Team 27 Binh Dinh

MACV Team 27 – Binh Dinh

This Page is intended for the discussion of the Military Assistance Command Vietnam Team 27 located in Binh Dinh.

81 thoughts on “Team 27 Binh Dinh

  1. Gentlemen,

    Thank you for your service to our country, and to the Republic of Vietnam. I am the son of a ARVN major, Major (Lt Col select) Nghi Xuan Dang. I was hoping to see if any of you gentlemen know of him or served with him during your time in the region. He told me he received a Bronze Star from the U.S. Army in rescuing a MACV team from annihilation. I hope this story helps or sparks any recognition of my grandfathers name.

    Thank you for your time.

    Tyler Dang

  2. I am trying to find anyone who may have served with my Uncle SSG Robert H Millwood. He was a medic at the time and was with Adv Tm#27 in 65 and 66 and then with Adv Tm# 42 and 46 in 69 and 70. Any help or knowledge would be greatly appreciated. He was stationed at Ft Benning and was buried there in 1971.

    • I wish I could help, but am unable to. I was with Team 27, Binh Dinh Province, from January 1967 to July 1968. I would have just missed him.

            • I was with Team 27 for 19 months – January 1967 to July 1968. His name doesn’t ring a bell. We did not have a deputy G3 position within our team. A G3 is a position with a regular division-size unit, such as the 4th Infantry Division, for example. As advisors, we did not have “G” type staff positions – they did not exist. The District Senior Advisor at Phu My during my tenure was a Major John (last name don’t remember) from Spokane, Washington, which is where I am from, so we got to know each other well.

              • Thank you for taking the time to talk to me and answer my questions. My father choose not to talk about Vietnam it wasn’t until his death that i obtained his Military service records. His Officers efficiency reports from Vietnam are where i got the information. I was trying to get a better sense of his experience there and now i can see, from reading these posts, that the experiences of others gives me a good sense of what he may have had to deal with. Thank you, again.

                • You’re welcome, John. I can appreciate the effort you’re taking to find out more about your father’s military history. I’m sure he would be proud of you. Sorry I couldn’t be more help.

  3. You and I must have known each other, Charles, as we were living in rooms only a few feet apart at the MACV compound. I knew SSG Fanning. And I knew Major Rogers extremely well. In fact, after we both DEROS’d, he made LTC and I was a 20 year old SSG assigned at Fort Lewis, and he called me from the Pentagon one day and asked me to come and work for him. I had a young family at the time and turned down his offer because I knew we couldn’t afford to live in the D.C. area.

    As far as the guy who was killed by the grease gun, I was on leave to the U.S. when that happened in Dec. 1967, and found out about it shortly after returning to Qui Nhon in January 68. I didn’t remember it being a Navy guy, although at my current age things aren’t as clear as they used to be. It happened in the room next to mine.

    It’s great hearing from you. Sounds like you’re living an adventure. I stayed in and retired after 24 years. Got a commission through the Infantry school OCS in 1972, and retired as a Major. I was coming into the zone for promotion to LTC, but decided to hang it up as I was just plain tired of all the moves.

    • Hi, back to ya, yes, we must have known each other but I was in the compound so little I hardly knew anyone. Fanning and I both rented separate apts downtown, Lt. TOM stayed in officer quarters in the big bldg. We were given about a week off inbetween RF PF training cycles lasting 3 weeks with 3 live very productive night cordon and search ops of known VC hamlets. So in that week off Fanning and I were scarce. My upstairs pad was rented from a friend, a ARVN capt who lived below with family. His daughter got a crush in me which was cumbersome. I would help kids with English at night after school for I wasn’t a bar type. Word came down that all who lived off post had to quit and come back. We complied and good we did. That was not long before Tet! In a break from the Tet NVA over run of Qui Nhon, an ARVN pickup brought several KIA civilians shot downtown and dumped them in front of the head medic NCO’s quarters/clinic room, stiff as a board. Had we been downtown we would have been in that pile of corpses.

      Good to hear of your shift to Major and retirement ..nice story. I wonder if Rogers made his star? I was told NOT to talk to him about reup by my subsector CO and friend…he knew the war was BS and ordered me to ets and go to college, I complied and regretted it ever since. I wanted WO school actually and to change my Arty mos for supply and go to Germany…after 1 more year with the team in Qui Nhon. Rogers would have given me E6.

      I don’t wanna spam the board here so if you like, cabrown3@gmail.com and eccondor on Instagram.

    • When I wasn’t bunked in my unauthorized but cozy quiet apartment downtown I roomed with Ssgt Fanning a d a black supply sergeant, around the corner where that supply sergeant had a couple/3 connexes he kept supplies in. The SF compound was immeidately on the other side of the connexes I think.

  4. MSG Walter Barrack was one of my favorite NCO’s. I knew him well. He worked in our S3 at province level in Qui Nhon. Major William Rogers was our province XO. I worked directly under him and MSG Hammond, our Admin First Sergeant.

  5. Damn, guys, this is so great. My email is cabrown3@gmail.com and eccondor on Instagram. I retired in 1995 at age 48 and moved in 1996 21 yrs ago to Cuenca, Ecuador, South America in the high (9000 ft) Andes out of civilian life as a gold smith/jeweler and high adventure outfitting mountaineering/SCUBA businesses. I worked closely in the 70s with an SF reserve unit at Ft. BENNING as mountaineering instructor…many of that group of fine guys were vets.

    I was Googleing and chanced upon this site.

    Oh, lol, there was an air force or navy EM gentleman from whom I purchased a captured M-16 in the MACV compound. I was issued an M-14 which I loved but toting it around was a bit heavy in the constant field work we did.

    I note some commentary about bad luck with the RF PF…our guys learned well and did well, regret hearing about the down side…but there was a bell curve of aptness alright.

  6. I’m writing this for Marie and Robert Hardy. Can anyone help?
    Thanks, Vic Francis Qui Nhon Oct 67 Oct 68

    Marie and Robert Hardy says:
    February 13, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    I am looking for Army Personnel that served with my husband in Qui Nhon from December 1967 to December 1968. He has really bad hearing and the VA Hospital is giving him trouble in getting hearing aids. They said we needed to locate some of his old unit to see if any of them had the same problem. Please if you or anyone served in Qui Nhon during that time period and has hearing loss and constant ringing in their ears could you please contact us either by phone (989) 277-5172 or email romarhardy67@frontier.com. We really could use some help. They are saying they have medical records that don’t show any problem. Well we have learned that the medical records from that time period were destroyed in a fire AND that the record keeping wasn’t what it should have been anyways due to the chaos over there. My husband served his country and deserves to get hearing aids provided for him. So if any one can help us by backing up the fact that there are others out there with this problem and that there was bombing or shelling constantly every night over head into the mountains it would be much appreciated.

    My husband was a PFC with Advisory Team 27 in Qui Nhon from January 1968 thru December 1968. He was a company clerk and drove the Major or Colonel around. I did find one of his comrads a Warren Malugen who lives in Missouri. He also has really bad hearing problems and constant ringing in his ears. But if I could find more it would give us the (excuse the expression) ammunition to get my husband hearing aids through the VA. So any help we can find would be appreciated. Thank you so much for getting back with me. Marie Hardy – Robert Hardy

    • I was assigned to team 27. I was in Qui noun from June 67. June 68. I got hearing aids at Asheville VA hospital

    • I was assigned to team 27. I was in Qui Nhon from June 67. June 68. I got hearing aids at Asheville VA hospital

    • If it helps, I served with Advisory Team 27 in Qui Nhon from January 1967 to July 1968. I was successful in obtaining hearing aids from the Va Medical Center in Spokane, Washington, about 4 years ago, based on my service in Vietnam and a continuous ringing in my ears. Hope this information helps.

  7. I don’t remember the c130 fire
    I left in June, around the 20th I think.
    I didn’t get along with maj Sammons
    Thankfully he left soon. I can’t remember why though. There was a West Point Captain who I liked. I don’t think he stayed too long.
    I helped build the bar in the compound
    It looked pretty nice when they charged
    The plywood
    One of the civilian got a new Int Scout
    He gave me his old yellow jeep

    • John Sammons was pretty hard-nosed, but I really respected him. There was one time when my boss – a really sarcastic Master Sergeant (won’t name him), and I got into a shouting match with each other, and I said some things to him that I shouldn’t have. He tried to get me an Article 15, but Major Sammons stood up for me and somehow managed to get this MSG to forget everything. Not sure how he did that, but I think MAJ Sammons “had something” on this sergeant.

  8. I remember SSG Kay very well. First name was Jim. Don’t recall any NCO who had reserve commission. Major John Sammons was our S3 Advisor at Province level. Captain Monty McCall was our S1 Advisor. One of our S4 Advisors, can’t remember his name, died aboard a C130 that was about to take off from Qui Nhon airport. Somehow the bird caught fire while still on runway, and I believe a lot of men died. We had two newly-assigned NCO’s – in-country transfers from another unit, an E6 and an E7 – who were ambushed and killed same day they reported to us. They were convoying out to one of the districts they were assigned to – forget which one – and convoy was ambushed. Both were killed. Happened June 68. I had just completed meeting with both of them to in-process them to Team 27 – had nice conversation, getting to know them a little. That afternoon both were dead.

  9. Originally ssgt Kay was there,
    I can’t remember the guys name
    Another man was there as a ssgt also who was an officer in the reserves

  10. I knew Major William Rogers very well. He was our Executive Officer, subordinate to LTC George Bicher who was our Province Sr. Advisor. I have a personal letter of recommendation that he wrote for me in 1968 as I was preparing to leave the Army at that time. I was surprised as I sat in the freedom bird getting ready to leave Bien Hoa air base July 1968 when the MACV Liaison NCO from Saigon brought me my promotion orders to E6. As a result I decided to re-up instead of getting out. Shortly after that, Major Rogers, who at that time had been promoted to LTC and was at the Pentagon after returning from Vietnam, tracked me down somehow and called me while I was assigned to Fort Lewis and asked me to come and work for him at the Pentagon. I politely said “no”, but it was a nice feeling that he did that. Yes, I knew him quite well.

  11. Craig
    Do you remember when the helicopter crashed into a mountainside at An khe?
    What building do you work out of?
    Did you Major Rogers?

    • Buz,

      I vaguely recall a chopper crash at An Khe. Can’t recall details. The building I worked out of was a single story building adjacent to the province headquarters building, which was 2 levels.

    • My name is Craig James – I was living in the MACV compound in Qui Nhon, and the guy (can’t remember his name) who was killed accidentally by the grease gun was killed in the room next to mine. I was on 30 day leave to the states when it happened, and didn’t find out about it until I returned from leave. I was the Admin NCO for Advisory Team 27 province HQ in Qui Nhon. I in-processed all new arrivals to the team, handled casualty reports, supervised mail operations, etc. I remember your name, Jerrol.

      • I was on my 2nd tour, billeted in the other room next to the accident. A couple navy gentlemen jnfamiliar with the peculiarities of that fire arm were playing with a captured .45 smg, aka grease gun, one got shot in the heart. The survivor was shipped out for a while to recoup mentally for it was his buddy who died. I heard the shot, someone cried out “Help me!”, I went next door immediately to see what happened, the man lay freshly dead on the floor in some blood, his heart area had a gun shot wound, too grave, died immediately, nothing I could do. A very sad accident. I knew hardly anyone in the compound, we were in the field almost constantly, a 4 man MACV team CMIT 7, we were a roving inf advisory/training team of four with two Viet counterparts, we trained RF PF in night ops and fought with them in several subsectors. Ssgt Fanning and 1st Lt. Tom Higdon both TDY from 1ST Air Cav in Anh Ke and Plieku were two of my team members. I was the MACV component, arty 13B MOS, RTO and jeep driver. CMIT stood for combined mobile improvement team assigned to get RF PF up to snuff. The idea worked great…night cordon/search ops in known VC hamlets, using the trainees live. Great results. We lived exclusively with our RF PF in their villages.

        Major Rogers was a favorite of mine. I regreted ETSing in April after TET. I really liked working under Rogers. He told me he had just devised a mobile CP using a truck van. Major Rogers was tops.
        Sgt. Charles Brown 65-68

  12. Craig
    I am in San Antonio, now fully retired. I stayed in the Army until I retired in 1980. Then I had a career as a VP for Finance & Administration for a couple of the Texas A&M Universities. I also have had an interest in going back to Vietnam but have not made it.

    • All I can say is it’s really good to be in contact with you Jose, after all these years (50 years in 2017 – wow.) I stayed in and retired in 1989 after 24 years. Obtained commission through infantry OCS at Ft Benning in 1972, and eventually retired as a major. After retirement, became an HR Manager for several different organizations in this area, and retired again from the electric utility industry in 2013. Now my wife tells me what to do. We have a mini-farm – couple of horses, chickens, fruit trees, vegetable garden, etc. Wife is a master gardener. I’m still an apprentice, step 1. She hasn’t promoted me yet.

      I’ve “Googled Earth” Qui Nhon, Vietnam, but it looks so much different today that I can’t recognize anything.

      I’m trying to remember the other team members at Binh Khe. Who was your major, and the others? I can picture the major, but can’t remember his name. Seems that you also had a MSG (maybe PSG?) first name of “Bennie” or something like that.

      Craig

      – Measure your life by loss, not by gain.

      Not by the wine drunk, but by the wine poured forth.

      For love’s strength is found in love’s sacrifice.

      And he who suffers most has most to give. (From Streams In The Desert, by L.B. Cowman)

      • It was msg Barrack I believe. He suffered an eye lid wound during a bomb run and was awarded a purple heart. He was one kick butt top kick. I arrived from medevac in japan, light duty, started building the EM club in the MACV compound, but fortunately Msg Barrack or Major Rogers put me on the CMIT team…which I liked much..that was soldiering field work exclusively.

        The only other casualty I knew was when the pay helicopter was shot down, I knew one of the pay guys but forget his name, all were killed aboard.

        During ’68 TET when Qui Nhon was over run by NVA and retaken by our RF PF and ROK troops, one of the compound guards from Maine! I forget his name, was shot in the lower abdomen while talking fo me. I was atop the watch tower at the back of the compound. He was standing in front of the Senior medic’s quarters and a stray round hit him. I clammored down the tower and attended to him, he was calm and cool, courage city. The medic showed up immediately as well. He was evac’d to Hawaii and returned with the bullet slung around his neck. The bullet missed my head by not much.

        I only was in the army from 65 to 68, first tour was in arty at Bien hoa and later Phu Loi.

  13. Craig
    It is good to hear from you. Have you heard from anyone else that was in Bing Khe at the same time. Where are you living.

    • I’m in Spokane, Washington, Jose. Good to hear from you also. No, I haven’t heard from anyone else who was at Binh Khe. I pretty well lost track of everyone after DEROS back to the U.S. in July 1968. Just recently something has stirred me about my time in Vietnam. A very close friend who was a COBRA pilot and is married to a VN gal is flying to Vietnam this week with his wife to visit her family. For some reason that has got me stirred up. I wish I could go back there for a visit and to see the place where I lived during that time. Where are you at?

      Craig

      – Measure your life by loss, not by gain.

      Not by the wine drunk, but by the wine poured forth.

      For love’s strength is found in love’s sacrifice.

      And he who suffers most has most to give. (From Streams In The Desert, by L.B. Cowman)

  14. I was with Team 27 Qui Nhon, Binh Dinh Province, from January 1967 to July 1968. I worked at province HQ as admin NCO. Initially, LTC Lindsey Rupple was our Province Sr. Advisor. Later was replaced by LTC George Bicher, who was subordinated under civilian named Chalmers Wood when the CORDS organization came into being. About half of our province HQ team became civilianized under CORDS. Believe they were CIA organization, but never heard for certain.

    • I was with team 27 from june 67 to June 68. I was a radio operator. We worked out of a little white quanset in that compound. Some of the people were up stairs in a brick Building, others worked in a building across the compound. I was in the compound the night of the TET offensive. After tTET I would go out with the VN soldiers to villages to look for VC. We would check for pay stubs, most of the time we came under fire and would call in gunships or airstrikes.
      I must have met you, but I don’t remember. We stayed at an old compound right on the south china Sea. One night there a Navy guy accidentally killed his friend with and old ww2 grease gun. I was a Buck Sgt.
      Jerrol Veldheer

      • Jerrol,

        I was living in the same compound. If I’m not mistaken I believe you were from Seattle. I was home on a 30 day “extension leave” over Christmas 1967 when the guy in the room next to mine was accidentally killed with the grease gun. I found out about it when I returned from my leave. I remember you.

      • We were night attacked by a btn of NVA in a subsector hq, a farm house in I forget the village name, about 45 minutes or an hour out of QuiNhon, right after Tet. Our trained Viet inf held em off, a Puff was called in which saved our butts. It wasn’t long after that buck sgt me ETS’d.

  15. I was with Team 27 at Province HQ in Qui Nhon from Jan 67 to Jul 68. LTC Bicher was Province Sr. Advisor. I knew Major John Drew, District Sr Advisor of Phu My District. I was Admin NCO and in-processed all new personnel assigned to Team 27. 1SG Ai Hammond was our top EM at the province HQ. My email is maj1247@q.com if anyone cares to write. – Craig James, major, USA, retired

  16. I was assigned as a district advisor from 4/67 to 11/67 at Binh Khe district in Binh Dinh province. Is there anyone else out there that was assigned to this district during this time. Hope to hear from you.

    • Hello Jose. I was not at the district level, but was at the team’s province headquarters in Qui Nhon. I was with team 27 from Jan 67 to Jul 68, so I would have met you since I met and in-processed all new personnel, plus handled and distributed your mail to you. Binh Khe was one of our district teams, along with Hoai Nhon, Hoai An, An Khe, Phu Cat, Phu My, An Tuc, and Tuy Phuoc.

  17. Does anyone remember my father Maj. Walter Washington, District Sen. Advisor 68-69, Phu My District, Binh Dinh province? Any information would be appreciated.

  18. Cpt StringerCpt. Ron Sheperd Must have been lost on the day left the team…Im sure of his name(Ron) we were over run 05-02-03-68.We had a new senior advisor, Ron was running the defense as i said we just got a new senior advisor and the sappers knew that.At day break he and i swept and met up with 41st.civial affairs Lt.can,t rember his name.He had put together an M60 over the roof he and 2 other 41st.caught them in the wire and most likely kept the larger force out..but lostLt.Sovisel and SFC. Williams.The 41st. Lt.was a slinder build wore glasses..1SGt Dick Maldando will know.Ron and i operated with RF/PF. many times. i remember so well he and i just sat down and could’nt believe the lose of 2 of our own.Maj. John Drew senior adv.had left about 2 weeks prior.I will get in touch with Dick Maldanado and let you know.Maj.Washington replaced him on DEROS.

  19. I was infantry advisor Team 27 Phu My SFC Ben Hasley medic retired CMSG. Dick Maldonoda 1st.Sgt.we stay in touch to this day…I would give anything to find the gunship,Blitz Creg 27..we found 2 bn. NVA 14th 15th dec 67.somehow we were point..fight went on for two days.Battle of Trung Xuan,My Chan.this old gunship saved our ass and i would kiss his in main st.I ask for fire at 100 meters,280* grape smoke..he was shot to hell but would,nt break off as i told him to.Said rounds were comming throug like fire flies.

  20. Members of Team 27: I was not with Advisory Team 27 but was a District Senior Advisor with Advisory Team 32 out of Gia Nigha, Quang Duc Province. CPT Ronald W Shepard was with Team 27 and was a good college buddy of mine. Unfortunately he was KIA on 5/09/68 in Binh Dinh Province. Does anybody remember him and what happened to him? Would appreciate any information.

    • Hello Dale. I researched the DOD casualty reporting system regarding your question about CPT Ronald W. Shepard. Information available does state he was killed in Binh Dinh Province but at the time he was serving with Advisory Team 52, not 27, according to their records. Hope this helps. If you Google search “Vietnam casualty list” you will eventually get to the site with all the details about him.

    • Jerrol,

      Phu My is one of many, including a district in Viet Nam. You probably mean town (Thành Phố) Phù Mỹ in Binh Dinh Province, 54km north of Quy Nhơn. A village (Ap) Phú Mỹ is across the bay from Vũng Tàu (China Beach) near the city we called Sài Gòn.

      Sp5 Thomas Hyde
      Translator/Interpreter
      41st Civil Affairs Team 4
      Song Mao 1968-69
      learncad@mchsi.com

      • Hey Tom, yes i remember you well..the arvns were blown away with your knowledge and translation ability.Dick Hall TM 27 67-Apr 68.Great Job.

      • Oops, it was another Phu Cat in III Corps! Lol. The II Corps Phu Cat mentioned… we drove through it a few times in our rickety ole jeep…before sappers were around. After I ETS’d in Apr 68 I heard the war got really serious, I guess Tet touched it off.

        CWO Frank Brisker was an army slick pilot in Qui Nhon, worked with SF and Airborne Inf, his first month in country involved Tet, what a break in! I know Frank from grade school, small world. We stay in touch, he still flies a restored Huey, air rescue and air shows. Unfortunately he and I didn’t know we were neighbors in Qui Nhon. The MACV billeting compound on the beach by the way guys was one of the assasinated ex pres. Diem’s wife, aka Madam Nhu’s resorts, ahem…brothels. Oh, good to know we slept in a cat house for our tour, eh? Lol-

  21. I was with team 27 from June 67 to June 68I would train the RF & PF by going out in the field to small villages to look for VC. They were not very good soldiers.

  22. I WAS WITH TEAM 27 PHU MY APR 67-68.IHREE OF US STAY IN TOUCH..LOTS OF QUESTIONS,WE WERE OVER RUN ,,SAPPERS 2 & 3 APR 68.2 US KIA ATCH. FROM 41 ST. CIV.AFRS. WE FOUGHT OUR ASSES OFF TO STAY ALIVE.NO HELP FROM THE ARVNS.INSIDE JOB.LZ. UPLIFT FEW MILES NORTH FIRED SOME ALUM. I DERSO.10 APR.ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING…SAPPERS LEFT BEHIND 19 KIA.3 10 FT FROM ME,COULD’NT MISS….DONT LOOK FOR AFTER ACTION,,IT NEVER HAPPENED AS FOR ANY RECORDS….WASHINGTON YOU FUCKED UP.SIN LOIA. TRUNG SI R. HALL

    • I was at LZ orange from Nov. 1967 to june of 69. yes I think we were Team 27 then changed to Team II-44 (MAT II-44). I was the RTO at LZ orange. See more info at
      George Benedict

      • my name is tom lamb iwas on tm 42 from feb 1969to feb 1970 after our team was assembled we moved to hoi an district we were at the 5th s.f. camp called lz pony I believe district lz was named orange the conversion was to replace the cidg with arvn ‘I was ther for a couple of months then I was assigned to mat tm 27’ I am also not sure of team numbers .I know my orders said adv 42 …. after the conversion I was supposed to move with maj garret to lz orange apparently my slot had already been filled so nats. mats for me

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