Team 19 Quang Tri

MACV Team 19 – Quang Tri.

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  1. I found my grandfathers lighter and am hoping anyone here may have known him.

    His last name is misspelled on the lighter; it was Espey, not Epsey. He was a doctor so I presume he was some kind of medic or field doctor over there but I really don’t know.

    Any help much appreciated!

    • I gave the zippo lighter to Dr Espey on his departure from TM 19 in 1972.him and I worked together as I was the medieval assigned to TM19, as I recall he was studying TB while there. We would helicopter to other areas to the villages.SFC Charles Boulet RET E-7,Hopkins,SC 29061 ,asI recall he was from Hickory as I called him when I returned tothe states.

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      • Charles, thanks so much for your response. I was with my mom/his daughter when I read this and she relays her thanks as well. I’m not sure why the link to the photo was removed from my original post…

        He lived in Hickory, NC until he died in 2009 and practiced medicine well into his eighties. My grandmother lived there as well until she died last year. I wish I had found this message board sooner, she would have been thrilled to hear about this.

        We came across the lighter when they were clearing out my grandparents’ house. Some of my uncles/his sons still live in Hickory and they have dozens (at least) of my grandfather’s pictures that he took when he was in Vietnam. If you are interested, I could put you in touch with them via email. They would be happy to send over some digital copies and very interested in hearing more about his time there. Just let me know.

        In any case, thanks again for your response and for your service.

  2. I was a U.S. Army SFC assigned to 29th civil affairs company, II Field Force in the village of DONG HA, QUANG TRI province. We supported civil affairs refugee settlement, sharing our mission with Advisory Team #19 during the period November 1968 – November 1969.

        • I’m sorry, I was wondering if you recognized either name of myself or CPT Richardson. I am having a hard time finding anyone who was there when or after we were hit. I take it you don’t. I guess trying to find old team members.
          Guess I’ll just sign off.

          • I was the deputy district advisor for the RF/PF and the Bru tribe. I was in the compound next to the CIDG base which became the VN marines compound and some Army forces. Sgt Tibbs was are Phung Hoang guy.

            • I believe that ssg tibbs was the one I replaced at huong hoa. my memory is just not what it used to be. sir: do you remember ssg grady?

              • If that is the case where you replaced Tibbs you must have been in my compound. I don’t remember your name, but that was 45 years ago. I had a montagnard “valet” by the name of yang and I was an infantry captain. We had as pet duroc sow by the name of red. I inherited her and several chinese pigs. We ran a club in the mess hall and often played pinochle until late. If any of those things ring a bell let me know.

              • I remember when you guys got overrun. I was part of the cleanup, afterwards. Maybe it was Cpt Richardson who offered me the tank at your front gate. I think it was an M41, Gen Walker Bulldog. I turned it down because I didn’t want to order ammo for it.

              • George, In the same time period, as I remember, all of the other district outpost were overrun. Gio Linh, Hai Lang, Trieu Phong, Mai Linh . Like I said before, they tried to take Mai Loc but we caught them early on and held them in the wire. All of the fire support bases were wiped out with massive attacks and huge loss of lives. It really went south after that and I got a two week drop to deros and read about the province getting overrun in my home newspaper. Not a fun time.

      • Dave,

        I remember all three. For about 3 months I had double duty as S-l and Kilroy CO. The great Halloween flood was my last day. Don Reemen took over on 1 November. ISG Hunt DEROSED in the spring. Walt Edgar

        • Walt, I left with Hunt in early April 71. The airport was hit the night before so SGt Willis drove us to Danang in the company scout. Lots of fun. I was one of the army 11bs that replaced the Marines in Jan of ’70. Were you there when the Civil Affairs Captain was caught selling cases of C rations on the black market? Tall guy with a Vietnamese girlfriend. Dave

          • Dave, Heard about the black market guy. That happened just before I arrived June 70. I was there for the “C” day change-over. That was a 24 hour marathon–an additional duty I didn’t know I had until SFC Tutko came to bring me the welcome news. Were you the 11B guard from Illinois?

      • Dave, I remember all three also. CPT Reemen had the ugliest rooster in the world. It would crow before the sun came up and was hated by everyone. It was ugly because it only had about three feathers. It stayed alive only because he protected it and the day he left, the rooster disappeared. Chuck Asplin

        • I think the spelling of the Cpt’s name was Remen though. And the 1SG was a colorful guy. Lots of stories. He called me son because I was so young.

    • Charles, I was the phoenix advisor in dongha from june 70 to june 71. maj reitz was the last co I had, I think our medic went to camlo after I left along with reitz, within two months of deros, I was in law schoo! everyonce in a while I will come across the phoenix program referred to in a novel, it never really goes away. we are now the old vets that people say hi to at parades. highway 9, con thien alpha 1 23 and dong ha combat base, distant memories now, lucky to have got out of there , never wanted to go back! we probably met at province hq.best wishes.

      • Thanks for your wishes, same to you. It all seems so distant and far away… those days. I have lots of memories, but they are slowly disappearing. I happy to see the newer soldiers finally getting support for their sacrifice.

  3. I was at Quang Tri MACV with an Army Security Agency team using a cover designation as a Radio Research unit just before Tet 68. The month had been a busy one with an Australian General visiting the compound and VC and NVA activity increasing to the north and west. Tragically, the senior advisor of the MACV team would be killed as he led a relief force of Vietnamese Regional Forces towards a Special Forces camp which had been under attack for 2 days.
    Tino “Chui” Banuelos

  4. Chuck,

    Good for you on all counts. When I got back had a post-doc fellowship with National Archives, then spent 40 years as a history prof at University of South Carolina. Retired in 2012. Walt

  5. Nice to hear you have done well. And I yank you for your service. I retired from USAF Special Operations Command in 2010, and I have a deep respect for what the MACV did.

    The son of the navigator on Shadow 61 is hoping to locate the Aussie on the radio that night (Rivet 19), just to make a connection. If you hear of anything, please let me know.

  6. I joined the guard when I got back. Made it to O4 reverted back to enlisted to finish my twenty and retired as MSG in 95. I took an early retirement offer to pursue an invention for repairing concrete which I call Sandjacking. I’ve been doing that since 93 and received my ninth patent last fall. After 30 yrs of retirement and active duty the army advanced me to retired rank of Captain for pay, so life has been good for me.

    • Charles asplin,i am sure that you were at huong hoa when maj biddle was there. when we closed huong hoa I went to cam lo. maj reitz was at cam lo. the spring offensive, mar 72, was my last real duty. I got a 59 day drop. ft. hood tx, 502d mi, 2d ad was my next duty.

  7. Anybody have any info on “Rivet 19” who used an AC-119 Shadow during a close TIC on 24 April 69?

    The family of the AC-119 is trying to contact the ground team operator who was coordinating fires that night.

    I am a retired AH-130 Spectre pilot (1995-2005), trying to facilitate a reunion of sorts.

    • DJ, I was using my phone earlier, so I couldn’t see your post. That’s prior to my time, sorry. Used to love watching you guys work. It’s awe inspiring from a ground-pounder’s perspective. Thanks for your service. When you guys showed up everything got better immediately.

  8. Chuck,

    Yes, I do remember you as an effective advisor and one of the youngest LTs in the US Army. In addition to tracking down Dave Covington, I’ve located JP Farley, District Advisor in the west with the Montinyards. He, like I, stayed in the Reserves and ended up as 0-6s. Good to hear from you. Walt

  9. I was in country from Aug. 70-SEPTEMBER 71 FSB Barbra, BFS Nancy, and then we took over The Marine unit that got over ran at Camp JJ Carrol .Quang Tri Provence . At JJ Carrol we were 14 miles I think from the DMZ. On the 8 inch SP Howitzers and the 175mm long Tom’s
    I live in the State of Maine… Agent Orange did get me… prostate cancer plus….. Tom Mitchell

      • Has anyone returned to Viet Nam since the end of the war to the MACV team 19 area? I was with the Signal Corp unit on the south end of the compound. We had long range comms. to the rest of the country and to the US. We had the generators that gave power to the compound and to our site. Our site was high tech for the times and is still in other areas used today. I saw our antennas on a tower (round dish) on TV when the NVA were taking over. We had a small site in Dong Ha but when the Marines pulled out in 1970 it was dismantled

        • Tom

          I was at Kilroy from approx April 67 to mid Jan 68. CO B, 37th Sig Bn. Teletype/Comms Operator. At the bunker on the South East corner of the compound. Served with George Damon, John Jenkins and a few others from the same unit. I’ve been trying to find John Jenkins for years.

          • Richard. You left Kilroy before our Comm. site was built- I believe sometime in 1968. We were at the south end with a new metal building surrounded by revetment steel walls filled with dirt. There was an 80′ tower with dish antennas on top, one 3′ comm. dish to Dong Ha combat base and an 8′ dish to Phu Bai and thru them to the rest of the country. On the southwest corner was the generator station and between the 2 buildings was 3 10000 gallon fuel tanks covered in concrete and stone. Our entire comm. building was air conditioned and had flush toilets and a small kitchen. We were housed in 4 trailers that were used by the civilian contractors that built the facility, also with A/C and shower. Rough duty. I did not know the folks you spoke of. Tom

            • Thanks for that update Tom. Our bunker was adjacent to the rarely used concrete basketball court which was outside the wire. Our living conditions weren’t bad but not as good as your’s. glad you made it home safe.

    • The ground water at camp Lejeune was a cancer causing agent. I am applying for it now. My buddy, former marine, got lukemia and it was confirmed to be caused from the contaminated water, by the Lehe clinic, in Boston. He is still alive. They just released 2 billion, compensation money in march of 2017. The government hid it from us. Many cancers from it.

      • Tom,
        I was MAT I-10 team leader from June 1969-May 1970. I remember you, called you Chorba the Greek.
        I was on the Cua Viet river, then Mai Loc, then went to Quang Tri for the last month in country.

        Just found this site.

        Vince DiLodovico

        • Vince….very nice to hear from you, and happy you made it home! I retired in August 1984m then went back to work for the Army as a civilian.
          That earned me another retirement check. Afterwards, I bought a franchise business for my two boys, but the recession ate us alive and I lost a good chunck of my retirement savings. Not to fret, though, my wife went to work and stashed most of her earnings into retirement savings which made retirement possible. Howeever, I could not rest sitting at home and to this day, I am still working for the Army only as a contractor. Life goes on. I will be 78 in October. Drop a line when time permits.

          Warm regards and welcome home.

          Thomas

    • Walt, I’m not sure if you remember me, but I was with team 19 from Feb 1970 to Feb 1972. I started out at Mai Linh district and ended up at Houng Hoa. I extended for a year to make captain and became fairly good with the language. Bob Biddle was my boss at Houng Hoa. I remember David Covington.

  10. I was one of those Navy Corpsmen 69 – 70, assigned to the Vietnamese Hospital and the District Dispensaries. In my spare time I was the Bartender the Officers’ and NCO club. Had a friend Sgt. Ortiz who worked in the Phoenix Group often wondered what happened to him. If I can help anyone let me know.

    • Neal, I was there between Jan 70 and Apr 71, part of the security team. We most likely met. I do remember the corpsmen who was tall, red hair, and a big bushy beard. I just can not remember his name.

      • Dave, not me. If he had Jim Beam in his Unit 1 bag it was probably Rosenburg from GA. Lost contact with him. I had blk hair and Glasses.

    • Neal,
      I remember you. I was HQ Co of Kilroy for a spell–but probably after you left. Tour June 1970-June 1971

    • Neal,
      you must have been in the replacement team for mine. I was there 10/68-10/69. Then spent two months in Da Nang. I thought most of you guys bought the farm but glad I was wrong. When I got back to the real world I spent about a year at NAS Oceana near Norfolk, Va before I got out. I went to college, became a geologist with the fed gov’t, and had a good life so far. Two kids, wonderful wife who helped me through PTSD. We’ve been married for 44 years. She is retiring in two weeks. Was Suzie still an interpreter for you when you where there? Wonder how many of the people we knew made it through the NVA invasion and takeover.

      • Dale understand, my Wife has been great helping me with PTSD. We will have to compare notes sometime, I looked for one of our interpreters Sgt. Tao, I found one from Quang Tri in a re-education camp, don’t think he made it if was him. I did anesthesia, burns, dirty surgery and sometimes went to trieu phong. I was TAD to DaNang at Public Health for two months than NAS Norfolk.

  11. To David Birk and Others, the only name I remember is Col Birk.

    Just came across this web site. My name is John Beaven, I was assigned to MACV Team 19 in Quang Tri City from January 6, 1970 to December 18, 1970. I was there as a 2nd LT and 1st LT Engineer Officer as the Province Engineer Advisor. I replaced an Engineer officer that was killed along with his interpreter in a mine field accident while trying to count rocket impact craters.

    David, I served under your father. He was very tolerant of me as a young officer, it was a pleasure to be in his command. I would often travel with him on district visits on Sundays in the Huey.

    I clearly remember when he was promoted to full colonel.

    We had a number of wonderful Navy physicians living in the compound, they were advising and providing medical care at the Quang Tri Hospital.

    I must apologize for my memory, but I always thought Col Birk’s first name was Elmer, but of course I was not on a first name basis with the Colonel.

    I also recall that his family was in the Phillipines and he would travel there to visit them every month or so. I am not sure, but I think I remember his wife may have come to the province for a short visit, but do not quote me. You know it has been a long time.

    I also remember that he had a son that got very ill in the Phillipines and he had to go there to be with him. I do not remember if he survived the illness.

    By the way, we had the best mess hall at Team 19 in I Corps, pilots would fly in to eat in the mess hall, we almost needed an air traffic controller.

    Team 19 had very dedicated members, it was an honor to serve with them.

    I have many pictures of the compound and team members in my scrape book.

    I now live in San Antonio, Texas

    • John Beaven: Here is some personal/official info on the Engineer Officer who stepped on a mine and was killed:

      Carl Edward Gilbert
      First Lieutenant
      ADV TEAM 19, HQ, MACV ADVISORS, MACV
      Army of the United States
      Cookeville, Tennessee
      March 22, 1945 to January 06, 1970
      CARL E GILBERT is on the Wall at Panel W14, Line 4
      See the full profile or name rubbing for Carl Gilbert

      I was at the airport waiting for the Air America flight from Danang the morning of January 8, 1970. Parked along side of me in his jeep was 1LT Carl Gilbert, a friend and fellow Team 19 member. He was waiting for a passenger on that plane to take him to the Team HQ downtown Quang Tri. He told me that he was tasked with going out to do a crater analysis following a rocket attack outside of the city the night before. I was on my way to Danang to MACV Hq there. As I arrived at my destination, the officer I went to meet was on the phone taking a casualty report. The deceased was Carl Gilbert, and his Vietnamese interpreter. Seriously wounded was the District Cenior Advisor, a Major (name not recalled) who was with Gilbert on the crater analysis mission. The Major had to be extracted by helicopter due to his wounds, and the danger of the unmarked mine field that they had entered. Later I found out that it was a Sounth Vietnames unmarked mine field…go figure. When I returned to Quang Tri that same afternoon, I had to go identify the remains at the morgue at Dong Ha combat base, one of my toughest duty. I was the Team 19 Adjutant and the job came with the assignment. Within a few days, I placed a replacement request for Lt Gilbert, and you know who that turned out to be. You may or maynot remember me, but I worked in the outter office next to Col Birk. I am very glad you had a safe tour and came home unharmed. We lost 5 soldiers during my 12-month tour of duty, and I still think of them often. I know Carl had 2 small boys and a lovely youn wife at home whom he cared for very deeply.

      The Navy physicians were called a MILPHAP team. This is a surgical team whose mission was to treat the locals at the Quang Tri hospital in town…they were not there to take care of our military and civilian team members. A great bunch of guys!

      LTC Birk;s first name was Elmer, so you got that one right. Like you, I went out with the Colonel on a few occasions, mostly to help guard the helicopter while he and the Province Chief (a Vietnamese Colonel) traveled to visit out in the boonies. The most lonesome District compound qas Gia Linn, the most northern district in the province. I only visited there once, and couldn’t wait to leave. But on a happy note, there were no attacks there during my entire 1-year tour. I live (and still work as a contractor) near Fort Meade, MD. My email is knewheart@yahoo.com. I am almost 77 now, but I turned 30 during my tour in Nam.

      • Capt Chorba:

        You are so kind to post a reply to my posting.

        You are the first soul I have talked with from Team 19 since I left, except for a couple of letters.

        I am sorry, I do not remember you, but if I saw a picture I am sure I would. I remember where the adjutant’s office was in the headquarters building down town. My office was a small room off Col Birk’s kitchen where Co Dow and Ba Tu prepared his meals and kept his house.

        I remember a fairly thin man, slightly balding working in the area you talk about but I do not know if he was an NCO, Officer or Civilian. I am sure I saw you at the daily briefings.

        I have many things I would like to talk to you about. Thanks for the detail briefing about Lt Gilbert. I had done research on him and made a posting about his death on a Vietnam KIA website, not sure where it was now.

        I only remember a couple of names, Col Birk, Lt Mike Gacy (civil affairs) and one of the physicians, Lt Cmdr Dave Dennis, MD (internist).
        My seargent’s name was Eilis, I cannot remember his last name. Col Birk transferred Ellis to Da Nang as the team liason officer, He was in his second tour in Viet Nam and was sure he would not make this time; he was an older man with 2 young children. Also , our work was very dangerous, traveling to all parts of the province in a jeep with no escorts or radio, however, no more dangerous that other folk’s work.

        I believed in the adage, out of sight, out of mind, and spent most of my work hours in my jeep on the road in the province looking for road maintenance projects for the Province Engineer, visiting with the Seabees and Engineer units in the area and at the Province Engineer office. I was able to get some heavy equipment for the Province Engineer.

        I drove or flew to Da Nang weekly, as I was the civilian payroll officer and coordinated with the Pacific Architects and Engineers and other team business. I believe I was the junior office on the team, arriving as a 2LT, not making 1st LT until April 1, 1970. I do not recall any other 2nd Lts on the team.

        As you may recall, the Seabees built a beautiful bridge across the Quang Tri River adjacent to the converted one way rail road bridge. I believe the bridge was destroyed when the province fell to the NVA.

        I was released from USAR service upon returning from from Viet Nam at Oakland Terminal.

        Just wanted to touch back and thank you. I will make future contacts if that is O.K. with you. It is better to make contacts on this web site or use the private email address? My email address is john-piper@jdbeavencpa.com. You gave me yours in your reply.

        I am amazed at your knowledge and memory about the team. I am afraid I was fairly naïve about all the things that were going on in Team 19.

        Thanks, again

        John Beaven

        • John..I just re-read your posting regarding your hootch at Tm 19. For a few months of my tour, I resided in a room in the same bldg. as the guest quarters near the Tm HQ bldg. The cook would bring me my meals to my room. I can relate to your similar experience. I later moved into a compound downtown where several other team 19 members lived…it was on the river. We had some hired local guards to man the .50 cal. machine gun overlooking the river. The head of the guards was a tall Chinese man who was excellent at his job. I recall pulling guard check at a time after midnight of my choosing to go out and inspect the guards on the compound. I don’t know how this guy did it, but each time I would venture out of the hootch, he fell-in lockstep with me for the inspection. When I left at the end of my tour, I gave him an almost brand new AK-47 (no ammo) that I acquired during my tour, and could not ship home. It was my way of saying thanks for your professionalism and dedication to our team’s safety. I was lucky for 12 months as there were no instances of ground assaults/attacks against any of team 19’s compounds. There were a few mortars and/or rockets sent our way, but nothing serious.
          Tom

        • Walter – glad to meet you even though we never met physically before I left. I slightly recall the desk calendar message..guess I was ready to leave. However, a few days before I left, I came down with a serious case of the shits…..made me sick, weak and uncaring about anything other than being within close range of a toilet at all times. I reluctantly left Quang Tri, flew to Danang for 1 night stay, then on to Saigon to out process at MACV headquarters. I was sick the whole time, and paid the price for not being near a toilet at the MACV HQ. Yep, Montezuma’s revenge struck while I was walking down a hallway! I should have gotten a medal for that performance! Tell me how your tour went when you get some time. My next Army assignment sent me to Berlin, Germany.
          Tom

    • John

      I was on Team 19 from July 4, 1969 through August 4, 1970.

      I was the S2 Intel Analyst (96B) for the S2 Advisor. Also, worked the Radio from the TOC in the Cidadel and with the RF/PF’s with the S2 Advisor while out in the field. Also flew in the Air America Huey as radio man that shuttled Col. Burk around the province.

      Do you have any pictures of the TOC in the Citadel and did you know the S2 Advisor.

      • David,

        Walt Edgar,

        Arrived at Quang Tri mid-June 1970. Was really good friends with Chris Kirikos. We keptt in touch for a few years after DEROS, but nothing for the past 40 years

        • Walt

          I probably met you, I got extended a month for lack of replacements. And if you took over as the S1 Advisor from Cpt Tom Chorba. I was probably in your office every other day trying to see when my replacement was coming.

          I do not remember Chris Kirikos, did he take over as S2 Advisor.

    • John,

      Walt Edgar here,

      I took over the DOHIF funds from you at your DEROS. Dave Covington [PSYOPS] was my hooch mate. Went to Danang once to get the piasters and flight back to QTRI cancelled. The BOQ would not take the $$ in their safe. Dave was with me. I slept in a corner of the 2nd floor of BOQ and Dave had his cot in front of me. Since we had the $$ they let us keep our weapons. Incidentally, Dave is in really bad shape from all sorts of cancers

  12. During my first tour in Vietnam, I was a LCpl (MOS 0311 Infantry Rifleman) with 2d Platoon, Fox Company, 2d Battalion, 3d Marines in 1968-’69. My platoon was paired with a Regional Forces (South Vietnam) (or “Ruff Puff”) Company in the Mai Loc area from Sep 1968 through the first few months of 1969. (My squad – Bravo Squad, was detached and redesignated as Combined Action Platoon [CAP] 4-2-6 and sent to the village of Nhu Le on the Thach Hong River, c. 11 clicks SW of Quang Tri City on 19 Jan ’69. I was wounded on 27 Jan ’69 and MedEvaced back to the States, so I don’t know exactly when the elements of Fox 2/3 left Mai Loc.) I do remember that there were two compounds in the Mai Loc area: a Special Forces/CIDG compound, and the MACV compound next to a dirt air field. 2d Platoon and the “Ruff Puff” Company operated near and out of that MACV compound for the four months I served in the Mai Loc area. As a Grunt Snuffy, I did not have much contact with the Army MACV personnel in the Bunkers at MACV. In Dec ’68 and Jan ’69, the Fox Company CO, Marine Capt Cunningham, spent some time registering defensive target info around the MACV compound and air strip for the Four Deuce Mortars that were emplaced within the compound. There were also three USMC M-48 tanks aboard Mai Loc. I spent New Year’s Eve ’68-’69, lying on one of those tanks listening to Armed Forces Radio do the count down of the greatest hits of 1968. (Claudine Longet’s version of ‘Love is Blue” was #1.) When not running foot patrols, ambushes, and “killer teams” in the area around Mai Loc village, we provided security for the MACV compound, manning night time guard posts and listening posts (my LPs were always on the other side of the dirt air strip). We (Fox 2/3) and the Ruff Puffs then did a County Fair operation in the village of Mai Loc in early Jan ’69. The months at Mai Loc were a very quiet period for my platoon. We killed around a dozen or so VC during those months, and only suffered no wounded and only one KIA – LCpl Muriel “Max” Groomes was killed on the morning of 04 Nov 1968 by a command-detonated booby trap while walking along the rice paddy dikes just west of Mai Loc village.

    So there were more than just 3d MP Marines providing security for the MACV compound at Mai Loc.

    Maj (LDO) Joseph B. Burroughs, Jr. USMC (Ret)
    Loysville, PA

  13. All – My name is David Birk. My Dad was COL Larry Birk who was the Quang Tri Province Advisor I am thinking (I will confirm when I get home) for late 1969 through Late 1970…I have a footlocker of pictures from this time frame….Would like to share – just need to know how best to do that…I can set up a web site….Will be a month or so as I am away from home….

    • David – thanks fir sharing information and photos of your dad. I do have one photo of him standing by his jeep outside of the MACV Tm 19 HQ bldg. (his office and mine). Send me your email address and I will be happy to send you a copy. I am sure there are several public websites that are designed to store your photos. Let all of us know how we can access the pix after they have been posted. Your dad was a very fine officer. He was well-liked and respected by all on the team, and the Province Chief and his staff who worked with him daily. I am truly sorry to hear that he has passed. I will keep him in my thoughts and prayers.

    • David, I would be very interested in seeing Col. Birk’s pictures. I was on Advisory Team 19 at the same time. In fact I sat next to him a few times on the Air America Huey. I was the S2 Intel Analyst and on Fridays I was the radio man on the Huey that transported Col. Birk to the District Advisory Teams. My e-mail address is bmcbiker@me.com

    • David,

      This is Walt Edgar. I was the team S-1 and also Kilroy Compound Commander. I knew your father was Larry because your mother came over at least once–maybe twice. Also, your dad liked to play cribbage. I spent many an evening with him and several others playing the game in his qtrs at HQ in the city. He was a no bull-shit kind of guy. The team was a very interesting mix. Our DSO was a State Department civilian, Mr. Menendez. I was in Quang Tri from June 1970 till June 1971.

    • David, I worked for your dad when he was Project Manager, Armored Reconnaissance Scout Vehicle. My name is Jerry Hornor. I was the R&D Coordinator for the XM800T with duty station at FMC in San Jose CA – Jul 73 to Jun 74. I was in Vietnam with MACV team 9 from Jul 70 to Jun71. I have an extended family member 1LT Lawrence (Larry) G. Swarbrick who was assigned to the Team 19 Phoenix effort. He was KIA in Thur Thein Province on 13 Aug 1970. His name is recorded on the Vietnam Memorial Wall at 08W 109. Does your dad’s pictures deal with anything about the Phoenix program? Is there anyone from Team 19 who remembers Larry? I’m a retired Ordnance LTC.

      • Jerry, I knew Larry. We’d had some conversations about grad school. He intended to get a grad degree when he finished his tour. He and an NCO were with w RF/PF patrol when they were attacked–the RF/PF disappeared. Had his memorial service at Kilroy Compound. Walt Edgar

      • Jerry, I remember Larry. I was the staff duty officer the night he was killed. He was in Quang Tri province assigned as an advisor to a RF/PF company, as I recall. To be certain, let me ask you, was Larry from florida and was he in his second or third month in Viet Nam?

      • I just read Walt’s comments. I loaned Larry my camouflage jungle fatigues for his operation that night. He was with a full company of RF/PF who were attacked by a sacrificial NVA Battalion. The withering battle saw many of the RF/PF abandoning their positions and the last time I talked to Larry, it was just him, the Company Commander and a RTO. There was a E-7 medical NCO who became separated during the battle and survived, though wounded and burned. Larry was a credit to his service throughout the battle, calmly giving status updates and battling overwhelming odds. The whole battle to eradicate the Battalion took three days and, as I recall, the 400 enemy soldiers were all killed except four unaccounted for.

  14. David,
    Thanks for your reply – looking at my DD214
    It looks ( guessing) like I was there from 5 Dec
    1966 to 17 October 1967.
    I recall the mirror attacks, help crash on grave mound and one guy that died from drowning.
    His body was in a storage locker outside my hooch.
    Any names, dates anything might be a great help. There was an army medic that helped when a round heat fired and the magazine ripped through my trousers and hit far too close to the family jewls !!
    Thanks in advance for any and all help.
    Dan

    • Dan,

      The fellow who drowned was Spec 5 William Paul Rogers Jr. Date of death is 05/12/1967.

      You must have been with Team 4 when Quang Tri City was overrun in April 1967 by a reinforced NVA regiment – there was heavy fighting all around the two MACV compounds, fighting within the city, and a lot of mortar fire and destruction in the City and at the 1st Regiment headquarters south of town. The Citadel was penetrated, and the jail captured, and about 300 Communist prisoners released. I only arrived a month later, in mid May 1967, about the time that Rogers drowned, but everyone was still talking about it. The attack made the news back home, and you can find accounts in contemporary newspapers for evidence.

      There was also a fairly heavy hit and run mortar attack in September, 1967 but several others besides that one from May 1967 to October. I remember the one in September, but not the dates of the others.

      Also in late May 1967, two advisors, USMC Lt. William M. Grammar and US Army SFC Orville Frits, were captured and murdered during an operation in Trieu Phong. Your marines helped carry the bodies into the compound, and they were laid out next to the USAF radio bunker awaiting helicopter transportation to the morgue in Danang. One of the Marines who helped carry the bodies in, if I recall correctly, was named Rice. The murder of Grammar and Frits was also in the news, and I have a report of it in my files.

      On October 10, 1967 SSgt. Thomas Witherspoon was killed in an ambush. There might have been some others I am forgetting for the moment.

      If you would write to me directly at the email address I posted earlier, I have some photos I can show you of some of the Marines, and of the results of the April 1967 fighting, and I can provide a lot of other information, including the names of some people, officers and enlisted, who might be able to provide statements for you. I would be happy to write a statement covering the time that you and I overlapped as well, if you think it might help.

      Regards,

      David S.

  15. Hi,
    I was the NCOIC of the Marine security detachment at the MACV Compound and the other MACV Billet on the other side of town. I departed from that position in October 1967.

    Would love to hear from anyone that was there when we had a mortar attack and the helicopter that crashed outside the perimeter into a grave mound. I need more specific dates for the VA and my PTSD.

  16. CSM Robert L Williams I was at Quang Tri Adv TM 4 in Oct 1964. In Nov we went to Hai Lang and set up the first District ADV Team. At that time there was only about 40 advisors in all of Quang tri Providence. The Macv compond Had rooms for all of them. On the average day there were no more than about 15 soldiers at the MACV compound No Helicopters or aircraft in Quang tri providence. The guards were all Vietnamese soldiers. The District Chief in Hai Lang was ARVN CPT . A very excellent officer Who in April 1975 was killed when his helicopter crashed into the south China sea Close to Binh Son not far from Quang Nghi. AT That time he was a Major General . He was the commander of the ARVN 1st INF Division. His body was buried by some local people . I don’t remember the exact year around 2009 His remains were recovered and identifed by his ID Tags on his body. He was given a proper burial in California. The Vietnam war ended in May 1975.To you who served you did a excellent job. Thanks for your service

  17. we closed Huong Hoa. i am not sure of the exact date that we closed Huong Hoa. i moved to Cam Lo/Maj Reitz was the senior advisor at Cam Lo. SSG Paul Tatum, CPT Brown and the team medic (not sure of his name). i can remember faces but not names. the easter offensive of 1972 hit Cam Lo pretty hard. hit me with some more names. i am sure we have some in common. that was either 29 or 30 March of 72. thanks/give me a shout.

  18. Thanks, Tom .What changed your mind? He wrote in his request for for benefits for diabetes, ” I served as a MACV advisor in Quang Tri Province, RVN from May 1969 to May 1970. I was assigned to MACV units in Huong Hoa & Cam Lo District while there. Both districts had sustained heavy usage of Agent Orange. The MACV units were ‘out in the field’ with RF & PF Companies, not back in the cities or rear areas.” I only care about trying to get a clearer picture of his experience, so really appreciate you taking the time to offer your thoughts.

    • Mary, good morning. Here are my thoughts: Your brother told you he was a DIOCC advisor in the Phoenix Program with Advisory Team #19. I admit I do not know how the DIOCC was staffed or where they were physically located. I surmised that he may have been assigned to the DIOCC from this disclosure. If your brother was a NCO or a LT, he may well have been assigned to a Mobile Advisory Team who worked primarily with Popular Forces (PF) in the field in Huong Hoa and Cam Lo Districts. Or he could have been assigned to a District Advisory Team, who worked with the Regular Forces (RF) in those areas. So there are several possibilities. If he advised the DIOCC on the Phoenix Program, my guess he was in military intelligence. I don’t think this job was a mission of any District Advisor positions. .Do you have his DD Form 214? That would give you his rank and MOS, and more clues as to what he did in VN. You can be proud of his service. He stated that he served in the field in two very dangerous Districts in Quang Tri Province a few kilometers below the DMZ. FYI, the Veterans Administration lost a class-action lawsuit over disabilities claimed from Agent Orange. No vet had to justify his disability claim if later in life he/she developed Diabetes Type 2. The only document you need to support your claim is a copy of your DD 214 showing you were assigned to Vietnam. I, too, have an approved VA disability claim over Agent Orange.

      • He was a LT in Intelligence – sorry I failed to mention that before. I do have his DD214. He went in as a 2nd LT & left as a 1st LT, & then went into the Reserves & left there as a Capt. Box 23 on the DD214, titled Specialty # & Title, says 9301 Combat Intel staff Officer.

      • George,
        We probably met. I was the Huong Hoa District Phoenix Coordinator (also a 9301) From August 1970 through April 1971. I spent the night at the Cam Lo Compound when rain and flood prohibited us from driving back to our compound and visited there at least two other times.

        • dan and george, i was the phoenix advisor in dongha arrived july 1970 left i june 1971. we probably met sometime during my tour. . cpt benhart was co, then major harper, finally major reitz, who left to go to camlo..long time ago!

  19. Thank you so much, Thomas. I really appreciated it! You confirmed some of the thoughts I had after trying to research & gave me other information that was new. Mary

  20. My brother, Jim Piepenbrok (deceased) from Indiana was a MACV advisor in Quang Tri Province from May 1969-May 1970. He was a DIOCC advisor in the Phoenix program with Advisory Team #19, assigned to MACV units in Cam Lo District & Huong Hoa District. On one of his papers that I found, it says they were “out in the field” with RF & PF companies. In his belongings was also a name tag from a reunion that said 11th Engineer Bn USMC & then his name – US Army-MACV, so I don’t know if he was attached to them, or what

    Looking for someone who might have known him or could give me insight into what his experience might have been. Thanks!

    • Mary – I did not know your brother, but I did serve on Advisory Team 19 from July 69 to July 70. I can share the following information about what his experiences might have been. DIOCC – Defense Intelligence Operations Coordination Center. All military intelligence was coordinated with friendly units by the DIOCC in the area. Cam Lo and Huong Hoa were 2 of the 5 Districts in Quang Tri Province. Think of them as though they were counties in a state. Each district was headed by a Vietnamese military District Chief (military officer). Within the districts there were hamlets (small cities). RFs and PF’s: These were Regional Forces (RF) whose area of operation was within their District. Popular Forces (PF) were generally unconventional armed militia whose function was to protect the small hamlets and cities where they lived. MACV Advisory Team 19, like most other ATs, had Senior District Advisors, usually headed by a major or a captain plus one other officer. All team members received advisory training before deployment at Ft Bragg, NC (as I did). The District Team worked with the Regional Forces under the District Chief. Advisory Team 19 also had several smaller teams of advisors who worked with and supported the PF’s. Those were usually a 5-man team consisting of 2 Lieutenants, a medic, a heavy weapons specialist, and a light weapons specialist. They lived and worked in the hamlets and villages, a dangerous job I would imagine. The Phoenix Program was designed to identify and neutralize the Viet Cong (enemy) within their area of operations. I cannot be more specific, but you may find more information by Googling it. From what you described above, I think your brother was assigned to a District Advisory Team. I hope this information helps. Best wishes and my condolences. Your brother did a great service..

    • I was Phoenix Advisor ,ILT. MI, at Huong Hoa (Mai Loc) from August 70 through April 71. District Senior Advisor was Capt John Farley (replaced by Major Biddle after his tour of duty), Capt. Rios was Farley’s assistant. Other team members were Sgt. Gomez, Sgt Vollimer, Sgt Williams & Sgt Tibbs. The MAT Team members were Capt. Davis, LT. Seefeldt, Sgt. Guy, Sgt. Rice, Sgt. Stewart. There was also Civial Affair officer Lt. Visher, Sgt. Kord and Sgt. Allquist. I arrived at Mai Loc just after the attack on the Mai Loc Combat base located just across the dirt airstrip from our District Compound.-Dan Huff

  21. David

    You can e-mail me at “bmcbiker@me.com”. I have another name for you, there was a Vietnamese interpreter assigned to S2. His name was Phu Chi Duc. Not sure of the spelling. He played the guitar. He had to be around for a couple of years. You might of known of him. He lived right outside the MACV compound front gate.

  22. Ok Gents seems I have found the right place. I will be working the scanner overtime as my Dad has 8 full photo album of all the places he was during his tenor as senior advisor – By looking at these pictures he spent a lot of time out and about with the Vietnamese people. I hope you guys will find it as interesting as I do…..check back soon

  23. No, Lt Fusilier was Army, he was MI. He recommended me for the Bronze Star. I have to dig through some of my old records. And like you, a lot displaced records, because of moves and a lot of time passing. After Nam I ended up at Bragg, got an early out to go back to college, got an engineering degree and had a hell of a career as an engineer (41 years) Now retired, and have plenty of time to reflect on the past. Team 19 changed my life, made me what I am today. From a PFC to some one that is very comfortable in life.

    • Yep, serving with MACV Advisory Teams in any capacity certainly left an impression, and Team 4 (that’s what it was when I was attached to it) was certainly an experience. I made some great friends and still have them.

      The latest register I have is for 1969, but he should be in there, and I don’t find any names like that with an MI specialty. The only MI lieutenant in 1969 who was either regular army or a reserve officer with a name beginning with “Fus” is a Robert A. Fusco, but that’s not much of a match. This fellow was still a 2nd Lt. in January 1969, and of course I have no way of knowing where he was assigned. I tried alternative spellings, also. I hope he wasn’t one of those MI types who went under a nom de guerre! If like you can send me your email and I can forward the registers to you to look through.

    • For D. Curran and anyone else interested – I just purchased”Team 19 in Vietnam” by Australian Major David Millie, who served as S3 68-69. In the book he provided the names of Staff Advisors (ERA 1968-69) and I thought you may remember some of them. The S2 (Intelligence) was Major Paul Laski. The S1 (Personnel) was Captain John Pitts (I replaced John Pitts in July 1969). The TOC Supervisor was Sergeant Burdett. The S2/S3 (Air) was Lieutenant Ed Logan/Captain Porter Angel. The S4 (Logistics) was Major Bernie Meisel; Major Richard “Dick” Mottel. The S5 (Civil Affairs) was Captain Black. The RF/PF Advisor was Major Brad Oliver, and the Compound Commander was Major Robert:”Bob” Phillips. At the top were Mr Bob Brewer/LTC Harley Mooney as Province Senior Advisor; LTC Mooney/Mr. Terry McNamara; Mr. Fred Ellfers as Deputy Province Senior Advisors.

      I enjoyed the book and the trip down memory lane. There was a great amount of information about Colonel Mooney. I recommend the book…you can get one at Amazon.

      • Major Harry Bell replaced Major Millie as S3. Sometime later, date not recalled, Australian Major Connors replaced Bell. I have a photo of Connors.

      • Tom, thanks for the information, I surely knew any one that worked in the TOC. Segeant Burdett, I believe I replaced on the radio, in July 69, I believe he left in August 69. Major Laski I should have known if he had not left there by July 69. I did work for a Lieutenant, but I do not believe it was Logan That name Fusilier keeps popping up in my mind, the guy in the back row of that photo you sent me, but again it has been 45 years. I wish I had some pictures of the inside of the TOC, that would bring back some memories. On the Austrailan Major Connors. That name rings a bell. He flew a lot on the Air America Huey with Mooney or Burk. I thought he was a W/O. He was a nice guy!

  24. I was on Team 19 one month after Millie left, I am aware of his book. Now the name Harley Mooney is very familiar. I am pretty sure the Assies was a warrant officer. Just cannot remember his name. Also went on patrols with him and the RF/PF’s with Lt. Fusilier (not sure of the spelling of his name). Fusilier was the S2 Officer and I was his S2 Intel Analyst/clerk/radioman or anything else that had to get done enlisted man (MOS 96B). That is how I ended up in the Air America helicopter every Friday.

    • I might be able to figure out who the Aussie was if I can find one of my books. I moved over a year ago, but haven’t unpacked all of them yet. If the Lt. was Army, could the name have been Fusillo? I looked through the Army registers and didn’t find anyone with a name like Fusilier except for an Anthony Fusillo. He is listed as an engineer, but he could have been with combat engineers. I’ll let you know if I can find my book.

  25. I was with Team 19 from Jan 70 to Apr 71. I do remember Col Birk who was Pro Senior Adv. I was at the compound south of Quang Tri citadel. I think he was housed downtown in a separate compound. I don’t recognize the photo but that was 45 years ago. Sorry for your loss.

    Dave worsman

    • I think those dates must be right, as the senior military advisors in ’68 and 1969 were Joseph Seymoe, Marlin Thrasher and then Harley Mooney. Mooney was senior province advisor until sometime in August 1969, I believe.

      I have a photo of a Lt. Col. who looks something like Col. Birk, taken in 1968. I suppose it is not likely to be him, but I can send it if you want to give me your email address. Mine is david.sciacchitano@gmail.com

      • Mooney served as PSA until sometime in early 1970. He was replaced by LTC Elmer L. Birk. I served as the S1 Advisor for both these gents. Mooney eventually retired as a BG, and currently lives in WVA. You can google his name for more info.

  26. Anybody know Col Larry Birk – He was the Province Adviser during this time frame? He died a few years back and is buried at ANC…

      • I do not know what team he was with – when I asked my Mom she said he was the Senior Advisor for all of Quang Tri – Here is a picture of him…Let me know if it works?

        I was quite young (7 years old). We were in the Philippines at Clark while he was deployed. I will get exact dates from his paperwork next week. I know he spent most if all of his time under Abrams as he was his aide when he graduate from West Point in 1950. I grew up calling Gen Abrams Uncle and our families are still very close.

    • Name sounds familiar, we use to fly a Colonel, who was the Province Advisor and an Australian Warrant Officer to meetings through out the province on Fridays via the Air America helicopter. Do you have any pictures of him in the field (Gio Linh, Cam Lo, Dong Ha, Houng Hoa).

      • The Col. and Warrant might have been Harley Mooney and David Millie – Millie was the senior Aussie, but a major at the time, not a warrant. The other Aussies were warrants. I’m just speculating. Millie has published a book on his time with the Team: “Team 19 in Vietnam – An Australian Soldier at War”. He was with the Team from May 1968 until May 1969.

    • I do. I was his S-1 on Adv Tm 19, Quang Tri City. He replaced LTC(P) Harley F. Mooney, the Province Senior Advisor. LTC Birk was a fine officer and gentleman. I served from Jul 69 – Jul 70.

    • D Birk – I served as LTC Birk’s S-1. I have 2 photos of him that I can send to you by email. Contact me at knewheart@yahoo.com.
      Tom Chorba, CPT, USA (Ret). I also have a photo of his depurty Senior Advisor, Marcos O. Mendez, and can send that as well.

  27. Team 19 from June 69 to the end of July 70. Lived at the compound but worked out of the Citadel (S2(MI)). Worked through out the Province, published a daily MI report, went out on patrols with RF/PF’s, carried a PRC-25 on my back. Also flew in the Air America helicopter every Friday as radioman. Remember flying up to the big red flag on Highway 1 every week that I flew. Left Team 19 after 13 months (no R&R) as a SP5 and a Bronze Star. Left the service in 1971 (Early out to go back to college). Retired now after a career of 41 years in Engineering! Will always remember MACV Team 19! Made me what I am today.

  28. I was transferred to MACV Team 4 in Mar 68 from the MACV Hue TM where I was stationed in Feb,and sent to Riverview in Quang Tri City on the River. My first commander was Major Moore and then in late 68 Col Moore. A Capt Kitchen was there in early March and April and an Australian Mr Perkins. I spent my whole year in the field with the first ARVN Regiment, I was a PFC then and remember operations in Hai Lang, A Shua Valley. Left in 68 as an E-5
    I have not been able to find any information on Riverview or its team members. I always thought I was part of TM 4/19 until I started reading here. I only visited the compound mentioned here twice for a couple of hours.
    I was a Radio Operator and communicated with the 1st Cav for helicopter insertions and medivacs. My job was to pop the smoke and bring the birds in—they needed to see an American on the ground

    Does anyone have any information on Riverview? We had one marine guard

    The team members that died were Lt Wilson, Capt Gifford and Gunny Tchakirides

    • The Riverview compound was a satellite living compound for Team 4/19. When I was there (5/67 to 6/68) it housed mainly Australian team members, along with some specialized advisors. The Marine guards were from a Marine MP company headquartered at Danang, and they rotated between the two compounds. That area along the river where the compound was located also had Senior State Department, USAID and CIA employees, and contractors living in rented housing. But both compounds housed members of the same MACV Team.

      • Thanks David
        I remember one of the Australians in one of your pictures. It also makes sense what you wrote. I spent my entire year in the field, no R&R and was picked up in the jungle once and taken to Danang for a review to be promoted to SGT E-5. I never met most of the members except by radio or when i accompanied a few on missions. Time was spent down by Hai Lang and then most of year in A Shau Valley. A helicopter picked me up at the end of my tour in A Shau and dropped off my replacement. I do have some polaroid pictures I took of Riverview, Mr Perkins (his bunker collapse) and some of the Vietnamese Officers along with some weapons we captured. Let me know if you would like them for posting.
        I am amazed at the amount of information you have as I have not been able to find anything about Riverview.
        I also have a picture of one of the marine guards who cycled out about 2 or 3 months before you.

        • Hi,
          I was one of those guards at Riverview where the Ausies and Americans would shoot at the lizards inside their pub area !!! Would love to see the photo to see if it is one of my fellow Marine Security Detatchment Guys. I recall one nite rousting all the guys out of their bunks when there was incoming mortors going into the main MACV compound across town. Just trying to be safe rather then sorry, All was good and in an hour they were all back to the rack !!

          Thanks
          Dan Ballou former Sgt Dan Ballou USMC.

          • It’s a good thing they were such bad shots with the mortars and the occasional rocket. I remember one rocket attack at Ai Tu combat base that took out a brand new six hole latrine. Oh, the good times…

          • Dan,
            What time frame were you there? I have one picture of a marine from March 68. I do not remember any of the other marines as I spent most of my time in the field and had very few face to face contacts with the Riverside team members except by radio.. If you send me your email address I will send you a picture of the marine and a few I took of Riverview. I left country and Riverview in Feb 69.

            • Richard,
              I was there between 1966 & 1967.
              The dates are difficult to pinpoint as USMC record keeping were done in Danang and done poorly.
              I was there when one of the Army guys drown in the river near Riverside. There were a few mortar rounds lobbed our way but nothing too serious. We did have a chopper that the skids hit a grave mound just past the airfield outside Quang Tri that we had to secure and get the guns etc from.
              So many years ago and at a loss for the names of my guys.

              Thanks for the help.

              Dan

              aka Sgt Dan Ballou – Marine Security Detatchment Quang Tri.

              Email is : danballou@comcast.net

    • Hi Richard,

      No R&R? But Quang Tri WAS your R&R. Didn’t they tell you?

      I would love to see all of your photos. My email address is david.sciacchitano@gmail.com

      I don’t have any photos of the Riverview Compound, as I was only there a few times and never with a camera. I am sure I will recognize the Marine, as I knew all of them, so I would particularly like to see that photo.

      I was a crew chief with the small USAF Bird Dog unit attached to the Team. We worked out of La Vang, the village about a mile and a half south of the compound, at the air strip adjacent to the 1st Regiment compound. I have some photos posted on SmugMug taken at Quang Tri, but none of Riverview. I can send you the link if you like.

      Thanks,

      David

  29. My late father, USAF Lt. Col. William Taliaferro, was a navigator on an AC-119 Shadow gunship supporting Australian troops in contact in Vietnam on 24 April 1969. The Australian ground controller was “Constant Rivet 19.” I have a tape of the mission but do not know the identity of the Australian forces in combat. If anyone has any information about this firefight of 24 April 1969 or who “Constant Rivet 19” might be, please contact me.

  30. I was with Team 19 between Jan 70 to Apr 71 with the Army. While at the 90th Replacement unit MACV pulled twelve us out, all 11Bs. Our final assignment was to replace the Marine Security team at the MACV compound in Quang Tri. During my time there we had several rocket attacks and small arms harassments. However, the districts were a different story. When Ripcord happened it was expected that the NVA would try to overrun of outlaying MAT teams. Never happened, thank God.

  31. This is Francis M Delaney (aka Fran, Mike) checking in. I was a 1Lt in Team 19, stationed at Alpha-One and Charlie-Two outposts starting in May 1968. Anybody out there who was around then?

    • Capt. Bill Coviello (Mai Linh) williamrcoviello@yahoo.com; Sp5 Bill Trimbath (TOC Quang Tri) btrimbath@hotmail.com; and Australian Maj. David Millie dmillie@iinet.net.au. Millie started at Mai Linh, but spent most of his time working out of the TOC as commander of the Australian component and was all over the province, so you would have run into him. Also Harley Mooney is still alive and living in West Virginia; Terry McNamara, Deputy Province Senior Advisor is still alive, and living in McLean, Virginia. Linwood Grant USAF Bird Dog detachment commander, Capt. Pete Luitwieler (Trieu Phong) and others are still around.

      David Millie recently published a book available on Amazon that names others you might know: Team 19 in Vietnam: An Australian Soldier at War. Also check the various web pages for “MACV Team 4″, the designation prior to August, 1968 when it was renumbered Team 19.

      By the way, if you remember the names and service information on any of the team members during your tour, I would appreciate your sending that information to me: david.sciacchitano@verizon.net

  32. During the time frame 7/69 to 8/70 there were no incursions on MACV Team 19 site. There was a rocket hitting outside the perimeter & a couple mortars outside the perimeter during this time. We went on alert status numerous times but never had any incoming small arms fire, just reports of activity in the area.

    • There was motor inside the compound, I saw personnel digging out the fins. It was rockets and mortars more than a couple of times.

    • Were either of you on the MACV Team with my brother, Jim Piepenbrok, who was there May 69-May’70? He recently passed away, & I would be very interested to know more about what his job was. thanks!

  33. Thanks for your help. I can access the marine records since you’ve tolde which unit provided the guards. The Advisory Team 19 records for the Quang Tri District does not report on any MACV Compound rocket, mortar or sniper attacks, or perimeter incursions for the period 7/69 – 8/70. The Team district reports speak more to what’s happening in the district but not incidents affecting their own compound. Does that mean there weren’t any or should I be looking at another headquarters the Army would be reporting to. Again thanks for the heads up re the marines. They should report anything like what I’m looking for.

    • Mr. Bracey,

      I am sorry I never saw your note before this evening. If you look through the after action reports at the National Archives you can find records of major events. They are not in order of event, but rather order of filing. But there is an index you can skim through to find the ones specifically for Team 4/19, and since they are numbered, you can then go to the box and find the originals quickly. Also, though, you should be able to find daily logs of one sort or another that will at least list events, though rarely with much detail. These would be in the paper files for Team 4/19, and if you have already been through those, they may be missing. I was able to find some for 1968, but I can’t recall whether they extended into the time after August when the team number changed from 4 to 19. Again please accept my apologies.

      David Sciacchitano

  34. All of the Marine Security personnel providing security at primary MACV facilities in I Corps came from Delta Company, 3rd MP Bn, 3rd Marine Amphibious Force. Delta Company was headquartered in Danang, which was I Corps central. Team 4/19 generally had an NCOIC and 7 or 8 Marine security personnel augmented by 7 or 8 RF troopers. Nighttime guard was further augmented by personnel living in the two compounds located in Quang Tri City. All personnel had assigned defensive positions in case of attack. Security for MACV district and mobile advisory teams varied but was primarily the responsibility of district team personnel and the Vietnamese units they advised at the district headquarters.

  35. We were Co. B 361st sig bn., 1st Sig brigade. We had microwave comm. to Dong Ha (they were part of our group) & we transmitted thru Phu Bai to the rest of the country. The seebees ran the generators for us & a smaller generator for the MACV compound. I don’t know which unit they were with but their hdq. was in Da Nang. We were not part of team 19, just were on the MACV compound. There were 4 Seebees with us. The marines for security was a squad size group 10-12 people. I assume they were 3rd marines from the Quang Tri combat base. There was another comm. group beside us with VHF radio to field units & we got their signals & retransmitted to everywhere. Hope that may help.

  36. Thank you for your reply. I know the 3d Marine Division was in the area but I’m having trouble finding which unit of the Division was responsible for providing the guard. It might help also to know what Navy Seabee unit and army signal unit was there with Advisory Group 19.

    • Hi Michael

      I’m new to this site and I know you posted this a few years ago but this might help. I was stationed on the Kilroy compound from approx. May 1967 to mid Jan 1968. I was part of a small detachment from Company B, 37th Signal Bn, 1st Sig. Brigade. My job was as a teletype operator in the small com center at the south east corner of the compound. Not sure if that detachment was still there during the time frame you are looking at.

      • Hi,
        I was the NCOIC of the Marine Security Detatchment that provided main gate and perimeter security for the MACV compounds in Quang Tri. The main compound which was across the street from the Citidal and the river front billet across town. I was assigned there in 1966 and departed in 1967 time frame, not sure of exact date. We were under the 3rd Narine division and then under the MP batallion.
        My problem is I do not recall any of my Marines or other MACV staff.
        Not sure if any of this info helps or not.

        • By June 1970, the Marines at Kilroy had been replaced by Army EP. The main HQ downtown was guarded by Nung Chinese as was the other civilian compound in town. The Seabees built a new mess hall for Kilroy that opened Late June/early July 1970. Walt Edgar.

      • This is a response to inquiry about signal unit at team 19. At the south end of the compound a new microwave site was installed sometime in 1968 (not sure of exact time). It was staffed by about 15 Army personnel with 361st. Sig. Bn, 1st sig brigade. We also had a site in Dong Ha staffed by the same unit connected directly us. It was a state of the art site with voice, teletype, crypto and other comm. We sent microwave transmissions from Quang Tri to Phu bai which retransmitted to Danang and the rest of the country. We served all military units in the northern sector and civilian phone lines. We also had 4 Navy Sea-bees attached to us to run the generators for our equipment.and another smaller generator for the MACV area. Our barracks was 4 civilian trailers that the contractors used when the microwave site was built. There was an 80′ tower that held the antennas- a 3′ dish to Dong Ha and a 8′ dish to Phu Bai. The dong ha site was removed in late 1970 when the Marines pulled out. SP5 Tom Dean

      • Response about Signal unit on MACV Team 19. Around 1968 a new microwave site was built at the south end of the compound. We were with Co.B 361 Sig. Bn. 1st Sig. Brigade. We had 2 transmitters, a small dish connecting directly to Dong Ha .(this was removed in 1970 when the marines pulled out). The other transmitter connected to Phu Bai & thru to the rest of the country.The antennas were dish antennas mounted on an 80′ tower. We had about 15 troops manning this station along with 4 Navy Seabees that ran the generators for the site & small generator for the compound. I was there from June of ’69 to Dec of ’70. Sp 5 Tom Dean

  37. I was attached with Team 19 during your time frame. Security was by Marines. We had small attacks- nothing big. I was Army communications with Navy Seabees attached to us to provide power for the compound. Macv troops were at the front gate during the day, marines at night.

  38. Please correct the spelling to “Quang Tri”. Team 19 was originally numbered Team 4. The team numbers changed in August, 1968 – same team, different number. Team 1 became Team 16, Team 2 became Team 17, Team 3 became Team 18, Team 4 became Team 19, etc.

    • I am a researcher at the National Archives. I am trying to research attacks on the MACV Compound at Quang Tri From August 1969 to August 1970. I am having trouble locating daily journals of those responsible for the security of the compund i.e. those who would have pulled guard duty there. I am trying to help a navy vet from MILHAP-4. Under what Army unitt could I find what I’m looking for? any help would be appreciated.

      Michael G. Bracey
      2708 Middle Neck Road
      Odenton, MD 21113
      301-219-1918.

      • Per my previous response above, security was provided by elements of Marine Security Detachment, Delta Company, 3rd MP Bn, 3rd Marine Amphibious Force. Delta Company was headquartered in Danang. The 3rd MP Battalion was not a part of any division, but belonged to the USMC’s Force Logistics Command, which supported all Marine activities in I Corps. You can find monthly command chronologies online at http://www.recordsofwar.com/vietnam/usmc/USMC_Rvn.htm. You are unlikely to find reports on minor incidents, but it wouldn’t hurt to look anyway. You can find a file on MACV Team 4/19 at the Archives in Adlephi, There are some log pages in those files which contain mention of attacks and other incidents. There are also a number of boxes of after action reports from the various MACV advisory teams, and you may find one or two which contain useful information. There is an index book in the research room which will allow you to see which reports are in the files. Keep in mind that some of the MACV reports have gone missing over the years.

      • Mike – you are my neighbor…I live in Severn, and I served on Adv Tm 19 Quang Tri from Jul 69 – Jul 70. There were no direct ground attacks on Camp Kilroy that I know of, but there were sporadic/infrequent mortar or rocket attacks none of which amounted to any injuries or damage to the compound. We have to get together someday to talk. I believe we had US Marines guarding the compound. I lived in Quang Tri city in a leased house (there were other houses in the compound as well).. I served as the S1 for my tour there. Tel. no. 410-551-7741.
        Tom Chorba

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