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MACV Team 58 – Vi Thanh

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  1. July 13, 2015 5:50 am

    Will do Mike-3pm. terry

  2. July 12, 2015 3:43 pm

    Mike, Sorry I made mistakes I did not mean. I am on some pills that make changes.

    I recommend you look up: (1)TM 20, 21s ARVN Div Hq, Bac Lieu (Delta) Div Hq assigned(31 and 33 ARVN Regiments and Rnr Bn) . TM 58, Choung Province (Nick an I were in Vi Thanh same time; TM 59, An Xuyven Province (below Vi Thanh); TM 73 in Vi Thanh, Choung Thien Province -formed after TM 58 was deactivated;
    This may give you some leads on what you need.

    I will call you soon, maybe tomorrow, and I can make more sense. Let me know when is good time.

    Did you get a copy of Nick’s full data sheet? Terry

  3. July 11, 2015 6:14 am

    Comment: Awaiting Moderation

    • July 11, 2015 6:33 am

      I want to correct two words I used a 15 June 2015 comment. There is a definite need to correct those word used in two places. Those words were “Bros” and “Bro”. They must be changed as soon as possible.
      First, I used “Bros” toward the last part of the text to describe how I got information sheets on those that were killed in VN (Data Sheets commonly available in the 1990s). This word must be changed to “Brothers”. They sacrificed their lives in valor for their country. They were truly Brothers and need to be so honored.
      Second, I closed the comment with “Bro”. Delete this word totally

      • July 12, 2015 7:18 am

        Ops, TRM made a mistake on comment date referred to–comment date was 19 Jun 2015-not 15 Jun 2015. Some other typo dates, but the one just mention is essential. Also, I was gathering data on soldiers KIA that I knew or knew of.

      • Michael Kevin Murphy permalink
        July 12, 2015 12:12 pm

        Terry,

        I just got around to reading your last 7 posts. It’s been very busy here at the office and it took me longer than I expected.

        Thanks for the information on the Virtual Wall. I understand now from you and that web link that CPT Denis Nicholas was killed somewhere in South Vietnam’s Chuong Thien Province and provided some other details.

        His Silver Star citation should give me additional details about his death and I’ll keep on the hunt for that.

        I’m now trying to locate any officers of the 31st Infantry Reg’t. (also, I am assuming that this is ARVN 31st Infantry Reg’t., not the US 31st Infantry Reg’t. Am I correct about that?) who may have participated in donating the cadet sword to the Virginia Military Institute to be carried by a cadet officer during the Alumni Parade because I have now located that sword in the VMI museum; apparently, the sword was only carried a few times in the Alumni Parade before the tradition had been lost. I want to resurrect it!

        Look at the photo at the bottom of the attached link to CPT Nicholas page on the Virtual Wall for the story of the sword.

        http://www.virtualwall.org/dn/NicholasDx01a.htm

        Terry, can you or someone else in the “Team 58 Vi Thanh” group help me find some of the officers of the 31st Infantry Reg’t. who I might contact for more information and help in restoring the tradition at VMI of someone carrying the sword at a parade?

        Call me anytime, too, at a number given below.

        V/r

        Mike

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        Terry Montei commented: “Ops, TRM made a mistake on comment date referred to–comment date was 19 Jun 2015-not 15 Jun 2015. Some other typo dates, but the one just mention is essential. Also, I was gathering data on soldiers KIA that I knew or knew of.”

  4. Mike Murphy permalink
    June 19, 2015 9:17 am

    Terry, thank you so much. Is there anyway for me to locate any of his close Team members too? Many thanks again.

    • Terry Montei permalink
      July 5, 2015 7:33 am

      Mike, Have you been able to get the Personnel Sheet on Dennis. If available, it covers almost all on him. I got them from http://www.no-quarter.org/cig-bin/details.cig. Got them in 1995, but they may not be available anymore on the net. I should have told about my source. Perhaps this data is available on the info sent to you some time ago from US Achieves. I think you have most everything on him-but this sheet is complete.
      I do not have a sheet on Dennis, unfortunately. This sheet would tell you where he was killed on 15 Jan 67 (the Province). I have tried to remember the province. I do not think is was Choung Thien. The VN 33 Regiment operated in other provinces in the lower Delta. His replacement may know. terry

    • Terry Montei permalink
      July 5, 2015 8:25 am

      Mike, I made a mistake to you in the past on Denis. Got the Virtual Was sheet from Fl. generated on him. Denis was killed in Chuong Thien Province–which I stated to you in a email before this e-mail. Bad memory on my part. Terry

  5. Trinh Le permalink
    June 15, 2015 12:18 pm

    Trinh Le
    Mike Wilson, I was in Kien Long 67-70, you were youngest in team?.sorry I don’t remember you were wounded ?, do you remember Rocket connect got hit VC mortar and explored right on way get in administration district, MacV compound was collapsed in 1968, You bough the snake from Vietnamese solder and snake bite your finger then you killed him? I forgot Senor Advisory Major’s name? if you recall something please let me know!.

  6. Trinh Le permalink
    June 13, 2015 7:13 pm

    Trinh Le
    June 13, 2015
    le_trinh1967@yahoo.com

    Hi Terry M.
    My name Trinh Le who was the Interpreter of Kien Long district Mac V team from 1967 -1970
    I remembered I reported you duty on 1967 ?. District chief that time was captain SU and after he left Major Dung came, 1968 District ‘s rocket connect got hit by VC mortar and explored destroyed all compound building. I escaped out Viet Nam by boat 1979 and came Texas Jan/1980 and now living at Fort Worth Texas. I would like my name on the team list. and would like to contact all partners of team year 67-70

    • terry montei permalink
      June 15, 2015 7:01 am

      Trinh Le, I was in Vi Thanh the years 1966-1967. Visited Kien Long on several occasions. I do not remember your name, but you should be able to make a team list (Districts part of TM 58 at that time) if you sign up. The VN soldiers and you were hard soldiers and did their job well. Maybe you can sign up to get messages. Terry Montei, Cpt, Vi Thanh, Mekong Delta.

    • John S. Raschke permalink
      July 1, 2015 10:40 pm

      Trinh Le, Some of the Americans you served with at Kien Long were: CPT Al Bundons (deceased), LT Al Miller (deceased), SFC Hershel Dick*, LT Geoff Lanning*, SP4 Don Dennison, SSG Harry Dwyer (deceased), MAJ Dave Hughes, LT Paul Kronheim*, SFC Harry Palmer, SP4 James Whaley*, and SP4 Mike Wilson*. I have contact information on those starred (*) names. Although I served in Vi Thanh from July 1969 to June 1970, I spent a week down at Kien Long in August 69 when I was sent down to repair the damage to the airfield caused by mortar or recoilless rifle fire.

      Remember, that the US Advisory teams in Chuong Thien Province were Team 58 from about 1965 to September 1968, after which time it was renamed Advisory Team 73.

      I have the names of approximately 425 military (mostly US, but several ARVN-mostly interpreters) and civilians who served in Chuong Thien Province. If you would like a copy of the list, please let me know.

      Our advisory group has held four reunions so far, and are planning one for next year (2016) in Washington, DC. I would enjoy talking to you and you can call me at 217.553.4498 .

      John S. Raschke

      • Trinh Le permalink
        July 2, 2015 8:21 am

        Hi John
        Thank you very much to let’s me know the information about Kien Long’s Macv team 58, yes I would like to have a copy of the list I may find all my friends these was not contacted after 1970.
        best regards. Trinh Le .

  7. January 25, 2015 7:47 am

    Wireskinner. May have sent msg. to wrong guy. terry

  8. January 25, 2015 7:43 am

    I was at Choung Thien from Oct 66-Oct 67. As I said in previous msg., I was at Kien Long several times, remember a US Major (unk, District Chief; I was a Cpt at the time), and vaguely remember some action there–but can not place names or cbt actions of any significance. The Major (if you remember him) and Cpt you remember may help you to prove your case w/VA. Good Luck. t

  9. January 21, 2015 6:53 am

    I just re-read your comment. When were you at Kien Thien District? The 68 could be in 1968 or the District Number at that time. Different time frame. Sometime paperwork is available to make your case.

    • wireskinner2574 permalink
      January 24, 2015 5:46 pm

      This was a patch we had in 1967 – 1968

      Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

  10. January 20, 2015 4:43 pm

    Sorry, I left CT in 1967 (oct). I was there from Oct 66 to Oct 67. I was familiar w/Kien Long–but out of my time zone. I do remember a Maj down there in my times. Good lusk. tmontei

  11. mike wilson permalink
    January 20, 2015 4:17 pm

    my paperwork says I was assigned to team 58
    I was in kien long 68
    does anybody know anybody or anything about kien long
    I was wounded by a mortar
    the major put me in for a purple heart
    I recieved it lost paper work
    does not show up on dd 214
    I need it for va hospital
    the only person I remember is
    captain Edward ( ted ) Alling

  12. TommyHighnote permalink
    September 25, 2014 7:58 am

    Beware There was a Mats Team 58 in V thanh 1971-1972 A 2 man team 1 officer and 1 nco , with 5 Viets takeing the place of the American Mats !

  13. Henry Ray Kelly permalink
    September 22, 2014 10:49 pm

    Was supply sgt from aug 67 till aug 68

  14. Karl Bitel permalink
    August 10, 2014 10:34 am

    John, please add me to your Advisory Team 58 contact list. Karl Bitel at kbbsquare@aol.com

  15. John S. Raschke permalink
    August 6, 2014 10:55 pm

    Karl Bitel and Don Sullivan,

    i have an extensive list of names (~430) and in some cases contact information on military and civilian personnel who served in Chuong Thien Province throughout MAAG/MACV’s involvement in the advisory effort. If you are interested in being added to the list, please contact me by e-mail. We are having an advisory team reunion this comiing November (2014) in Las Vegas..

    • Karl Bitel permalink
      September 23, 2014 8:32 am

      John Raschke, is there any information available regarding the November team reunion?

      • Ray permalink
        September 23, 2014 11:36 am

        John please enter my name to advisory team 58 Ray Kelly wireskinner2574@embarqmail .com

        Sent from my iPhone

        >

  16. Terry Montei permalink
    April 8, 2014 7:47 am

    Mike, I do not know if he is alive or dead. I checked Counterparts, an organization of advisors of which I am a member, for his name. No luck. There were/was a Sgt or 2 also on the Regmt team. Forgot their names.
    Tough to loose a brother. montei

  17. Mike Murphy permalink
    April 7, 2014 7:05 pm

    Don, thank you so much. I have wondered for over 45 years how Denny died. He was like a big brother to me at VMI. Do you know where the records for MACV Team 58 might be located now?

    Mike Murphy

  18. April 7, 2014 3:36 pm

    An attempt to clear up Tm 58 some (maybe absolutely wrong but relatively correct). This Tm became Tm 73 sometime after I left in Oct 67.
    This team was formed abt 1964 out of 3-4 other provinces in the middle center of the Mekong Delta–and designated Choung Thien Province. This was to improve command and control.
    The VN/NVA never accecpted its provincal designation. ViThanh was the capitol–a rather primative town. Sub districts were Duc Long, Kien Long, Kien Thien, Long My-best estimate here. It was, by definition, the most insecure province in VN when I was there. Not much
    pacification outside of the lines of communication (a road and canals).
    Some key personnel–The Desert Fox, MG Robert Wagner; MG Hoisington–his sister, Elizabeth, was the first female GO not medical branch; LTC Lones Wigger (known as The Farmer)–perhaps the best small bore rifle shooter in US history (Pan Am games and Olympics)-ranks are highest I know, at the time Wagner was a Major, Hosiington a LTC; and Wigger a Cpt.
    Hopes this helps out.

  19. April 7, 2014 2:19 pm

    mike murphy,cap nicholas was killed during an operation in mid 67. his unit made contact and was under fire when he rose up on one knee to asess the situation and was shot in the head. that was the report we received at the compound.don sullivan vi thanh 12/66-8/67

  20. Karl Bitel permalink
    March 16, 2014 10:44 am

    Hi Terry, I was in Vi Thant from 16 Dec 1965 to 25 Feb 1967. Part of that time I was based in Duc Long. I am the tall E-5 who was the Communications NCOIC for Advisory Team 58. I used to hang around the big radio bunker next to the mail room.

    Karl Bitel

  21. terry permalink
    March 16, 2014 9:25 am

    I am Terry Montei. I served in Advisory Team 58 from Nov 1966-Oct 1967. I was in Choung Thein Province, Vi Thanh. I knew Cpt Denis Nicholas who was an infantry advisor to the 31 Arvn Inf Reg, 21st Inf Div. He was killed on 15 Jan 67 in an operation that began in Vi Thanh but I am not sure where he was killed. Vi Thanh was in the most insecure province in VN. Denis worked for a Maj Murphy, who was the Sr Advisor to the Reg.

    • Mike Murphy permalink
      April 7, 2014 7:03 pm

      Terry, much thanks. Is Major Murphy still alive. Know how ot get in touch with him?

      Best,

      Mike Murphy

    • July 4, 2014 4:47 pm

      Thank you Terry.

    • terry montei permalink
      June 15, 2015 12:30 pm

      Mike, I did know Denis. I passed this on above some time ago. As far a Major Murphy, the 33 reg infantry advisor, I do believe he did not get killed in VT cc 1967. He may have lived through the war however. Terry Montei

  22. Glenn Knudsen permalink
    February 27, 2014 1:11 pm

    I arrived at MAC-V Advisory team 58 in in Vin Phouc Vietnam 3/1967 and left about 10 days after the Tet offensive started in 1/30/1968. I served with SFC Les Haley, Sgt Bright Cpt. Newman, Major Wilfong (SP?) and Col Wright. I know there were other, but my memory is not that great so the names may not be spelled correct. I lost touch with all the fine soldiers I served with and under. It was a privilege to serve with these fine men. They made a huge impact on my life that I will be eternally grateful for the value they added to my life. Too bad the public didn’t understand all we were doing for them as they are now showing appreciation for the VETS returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

  23. Karl Bitel permalink
    February 14, 2014 7:55 pm

    Mike, the name Jim Waters is somewhat familar. I didn’t really know him, but I think I remember the name as someone who was an advisor to a unit of the ARVN 21st Inf Div who had passed through Vi Thant.

  24. Karl Bitel permalink
    February 14, 2014 7:19 pm

    I was with MACV Advisory Team 58 in Jan 1967 based in Vi Thanh in the Mekong Delta. I do not recall a Denis Nicholas nor do I recall any member of the team dying in the early part of 1967. I came home in Feb 1967.

    • Michael Kevin Murphy permalink
      February 14, 2014 7:27 pm

      Thanks brother. Denis would have been killed in 1965-66. You know Ranger Jim Waters, an E-6, maybe then?

      Mike

      *From:* MACV Teams [mailto:comment-reply@wordpress.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2014 6:20 PM *To:* mkmurph@mkmlaw.com *Subject:* [New comment] Team 58

      Karl Bitel commented: “I was with MACV Advisory Team 58 in Jan 1967 based in Vi Thanh in the Mekong Delta. I do not recall a Denis Nicholas nor do I recall any member of the team dying in the early part of 1967. I came home in Feb 1967.”

  25. July 4, 2013 12:25 pm

    Does anyone have information about MACV Advisory Team 58; I’m looking for details of a close friend’s death by small arms fire on January 15, 1967 while serving with that team. My friend’s name is CPT Denis Nicholas? I’m Mike Murphy, VMI ’64. I served in RVN as an Infantry officer with the 199th LIB 1967-1968. Denis was a 1st Classman at VMI when I was a “Rat” and was like a brother.

    • terry montei permalink
      June 19, 2015 6:24 am

      Mike, this is TM. I remember one event that involved Denis—it may have been the one in which he was killed.
      Maj Murphy, an NCO, and Denis were drawing up a Op Plan for the next days battle. It was being staged out of Vi Thanh. Thinking back, it may have been the day before he was killed. I will check the net and see if I can find out where he was killed. Would have been in the Delta area of provinces.

    • frank bauer permalink
      June 30, 2015 12:34 pm

      He was definitely killed on or about that date, as I was his replacement and I arrived around January 20, 1967 — his personal effects were still being sorted. He was awarded the Silver Star, I believe.

  26. Terry Montei permalink
    July 5, 2015 6:25 pm

    Mike, I believe you are a lawyer. Why is comment above “Awaiting Moderation?” If you know, I would like to know. terry Note: I live in Prince George, County, VA, email address is: tmontei@msn.com I just noticed the comment this morning.

  27. Terry Montei permalink
    July 6, 2015 3:37 pm

    Mike, I have reviewed the text of 19 Jun.
    I apologize for two words “Bro” used at the end of the text. The word “Brothers” is the proper word. It is much more meaningful and thoughtful of our Brothers that gave so much to this country. I used it poorly as a reference for me also.

    I do not know if someone else in the MACV organization is correcting the text or not. Could not determine how this was to happen considering the words “awaiting moderation”. I saw nothing wrong with the remainder of the text. I could NOT make the word correction.

    Call me if you like. 804-458-7115 LL; 804-586-2404 Cell

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