenbaugh enlarged the compound to have wooden framed tents.
      Long ago and far away .

        • Chuck

          I worked the Switchboard from April to May 68, then I worked as a Lineman with the Comm Unit. Layed a lot of WD1 on “A” frames through a lot of razor grass. Also worked Telephone Repair. I loved those concrete Poles, they were easy to climb.

      • Yes the tower was there. When I got there they wooden framed tent over the top barracks. We built the bar and the stage there. Martha Raye came there when I was there.

      • Yes the tower was up. Exactly where was that camp/ Xuan Loc, Gia Ray? I arrived by chopper and left by chopper. Never drove by vehicle. Always thought it was a MACV camp at xuan loc. Anyways nice to hear from someone who was at the same place and the same time. I was there about june 65 to april 66.

      • Was there 65-66. Ridenbaugh was Senior Advisor, LTC Millington was Deputy Senior Advisor. Medic was MSG Higgins and there was an advisor. Rumor was that Ridenbaugh, Higgens and Higgens elisted together years before. I DEROSed same day as Ridenbaugh. Was with 74th Aviation Company (Aloft 30/36).

        10th Division Cof S was a Colonel Nimh. One of my jobs was to advise Col Ridenbaugh whenever Nimh requested a flight to Saigon because we would get mortared that night.

        Walt Chrobak

        • I got there June 65 as Security Guard. We lived in the chicken coop next to the wire. The Col made changes with tents with wooden floors. Decca tower was up and I got some great photos from there. Gia Ray was the thorn. There was a 6’7″ sergeant there. We used to have bbq cookouts near the patio. There was a construction project not far away for office HQ . Chuck lost both legs when I saw him at Benning later on. I transferred to Ba Ria. Not so much mud there. Strange story: as I arrived I saw a guy from Oshkosh WI at Decca that I knew since I bought a motorcycle from his father .

          Long ago and far away . John DeLeon from MACV HQ Had a room in a hotel in Saigon, I used to crash there when at HQ. He saved my bacon but lost track of him.

          Welcome home A.J.

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  24. I’m Suoi as an interpreter for US adviser team 87 locate in Xuan Loc from 1969 to 1971 , I’m assigned to 52 rd regiment infantry and interpreter for 52 rd I & R company locate at Phuong Vi hill , I was award US bronze star with V device and US commendation medal , now I ‘ m living in Dong Nai province my address is 1/57 KP 5 P. Tan Phong Bien Hoa Dong Nai , I want contac with US advisor who was in there on Viet Nam war

    • I was with the 1/52 during that time. I remember the adviser to the I and R company but cant think of his name. Glad to see you survived

      • Dear Mr Bob Morse ! Thanks for your information about adviser of I & R company , I remember 1/52 rd battalion is cast Danh ( RVN ) and sgt Danh is interpreter and LtC Boon is adviser and LtC Thinh is regiment commander , Lt Keith is adviser of 52 rd I & R company and I’m is interpreter for Thiet , well ! How about your family and are your fine , what is state you are living , I’m very glad to see you, over 40 years I haven’t chance to speak English , so good luck to your family and happy new year

    • Yes it was Lt Keith. And LTC Boone was the adviser after LTC Davis. We are all fine here and New years wishes to you and your family as well.

      • Bob Morse,, When were you with the 52nd? Were you at Blackhorse or somewhere else? I interacted with the 52nd periodically, but primarily with the Arty Battalion. One time in September 1971, I was the temporary SA for a couple days. Can not remember names of a Captain and Sergeant I worked with at the Regimental HQ at Blackhorse those days.

      • Bob, I found your earlier post and now know you left in April 70 before I arrived. So disregard my previous questions.

        Joe

      • Dear Mr.Bob Morse
        How do you do?
        I always remember in operation with adviser in 52nd rigement when I was there. Almost, I worked with LT. Keith, LT. John, capt. Green, SGT. Lee and SSGT Bang who are interpreter for LTC. David and LTC. Boone, and now SSGT Bang is living in Hochiminh city, we are continueing to contact with American advisers, who was living in Giaray, was during Vietnam war

    • I am trying to place you. Are you sure you have your dates right? When I came to 4/48 in late June of 1968 there was a Captain who was Senior Battalion Advisor, who had been with 4/48 during Tet 1968 and left the Battalion about the 3rd week of July. Are you he? Give me a call at 818 591-7767. I don’t like to utilize so public a space as the internet Mark Scully

  25. Bo

    A voice from the past. What a great team we had at Xuan Loc. I went back there in 70, as a pilot, flew into the airstrip. What a change at the compound. They even had a PX, and TCC-1 telephone central with Vietnamese girl phone operators.
    Between the active Army and National Guard I ended up with 34 years service. Really miss it.
    Dick Wolfe

    • I was tickled to death to see your post! I can’t imagine the compound being that improved! I was sent to Ham Tam to run that site with Team 48 – great bunch of guys. I ended up on recruiting duty for three years then switched to Combat Engineers. Served a total of 23 years active. Living in Jennings Florida just south of the Ga line on I 75. Living the dream!!

  26. Ray

    Don’t remember the operations. Most of my time spent with commo on the MACV 87 compund, up on Signal Mountain, and down at Ham Tan. Remember a few Aussie Arty guys from my 2nd tour, they were down between Long Binh and Vung Tau.
    Last year we visited with one of the Signal Officers I met on our trip to Australia. He lives in Melbourne.
    Cheers
    R. Wolfe

    • R. Wolfe: Remember me – Bo Beauchemin? I stayed at Xuan Loc for a while then they sent me to be site4 commander at Ham Tan to restore commo! Great to see your still kicking!

  27. Hi Richard Wolfe
    My name is Ray Godfrey . I was an Australian navy pilot who flew with the 135AHC out of Camp Blackhorse 1968.
    I am currently assisting in the writing a history on the 135th and the navy contingent.
    We conducted a number of operations with the Mike Force & 18th ARVN at Xuan Loc and wonder if you have any recollections of our operating with your unit?
    We had a navy liaison officer attached with Mike Force named David “Foxy” Cronin. Worked with Maj Jeff Barker and Maj Putnam.
    Any info from yourself of anyone who worked with the EMU’s would be appreciated and acknowledged.
    Thanks Ray Godfrey

  28. Thanks for the reply on “Pappy”. I was the sig plt leader from May 67 to May 68. Went through Tet. Got stuck with the guys up on the mountain relay site for a few days.
    Will remember Xuan Loc and the great bunch of guys forever.
    R. Wolfe

  29. Hi Richard Wolfe. There wasnt a reply link to your comment so I hope you see this. Pappy was an interesting guy. After I got back I was at Ft Jackson and he and Miss Dolly came by to visit. Interesting evening.

    • Robert

      I owe my Military career to Pappy. He got me into flight school. Bird Dogs, and then the Mowhawk, which I flew from 1969 until 1991. Total sevice 34 years.(including National Guard)
      I am not on FB or twitter

      R. Wolfe

      • I too flew a few times with Pappy [call sign Aloft 34 if i recall correctly] ]to see how the Army did it as I was the spook [call sign Kenny Zero One Alpha] with the Air Force FAC team that supported the 18th ARVN from July 67-Sep 69

        • Chuck

          Dennis, you were with the AF FAC when I was there. I was with the Comm Unit worked on the Telephones. I got to know most of you AF Guys. I don’t remember all the names, but one of you set me up with a Observation Flight when one of our ARVN Units was attacked by Charlie. I sure was glad that person gave me a couple of Barf Bags ha… I actually got out the Army in 71 and went into the AF spent 21 years in it Thanks to you AF guys.

  30. Right on Phil!! I had some good Vietnamese military friends that were as brave and courageous as the next guy. Because of US political decisions we did not stand behind our word and let them loose. With our support, Xuan Loc would have never happened. They ran out of ammo.
    I miss them all. I just hope they were able to withstand the end. I know some relocated to the US.

  31. Just chatting on here has brought a lot of stuff back. I need to look at some maps. I went to a Vietnamese New Years Party in 72. Still had the invitation until our fire in 2010. Lost a lot of pictures and paperwork from back then. My ration card, Staff Sgt promotion list. Travel pass for all over signed by LTC Patton, Cards from President Thieu and others. Souvenir weapons paperwork. I actually didn’t believe we would abandon them and was heart broken. All I only blame our government.

  32. Phil,

    That’s my problem also. Didn’t take enough pictures along the way. I have a good memory and every once in awhile, a name pops up. I quickly write it down. lol

    Reason I asked about those Advisers to the 52nd. During that Presidential Election (September 71), I was taken to Blackhorse by the Colonel and Vietnamese General and dropped off at the Team House. I was met by an Infantry Captain that asked me how we were going to set up the defense for the night. I said, why do you ask? He said, didn’t they tell you, You are in charge. I said What, why? He said the Colonel and General were taking the LTC out of the bunker where he had been for a few days and sending him Stateside. What a jolt! Then he, the sergeant and I helped set up the defense for the night with the Regimental Commander and his Artillery. That evening we were able to reject a strong VC probe that began about midnight and lasted until about 3 am. I am racking my brain for their names. I do remember that a few days later, LTC Ginger came from the forward area at Tay Ninh and I was able to resume my Artillery duties. I rotated in December and in late March the 52nd became a Task Force and was sent to Loch Ninh/ An Loc for an operation involving the 5th and 18th Divisions. LTC Ginger was the TF SA with Captain Zumwalt and SFC Winland. They ended up in an awful battle and all three were wounded and evacuated.

    • Sir, I am former CPT Zumwalt. Your assessment of the fight is correct. I was hit in the face on 7 April by a chunk from a B40. After 2 failed MEDEVACS, TF52 moved south to An Loc, but we were ordered to remain in place until a rescue could be organized. That did not occur until the morning of the of the 8th. That was a long, long night! We were evacuated on an Air Cav loach. Counting the two crew, there were 5 US and 4 ARVNs on board. SFC Winland was shot when we flew over the trees. He was only wounded because the receiver housing group of his M16 deftlected the round from his head to down his right hand and arm.

      FYI. LTC Ginger directed me after we returned to the states to find the III Corps After Action Report which I did. I have a personal copy of most of it and I sent the entire report to the Infantry School.

      vr

      Marv Zumwal.

  33. Can’t say I do Sir. So long ago. My first SA was LTC Ferguson I think. He was replaced early 72 by LTC Patton, David, nephew of General Patton. His cousin, George JR was 11th ACR. Heard he was imitating Senior. LOL. Lot of us were with so many units they run together, Wish I kept better info but didn’t think 50 years ahead. I retired from the Border Patrol and now regret I didn’t take more pictures of the “Old Patrol”. There were 1700 of us in the whole country back then and we were para military. I worked from Miami to Texas to Chula vista, CA then Port Angeles, WA to Alaska and the Bering Sea. Now There are 30000 or more. I was going to work overseas when I quit that but my 9 year old said I was done going away and thru my paperwork out the window.

  34. Phil, the roads we took, wow!! In 67 we helped equip the Americal and sent some personnel. Most of the Division came from in-country assets. Started as Task Force Oregon with 3/25ID, 1/101ID and 196th Lt Inf. I remember we were excess about 100 people that filled in some of the support elements. The Army was sending replacements to Vietnam based on Korean war KIA/WIA data. Our KIA and WIA rates were much lower. That’s why I ended there as excess in 1966.
    In September 71, I was taken to Blackhorse and worked with the 52nd during the Vietnamese Presidential Election. The Colonel had just relieved the Regimental Adviser. I can’t remember the Captain and Sergeant’s names. I know that LTC Ginger was the SA to that Regiment when I left in December. Did you know any of them?

  35. the 25th set up a Defense Language school in Hawaii. Total Immersion but I got thru it and had an extension on my MOS. Got to work with Kit Carson Scouts with the line units. Never got back to my original MOS (112-11C) With the 101st I was just a squad leader and when I got out of the hospital I went back with orders to MACV but at Cam Rahn Bay they said Infantry NCO and sent me to the 23rd. Finallt got to MACV in 71,

  36. Phil, My first tour was in December 66, straight from a 155 mm Battery command in Germany. I was scheduled to replace a Field Artillery Captain that was killed, but none happened, so they sent me to the Air Defense Group where I was an Assistant S4 and later the S4 at the Battalion in Long Bien. We did Civic Action duty in Bien Hoc Province, Nhon Trach District. I was destined for 3 Corps. I had Advisory Training and Vietnamese school at Fort Bragg and Fort Bliss then upon arrival assigned to Team 87 at Xuan Loc.

  37. I came in country on the Troop ship Walker in April of 66 with HHC 4th Battalion 9th Infantry Regiment 25th Infantry Cu Chi. Who’d guess I’d leave my final tour down the road 6 years later.

  38. I was in Xuan Loc in 1965-66. I was a radio teletype operator TDY from 39th Signal Bat. I remember we built a block building for the como center. It was before the 25th inf moved to xuan loc and the sh8t hit the fan!

  39. I get my dates and time and people confused now. So long ago. It is good to hear so much on here. Brings back memories. We were young and foolish. I think I got my years goofed up. I was there 71-72 left April or so. Ran around scrounging with my driver. Still had a pass allowing me to travel all over. Lost in a fire along with the paperwork for a TT1933 pistol, Invitations to weddings and Vietnamese Parties. I was a temporary lifer 65-72 with most of it in Vietnam.

  40. Hi Doug
    Thanks for the reply but a bit before our time .
    However Have you heard of a Major Putnam who was also at Xuan Loc in 68.
    Ray

  41. Hi
    My name is Ray (Beachball) Godfrey I was an Australian Navy pilot with the 135AHC EMUs We operated with Mike/Special forces & 118 ARVN out of Xuan Loc during 68.
    Does anyone remember a Jeff Barker an ex British Army officer who led a bunch of mike force or David (Foxy) Cronin another Aust Navy Officer who was a liaison officer at Xuan Loc.
    Thanks Ray

    • Chuck

      Hi Ray, I had the honor to meet some of You Aussies while I was there during 68-69. Even had a few drinks in the EM club. Glad see your post. You could have been one of them.

  42. A question for Robert Morse. Was the Pappy Devine you refered to the WO helicopter driver that flew P-47’s in WWII and also flew missions in Korea?

    • Same guy except he flew bird dogs. Retired from the Air Force and then came back as a warrant. Flew Spitfires in the RAF in the Battle of Britain. When he joined the Army Air Corps in 1942 they sent him to flight school even though he already had 6 confirmed kills. He liked to say he was the only ace in his flight school class.

      • Hi Robert

        Pappy Devine let me fly in his back seat out of Xuan Loc. He also helped me to pass the aviator test for flight training which I did in 1969
        I was the Signal guy at Xuan Loc May 67 to May 68. I just found this site
        Dick Wolfe Lt Sig C
        I am not on Facebook

      • You guys bring back a lot of memories some good some bad. Dick Thoma, Aloft 27 took over Aloft birddog platòon after Bob Pickron left in Mar 70.

        • I remember Pickron but I cant place you. I was in the TOC at that time but left in April. I wirked night so we may never have crossed paths.

  43. Interesting reading. I was there from May 69 to April 70. Started as DSA to 1/52. In June Maj. Lewis got sick and never cam back so I took over as acting SA. Fortunately I had SFC Clark, SSG Dowling and SSG Fowler who all had prior tours. Keep this brand new 1LT out of some trouble but got me into more. Regimental SA was LTC Davis,a great guy. He was replaced by LTC Boone, an ass hole. I knew Mike Hope and Pappy Devine pretty well. Found out about Mike after I came home. Cried like a baby. What a loss.Stayed in 3 more years but got RIFD along with all the other Infantry Captains. Never went back and really dont want to.

  44. Hey Zoomie. You got that right. Xian Loc. Gia Ra, Hamtan, and the trips up to the Dong Nai, plus other LZ’s and place in the 3 Corps Tactical Zone.

  45. ‘glad U all remember so much so well. Thank you for sharing. I was a Sgt E-5 with 43rd RCAT with 1st. Lt col Ferguson and later with Lt Col David W Patton Capts Parabela ?? and Stansfield// 71/72 Transferred from 196th LIB Americal. We’re all pretty old now. I went in at 17 in 65 got out in 72. No real desire to go back. Vietnam was my home most of the time. 4/9 25th Inf. 3/4 Cav D trp Air LRRP 25th Inf 1/327 101st inf.
    3/21 196th LIB 23rd Americal.
    Glad to have worked with so many of you and life is /has been pretty good. Merry Christmas and great Holidays to you all.

  46. Sgt [E-4] Zoomie here [aka Dennis Dieckman] Intelligence Operations Specialist with USAF FAC TEAM KENNY CONTROL, call sign Kenny Zero One Alpha, July 1967-Sep 1969. Returned early 2005 and it changed my life. Am going back again TET 2018…..anybody want to join me?

  47. More research on Team 87…

    Three members of MACV Advisory Team 87 were killed in a helicopter accident in Tay Ninh Province on 01 June 1968:
    • CPT Edward A. Werman, Hensel, ND
    • SGT Dean R. Isaacs, Missoula, MT
    • PFC Andrew C. Strong, Rochester, NY

    For more details go to:

    http://www.virtualwall.org/ds/StrongAC01a.htm

  48. Just stumbled onto this site. Arrived team 87 late September 67. As a 1LT was assigned deputy senior advisor to 1/43rd ARVN and immediately kicked off on long screening operation for the 9th DIV (I think) to open Route 1 to Phan Thiet. Took over as SA in November. We got back to Xuan Loc just before Christmas. Was replaced by CPT William Bailey, and reverted back to DSA. When TET hit, all hell broke loose. I ended up manning a .50 Cal position on the south berm by the airfield with an American training NCO. Got a Spooky and broke up the attack there. Then led (advised) an ARVN rifle company to reinforce other parts of the perimeter. About 5 Feb. took over 3/52nd ARVN in Ba Ria after their advisory team got shot up. Stayed with them until late July 68. Took an R&R, then got back to 52nd Regimental compound at Gia Ra. That got overrun on 4 August and I was pretty badly wounded. 11th ACR and their Medivac’s saved my ass that night. Medivac’ed to 90th EVAC, Japan, then Walter Reed. All of my pictures, records and notes were destroyed at Gia Ra, so if anyone on this thread has memories of that time period or contacts, I would sure like to hear from you via this site or directly at wdneal@sdrnet.com.

    BTW – 2nd tour was with the 1st Cav in 70 – 71. Was CO of D/2/12th Cav and D/2/8th Cav.

  49. From 1965-66 the 18th ARVN Div was the 10th ARVN Div. Changed destgnation sometime in 1966. I was with the 87th from Aug 65 to Feb 66 when i was trfrd to Team 97 in Bein Hoa. The outdoor theater was built in early 1966. Bill Candelore

    • Bill – I was with the team during the 10 Div time frame (late 65 – early 66) Came down from Duc My as the Det SGM. I rotated home prior to the
      18th Div take over..Earned my pay as the Div Recon Platoon adviser.

  50. There was a Spec.5 if I can remember who was in common in Xian Loc. He had a big boil or lump on the back of his neck
    Thinking back about the name
    It had to be pre- 1969.

    • This was at the MACV compound across the street from the airfield. I was the Fire Chief at Blackhorse and when they closed it down (about august 69) I moved the entire fire dept to Xuan Loc and set it up on the airfield..Don’t remember the name of the SA, but I recall he was not that well liked. This was about the time that Capt. Hope was lost when his 0-1 went down just outside of town.

      • Probably Colonel Tuberty, who came over from 11th Cav. Facing a courts martial for striking his Division Surgeon in public he was forced into retirement as a 2-star in Germany. A nasty piece of work with “short man” complex. Ruined many a good officer’s career.

      • Mike Hope was killed 8 Jun 1970 at 1300 hours. His call sign was aloft 21. Great pilot and friend. God rest his sole he was within weeks of his DEROS, after 2 years at Xuan Loc. Not many like him. Maj (R) Dick Thoma, Aloft 27

        • I was RTO @ Blackhorse at the time. Took a jeep out to the crash site. Worked many times with Yourself, Captain Hope and Pappy. Captain. Hope is in my thoughts to this day.

        • I was Kenny Zero One Alpha from JUL 1967-SEP 1969 and flew with PAPPY [Aloft 34] a few times and remember him with great fondness…..he was there when i got there and there when i left….i heard rumor he too died there ????

  51. Does anyone remember sometime in late 69 early 70 when they were playing WILD BUNCH at the open air theater. The film was in 16MM and there were 3 reels. The last reel was the climatic bloody shootout. The film ended the lights came on and no one got up as it was protocol that you didn’t leave before the Senior Advisor.Well he got up from his front row chair turned to the projectionist and said “play the last reel again”. So, we all settled down to watch the fight scene again.

    • 69-70 I was with 1/327 Infantry 101st Airborne out of (shit I can’t remember where our base camp was. Maybe Evans.) Wounded outside of Fire Base Bastogne. Never saw a movie up there in six months.
      I did see crazy TV at hospital in Japan.

    • Patton commanded the 11th ACR. Never met the man. Drove past Black Horse base ~10 km south of MACV compound a few time. As I recall Patton was pretty much despised when he commanded the 11th ACR. (Google the famous “Xmas card” incident.) Same was true of his Deputy, Col Tuberty, who left the 11th to take over as Senior Adviser 18th ARVN Div. Nasty little piece of work.

      Tho’ we all called the town Xuan Loc, its real name is Gia Ray. Found that out the hard way when I went looking for Xuan Loc last year.

      • LtCol Patton with Team 87 43rd RCAT was David Patton nephew of George S. He wasn’t a bad guy. Nothing like George in the movie but there were only the five of us so it wasn’t a big command thing. We went the same places and ate the same food. This was 72 when he took over. Think I left in the spring 72

      • Two different Pattons then. George Patton IV commanded the 11th ACR in 68-69. Only knew of him by reputation. By ’72 I had been gone three years.

      • Gia Ray is built on the site of the old 1st Cav base camp at the base of Hill 837. Our Xuan Loc is about 15 Klicks to the west in Long Khank Province ( District)

      • Gia Ray was east of Chui Chan mountain which would put it 15-20 klicks east of Xuan Loc and was in Indian Country……Xuan Loc is now know as Long Khanh City and Long Khanh Province and Bien Hoa Province were merged and is now known as Dong Nai Province

        • Hi….sorry for delayed reply, but I don’t check the site as often as I should. Hope you are recovering OK from the stroke. Anyhow, for everyones’ consideration I’d much appreciate some accurate coordinates for location of the 18th American base camp. Might go back poking around again Spring 2018 (if I’m still kicking). The VN government has changed names a lot in the past 50 years, so just a place name may/not be good indicator. Thanks and best to all the old 18th hands. Bill

  52. I lived down the road from the Team compound with 43rd RCAT near the officers (Viet) club. If I ever make it back I’m sure I couldn’t even recognize anything. Didn’t get to the compound much except when they showed Patton. Our LTC was David Patton and he insisted we drive to the compound to see it. My memories after all these years are few.

    • Rod….Little before my time. Last year I had my driver go up the big hill where I believe all the signal equipment was sited. On way back down stopped at a small mil post to see if anyone could point way to the old MACV compound. Yikes! Got on the post, but w/in 5 minutes the political officer — white shirt and black trousers — showed up and threw me out. Driver paled to the color of a sheet.

        • Hi Don….sorry for the extremely late reply. I can’t be of much help since I didn’t have more than minimal contact with the 11th.

    • Rod – Do you remember a Sgt Ken Mason who was in Xuan Loc at that time. He had a large birth mark on his face and ran the PX?

  53. I took a car out last year past Bien Hoa….super 6-lane h’way w/toll booths and modern rest stops, Not to be believed. Town itself was unreconizable. My driver got the shakes when we ran into local security types a couple of times, so had to skedaddle.

    • There was nothing left of the old Xuan Loc after the “Battle of Xuan Loc”, the last organized battle of the war. Two week of bombing by both sides left it a pile of burning rubble. If you haven’t already, google the battle and view the videos.
      I have gone to gogle earth to view the tops of the signal hills where I spent a total of 8 months of my life and found them to be scrubbed clean of any reminders of the war.
      The girl that cuts my hair these days, born in Cu Chi in ’72, tells me that her mother will travel to the top of Nui Ba Nihn each year which is now a resort out side of Tay Ninh.

      • Thanks Ed….I’ve pretty much sifted thru all the material re the Battle for XL. Yep, it was total destruction, but thought I might at least see what was built to replace where camp was. Only thing I recognized in town were the railroad tracks that ran thru town.

  54. Hi Chief – all’s well with me. Hope same for you. Thanks for asking. Looking forward to having a second try at finding the old Xuan Loc camp next month.

  55. Was with AT#87, 68-69, senior advisor to 4/48th for most of the time. Heading back to VN on 17 March 2014, with intention to visit Xuan Loc and former Bn base at Nhon Trach (on the river about 10km SE of Saigon). Tried to do that last year, but stubbed my toe with security in Xuan Loc and had to make a “strategic withdrawal.” Little more savvy now so might get past the gate keepers.

    Am still in contact with Dave White (LTG Ret), who was 18th Division Signal Offcer; and with Lt Mark Scully my #2 in 4/48th.

    • Hello Bill,Iwas Capt David Whites NCO signal advisor for a few months before he rotated.Great officer and just a good guy. I would like to get in touch with him if you could help.Thanx,SSG John Fechner,MACV TM 87, 69 and 70.EMAIL: jefechner@comcast.net

  56. I was a RTO with 39th Sig. attached to 87th MACV at Xuan Loc from April 67 through TET until end of March 68. Still have thoughts of the camp and all that went on. Getting harder to remember names, but do remember LT. Wolfe, & Capt. Sholley. Ring any bells?

    • Dan, I was TDY to team 87 from 39th Sig Bat. in late 65 till aprill 1966. I was a radio teletype operator.

    • I WAS THERE OCT. 69 TO SEPT 70 WITH 18 ARVN DIV..ME N CPT. RHOURN GOT HIT ON DEC. 19 1969 SSG. ALCARAZ RETIRED 1SG

  57. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all. Xuan Loc and all the other places are so far away. Not just in distance but in time. Lots of memories I thought would last forever have faded but lots remain. God Bless you all.

  58. I arrived in Xuan Loc in Feb. ’70 and was assigned to the 5th ARVN Cav. Went to Cambodia with the Cav and was sent to Tay Ninh Base Camp, that had just been turned over to the ARVN, when all Americans were ordered out of Cambodia, where we set up a forward team base while our ARVN remained in Cambodia. After several months in Tay Ninh I was brought back to Xuan Loc and assigned to “The Hill” hill 837 radio relay site, 15 clicks east of Xuan Loc, where I spent the next 6 months. When I had about 2 months left in country I was sent back to Tay Ninh province to set up a forward relay site on Nui Ba Din ( Black Virgin Mountain) until my tour was up in May ’71. Thank you for creating this site.

      • Wish I was better with names for the guys outside of the cav. I spent 12 hours a day down on the chopper pad in Tay Ninh basecamp before being sent to “The Hill” outside Xuan Loc. I only remember the “Capt” in com there.

      • I remember an E-5 in Tay Ninh who brought his wife and child to live near him in town. This was his second tour. He also showed me a very nice place near our Siagon headquarters where a guys could get a drink, black market steak and relax. Sound familar?

        • Ed Haylett

          I was at Tay Ninh, TM 87, from 10/70 until 9/71 as G-2 Staff Officer. SA was Col. Robert Steele, and my superior was Maj. Skip Wolf. Would the name of the E5 who had a wife and child be Dean Issacs or Andrew Strong?

          • I wish that I could say with certainty, but Dean’s name rings a bell. Dark hair, maybe glasses. He took me out to a small house on the outskirts of town for a visit with the wife and baby.

          • David Pasco,
            I was the G4 advisor from January til June 71, The G4 was LTC Xuan. He drove back and forth to Saigon where his family was. Since I my branch was Artillery, I went with COL Steele when he visited War Zone D. Seems a lot of our Artillery was dispersed to those old fire bases along the Cambodia border. My last 6 months was spent as an Arty advisor to the arty with the 48th and 52d Regs. Alternated Tay Ninh and Xuan Loc every other month with Major Whiteside.Doesn’t anyone remember the 5th Cav SA? He was at Tay Ninh with the rest of us. The new SA was Col Plummer and he used all combat branch officers as Infantry on operations with the 48th. I was fortunate to have a former SF Sergeant with me on each operation. Also remember meeting Major Wolf many times.

            • I want to test your memory. First off, I came home on emergency leave (family illness) late Aug. 71 and didn’t return. Sometime earlier a NVA Maj.(?) was captured near the fire support base between Tay Ninh and Krek. He was taken straight to Saigon for interrogation. I never heard the intell. results. When back home (late Sept. early Oct.?) read an article in the Indpls. newspaper that Tay Ninh West had been hit. I had a phone number of Capt. Camancho(sp.) I called him later when I knew he would be back in the States and said the Team were all hunkered down in the Field Grade bunker and that the ARVN repulsed it. Maj. Wolf had returned to the States a couple of months earlier and my new superior officer was a Artillery Major. Do you remember his name?

              • David, Prior to the Vietnamese Presidential election, I believe either September or October 1971, The 18the and 25th switched AO’s. A Major Whiteside and I were the only Artillery Majors that I remember. We were used, one forward and one rear. I may have been in the rear. I remember flying into a fire base near the Parrots Peak (can’t remember which ARVN unit since I was with the ARTY), but never going into Chu Chi (25th ARVN HQ). I also, remember that the 25th lost all the ground in Cambodia and the NVA was headed toward Tay Ninh. The 18th formed up with the 43rd leading the way and went right back to Tay Ninh West. A few days later, I was placed with an SF Sergeant with the 48th. The 43rd lead the way followed by the 48th and went back into Cambodia and the 48th back to Trien Ngon( The old SF Base just South of the border). We had no contact at all. I was like a 20 mile hike is full combat gear. I seldom had any association with G2, only Div Arty, G3 and 48th during my last 6 months while forward. In Xuan Loc I was with the Arty and 52nd There was another Helicopter failure, but I will need to find the data on another site. I had ridden it back from that border Fire Base to the chopper pad. I grabbed my gear and went to the TOC to report in. The chopper left and went up to Nui Ba Dinh. When I arrived at the TOC the duty sergeant asked if I had just arrived at the chopper pad. I said, yes, he said that that chopper just went down. One of the RTO’s from the hill was aboard. I’ll dig up that info and send it.
                Joe

              • David:

                I’m Michael Smith, replaced Maj Judd Reynolds in March 1971 as OIC of the team advising the ARVN COMINT support detachment to the 18th Div and was at Tay Ninh West until Oct 1971. Knew Skip well and ran into him in early 1975 when he was at DIA. Can’t remember the name of his replacement (maybe Tanner or something like that) but recall he was scrambling around on top of the field grade bunker during the attack you mentioned–never could get a coherent explanation for why he was up there. NVA sappers were stopped less than 100 yards from that bunker.

      • Hey Jerry, I remember you. We first met in Oakland awaiting out flights to Nam. We ended up on the same compound in Xuan Loc., you on TM 87 and me on TM 49. I remember taking SOI’s by helicopter to fire support bases with you. And you got a telescope while in Xuan Loc, we wondered what the VC were thinking it was while we observed with it at night. Barry Smith, S2 advisor, TM 49.

        • Hey Barry I remember when you and Lance had a cookout that night I was on my back to fire support base I still have that telescope and 3 more I am very sick but still around.

    • I think I remember you Wilson……I was S/G under Big “C” ( SFC. Collick from Philly) April 67 to Feb. 68…..Was sent to Blackhorse for a couple months then to Ham Tan and back…..Bobby Clark in Jersey

  59. Just for info anyone who remembers David Patton LTC(R) TM 87, 43rd RCAT. 18th ARVN Xuan Loc.. He Passed away this year. He replaced LTC Ferguson in 72. captains were Parbeum? and Stansfield.
    Sgts. -Moar—- and Phil Adam (me)

    He3 was nephew of
    George Patton. Drug us down to Team site when movie showed. lol.

      • Phil, we bump into each other again. Arrived TM 87 12/70, left 12/71. Most of my time was forward as both the G4 Adviser and sporadically as Artillery Adviser for the first 6 months. The SA was Colonel Steele and we visited all deployed Artillery sites scattered across old War Zone D. Most of that artillery was deployed as two gun platoons. The Artillery deployed with the 43d in Cambodia and the 48th in Tay Ninh Province was deployed as Batteries. As the G4 Adviser I spent most of my time getting replacement vehicles for those lost in ambushes in Cambodia. We were reduced to two Artillery officers that Summer and were short Infantry Officers. So the two Artillery Officer split the Advisory duty for the Division 30 days forward and 30 days in XL. The new SA was Colonel Plummer and he though the Vietnamese Artillery didn’t need much advise and used the two of us as ‘Infantry’ advisers with a seasoned Infantry Sergeant. As a Field Grade I communicated easily with the Battalion and Regimental Commander and conveyed Infantry instructions from the Sergeant and coordinated Fire Support..I went with the 48th on missions into and around the Dogs Head and the area North of Tay Ninh West and the Cambodian border. When at Xuan Loc, I was usually advising the artillery around XL and Black Horse, but on time I filled in as SA to the 52nd Regiment at Blackhorse. I look back on some of the places I went to and wonder how I had the ‘guts’ to do it. Many times trips were made with just me and my driver.
        BTW: Both Steele and Plummer were great as SA.

        • Hope you are doing well and mobile. Did you sell out in Nevada? I’m getting ready to sell out in Port Angeles and move to Wellton, Arizona. Bought a one story house across the street from Coyote Links Golf Course. I can watch grass grow and not have to mow. Wish I could remember more on the days gone bye but all the notes here are good. I also wonder how we survived but wouldn’t trade the experiences for anything. I hope to travel more. Have parking and hook ups beside the house so except for getting run down with age have wheels will travel. Wife is an excellent driver. lol.

          • Great to here from you again Phil. Yes, I met a lady in 09 and we married in 10, but she could not handle the dry of Nevada and needed humidity. So, we sold out and moved to Hot Springs Village, AR. Our house looks at the 10th green of one of 8 courses here and 9 lakes. It’s a golfer and fisherman’s dream. My yard is river rock with beautiful bushes that bloom and the golf course has green grass. A beautiful view. We only travel where porcelain facilities exist, but wish we had a camper at times. I guess I spent too many days and nights in the woods, enough to last a lifetime, so camping out is not my cup of tea. Glad to hear you are still kicking. Enjoy Arizona, where is this new place? Stay in touch, enjoy communicating with you.

            Joe

            • Been to Lake of the Ozarks and like it. Born in Concordia KS. Wife was born in El Centro, CA and has family in California and Arizona. I don’t want to live in CA. Wellton is about 15 miles over the mountains from the east side of Yuma. Snow bird country. 2-3 thousand population year around 5-6 thousand in the winter. Shopping, Medical, Marine Air Station, and VA Clinic in Yuma.

              Roughing it’s not for us either. We do like to travel with our animals. Only a Chihuahua at the moment but never can tell what my wife will take in. The house is Santa Fe style with high ceilings 2200 sq feet with 2 bedrooms and 2 baths. If we get a rig it will double as another guest bedroom.

              Fifty years. Hard to believe we got to be old timers. lol. Enjoy. Life is short. Best to your Lady.

              Phil

              • Phil Adam,

                I check this site periodically to stay in touch with a few including you. Glad to here that you are to be in Arizona. A Marine friend just relocated from CA to near Prescott. One of my High School buddies. We just had our 60th reunion, so we are OLD.

                Stay safe, make all the doctor appointments and live the best you can. I’ll stay in touch.

                Joe

  60. Do you remember Smitty the co.vlerk at Xuan Loc or Sgt Apple? What about Mischaud the crew in the telex bunker.Zoomie came to visit me awhile back. With I&R I also was RTO for Col.Scarborough out if G-3. In Ham Tam with Th 48

    • Familisr name. Geoffery Mischsud s guy named Riley, LTC Scarborough, SFC Adkins and some others. There is a pic of me at G-3 TOC that Zoomie has on a web page..

  61. I was there before and during Tet 68. Servered wgith G-3 TOC and I&R G-2. Most people called me “Chief”
    Zoomie is one of my friends.

  62. I was with Team 87 from Sept. 1969 to May 1970 Spec. 4 Lemoyne Watkins. I was from WV,but I now leave in Naples,FL

    • Did you know Jackie C. Walker, 1st Lt? We were childhood friends in East Tennessee, and I would like to know more about his tour in the Nam. He was wounded and died of wounds late in 1969. Thanks

    • ED when were you in-country and with Tm#87??? I was in the security plt. at Xuan Loc and also spent time with I&R when they needed additional RTO”S……Spent about 7 or 8 weeks at Ham Tan as well…..3-67 to 3-68……….

      • I remember the MARS station, and the antenna we had on the tower. Can’t remember the name of the Warrant Officer who was in charge of all of that. At that time he seemed to be an older soldier. I was the Lt in charge of all that commo stuff from 67 to 68. I still have a card from AB8AO.

        • Bill Stoner, When I was the advisor to the Div Recon (I&R) Co we were attached quite a few times to a 11th Cav troop but I can’t remember which one, F troop rings a bell. I do remember being with a cav platoon that had two Dusters attached and we set up a firebase with a battery of 155;s, It was called FB Penny after the artillery CO a black Capt named something like Pennypacker? It was summer of 68. We had some wounded from sniper/ claymores at night they would plant and one killed from a mine they planted when we were moving out after a week or so. The arty might have been from the Cav, Had good intel about a attack so we did the mad minute thing all night. Foun 2 or 3 of them dead the next morning about 100 meters out.

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